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Happy 4th!

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Jul 04, 2013 at 01:54 PM
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There are times I get dizzy just watching.

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Jul 04, 2013 at 02:21 PM
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Happy 4th Campers have a great day



Jul 04, 2013 at 04:45 PM
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Figured I'd slip this in before Jeff comes along and blows it up...

We have four MAFFS-equipped C-130s in town to assist with the wildfire issues up north. Two are J models from the CA ANG and two are H models from a Colorado-based AFR unit.


Only one image from me Jay. The remainder with an upcoming article I'm writing on the MAFFS-equipped 130's and their use in wildfire suppression. It was a very hot time on the ramp for me. I have a better appreciation for the folks that work these areas every day - tough duty for sure.

HAPPY 4TH EVERYONE




Jul 04, 2013 at 05:01 PM
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Happy 4th July from across the pond!

This is an F-86 Sabre I photographed on Sunday at The Shuttleworth Collection here in England.
Apparently the Sabre was the first operational Allied swept-wing jet aircraft and this one has the markings used by the USAF during the Korean War.

Tony



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Jul 04, 2013 at 09:17 PM
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Happy 4th July from across the pond!

This is an F-86 Sabre I photographed on Sunday at The Shuttleworth Collection here in England.
Apparently the Sabre was the first operational Allied swept-wing jet aircraft and this one has the markings used by the USAF during the Korean War.

Tony


Nice one Tony, love those Sabres



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Happy 4th everyone, stay safe out there







Jul 04, 2013 at 09:57 PM
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Happy 4th everyone, stay safe out there


The angle of the rudder and the angle the shot was taken from makes for a neat optical illusion.
The visible part of the rudder makies it look impossibly small. I had to look several times to see why.



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All the taildragger models I've had and seen had tailwheel steering. This AT6 obviously doesn't; is that the norm for full-scale taildraggers?


Jul 05, 2013 at 02:07 AM
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I had the honor and privilege of meeting Harry Palmer (Kingfishphoto) this evening and taking him on a quick tour of base, then a quick tour around town in search of a restaurant that was open. My first choice of a restaurant was closed for the 4th, but the second one I was heading for, said on their web site that the 4th was a holiday they were open. Hmm.. someone forgot to tell the crew, they were closed up tight when we got there. So, we headed downtown and went to the oldest running tavern in Dayton.

You guys in AZ (Jeff, Jay) are lucky that he's heading your way, definitely make time to meet up with him.

PS, I have to admit, it was odd getting the salute from the SP at the gate, till I remembered Harry's rank



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Ernie Aubert wrote:
All the taildragger models I've had and seen had tailwheel steering. This AT6 obviously doesn't; is that the norm for full-scale taildraggers?



Hi Ernie,

The Six has a locking tailwheel, not steerable per se. Actually it allows you to pivot in some pretty tight conditions that a steerable tailwheel won't. The pilot "steers" with differential braking. Pulling the stick back pat neutral locks the tailwheel in a straight configuration. When you want to unlock it, you add a little power and roll slightly to take the tension off the tailwheel, as you do that, you pop the stick forward of neutral and it unlocks, castoring free 360 degrees. Done properly you can spin that big bird on a dime and stop it just where you want it. You had better understand the system though, because you can also send yourself into the weeds in a hurry. 51's have the same system by and large, with a lot more mass swinging out in front and a lot more power. Handling all this becomes instinctive after a few hours, you don't even think about it. On take off the tailwheel is locked straight until you pop the stick forward to raise the tail. In landing you have a 360 castoring tailwheel until you bring the stick into your lap. Three points that happens right away, wheel landings, not til you've slowed enough that the tail is coming down and you firmly plant that little wheel on the ground. Until you lock it, it's all controlled by power and brakes, and stuff can happen faster than one can imagine.


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How nice Laura! And isn't that what we are all about?! Well done!


Jul 05, 2013 at 04:31 AM
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Headed out at dawn to shoot Bryan tossing himself out of a perfectly good airplane. No, I don't feel the least bit tempted to join him.............


Jul 05, 2013 at 04:32 AM
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JDE1 wrote:
Not from Dayton, but from "The Brat III" visit to KPDK shortly before Dayton. The challenge was getting a shot when the airplane WASN'T being hand-polished or otherwise cleaned.

Jerry



Jerry, looks great, thank you. Chuck is big on keeping her clean and polished....

Lynn



Jul 05, 2013 at 04:36 AM
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Headed out at dawn to shoot Bryan tossing himself out of a perfectly good airplane. No, I don't feel the least bit tempted to join him.............



Ya know, I own a parachute that I never plan to pull the cord on....the only time it ever opens is for its 180 day repacks..and I like it that way!

Oops, TOP: one of our tow plans and its pilot hard at work...








Jul 05, 2013 at 05:00 AM
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Yikes... I appear to be about 70 pages behind.

Hope everyone's doing beautifully -- I'll find out what y'all have been up to as I get caught up -- and blue skies to all of you.

I'm delighted to report that I've managed to twist my schedule into attending Alliance. I'll fly out from San Diego at oh-dark-thirty on Saturday morning and should be at KAFW by about 1400h. Hopefully I catch the tail end of the airshow, plus I'm on-site if there happens to be an air-to-air mission scheduled for Saturday's sunset. Then I'll stick around for Sunday, and I'll fly on to Miami on Monday morning (again at oh-dark-thirty).

Brutal schedule, but I couldn't not go, ya know?

Happy Birthday to the United States!



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Thanks for the explanation, Jim. Differential brakes - of course; nothing that sophisticated on models, so it hadn't occurred to me, even though I know about it.


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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Hi Ernie,

The Six has a locking tailwheel, not steerable per se. Actually it allows you to pivot in some pretty tight conditions that a steerable tailwheel won't. The pilot "steers" with differential braking. Pulling the stick back pat neutral locks the tailwheel in a straight configuration. When you want to unlock it, you add a little power and roll slightly to take the tension off the tailwheel, as you do that, you pop the stick forward of neutral and it unlocks, castoring free 360 degrees. Done properly you can spin that big bird on a dime and stop it just
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When the Tailwheel is locked, it's not completely locked, you still get 15 degrees of swivel out of it.

If you watch the upper right hand video on this, you can see the stick go all the way forward, and how much my feet move to "catch" the mass as it swings around unlocked. It's rare you use the brakes though, unless you really got behind the eight ball, or you want an extremely tight turn.

http://youtu.be/QnGCw10Dl68

Chris




Jul 05, 2013 at 02:25 PM
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Lynn wrote:

>>Jerry, looks great, thank you. Chuck is big on keeping her clean and polished....

Lynn,

That was clear.

We had two P51s, an SBD, a T6, and a C45 here with "FIFI." The only one that spent the night in a hanger was "The Brat III."

Jerry



Jul 05, 2013 at 05:26 PM
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Thanks Jim, we toured the museum this morning, and Harry told lots of stories about the different aircraft. I definitely enjoyed the time, and was sad when he had to leave. He's probably now just getting to the Ohio/Indiana border with a planned stop in Indianapolis tonight.

For Harry, as promised, the photo I was talking about:

JWilsonphoto wrote:
How nice Laura! And isn't that what we are all about?! Well done!





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