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p.3679 #1 · p.3679 #1 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Adding to the full-disk tutorial:

1. Radial engines turn slower than other engines, whether piston or turbine.
2. The more prop blades, the easier it is to get a full disk (T-6 engines swing only a two-blade prop, while a P-47 engine, which turns at similar rpm's, has a four-blade prop).
3. Takeoff is easier than landing or a photo pass (because engine rpm is higher).
4. Shooting with the sun behind you (or at least on your side of the subject) makes the prop disk more visible; c.f. Glenn's splendid example at the top of this page.
5. If you want a full disk of a helicopter's rotor, better start at 1/15 sec and work down from there. Oh, and see #2, above.







Feb 03, 2014 at 02:58 PM
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p.3679 #2 · p.3679 #2 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


And there you have an example of the best of the best in this neighborhood, posting the ultimate challenge full disc.

Does my dusk shot of the Encore Wire manufacturing facility, at 1/8th and 1/15th air to ground set any records? I don't believe that I have ever shot slower than that in that situation. Keeper rate dropped precipitously, but there were keepers, ones that went to 24 x 30" and now hang in the lobby.




Feb 03, 2014 at 05:13 PM
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p.3679 #3 · p.3679 #3 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Shooting a home today. Almost blew it off because of the overcast and gloom and doom forecast. Turns out the light is perfect for interiors and I already have five in the can. You just never know.

Eddie Ray, sometime you should come up and spend the day with me when I'm shooting this kind of stuff. I know you love shooting your beautiful new home, you could probably teach me something.



Feb 03, 2014 at 05:17 PM
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p.3679 #4 · p.3679 #4 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I don't think you want to learn any bad habits!

We are in the process of working with the project manager I hired to begin Phase II, the final addition to the farm house. Work will probably begin late this month or March. Susan and I are very excited to have it completed.




Feb 03, 2014 at 05:43 PM
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p.3679 #5 · p.3679 #5 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


That is exciting Wrei! I look forward to seeing the progress.

A comfortable study on a cold North Texas day..................







Feb 03, 2014 at 06:38 PM
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p.3679 #6 · p.3679 #6 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


If Sheila and I ever do change addresses, these folks will probably build the new one..............







Feb 03, 2014 at 06:40 PM
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p.3679 #7 · p.3679 #7 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


It's all about "The Familia".....................







Feb 03, 2014 at 06:41 PM
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p.3679 #8 · p.3679 #8 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


They built the home we are in, seventeen years ago.







Feb 03, 2014 at 06:46 PM
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p.3679 #9 · p.3679 #9 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Full disc is fine for air to air. Ground to air, for me, I want something I can use that is sharp. 1/125 to 1/250, or 1/320 for aero acts or F1's which spin the crap out of their props. I would hate to spend 10 days in Reno trying to shoot full discs. All I would have is a bunch of junk.

1/160 here.







Feb 03, 2014 at 06:55 PM
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p.3679 #10 · p.3679 #10 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Sweet shot, Tim.


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p.3679 #11 · p.3679 #11 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Beautiful interiors as well, Jim.


Feb 03, 2014 at 07:02 PM
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p.3679 #12 · p.3679 #12 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Tim Adams wrote:
Full disc is fine for air to air. Ground to air, for me, I want something I can use that is sharp. 1/125 to 1/250, or 1/320 for aero acts or F1's which spin the crap out of their props. I would hate to spend 10 days in Reno trying to shoot full discs. All I would have is a bunch of junk.

1/160 here.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/84/863484.jpg


And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that!



Feb 03, 2014 at 07:02 PM
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p.3679 #13 · p.3679 #13 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Beautiful Jim, awesome interiors!



Feb 03, 2014 at 07:14 PM
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p.3679 #14 · p.3679 #14 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Those are some excellent examples guys! I haven't had a chance to try helicopters, but I think I know how that will end up...in frustration. Haha!

I'm bookmarking all of these full prop spin highlights for the next air show.

Tim, was that taken at the (recent?) Reno air races? Such a sleek profile of that racer in that photo. Fantastic!



Feb 03, 2014 at 07:24 PM
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p.3679 #15 · p.3679 #15 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Helicopters? Just use the surrounding mist to give you that soft focus look.

1/40th with a six blade main rotor...I don't know what it would take to get a full rotor on these...but some quick math tells me about 1/15th or so.











Feb 03, 2014 at 07:33 PM
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p.3679 #16 · p.3679 #16 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Alpha_Geist wrote:
Those are some excellent examples guys! I haven't had a chance to try helicopters, but I think I know how that will end up...in frustration. Haha!

I'm bookmarking all of these full prop spin highlights for the next air show.

Tim, was that taken at the (recent?) Reno air races? Such a sleek profile of that racer in that photo. Fantastic!


Yes it was this past year. It was the first test flight after they had blown the canopy to bits early in the week.



Feb 03, 2014 at 08:09 PM
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p.3679 #17 · p.3679 #17 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Arty Farty Mustang




  Canon EOS 5D Mark II    EF24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens    70mm    f/7.1    1/80s    50 ISO    -0.7 EV  




Feb 03, 2014 at 08:30 PM
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p.3679 #18 · p.3679 #18 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


There is a DC-7 on the ramp at Coolidge, AZ that's being restored to airworthy condition and I managed to squeeze out a few angles during the February breakfast fly in...

12-shot stitched pano:


100% Crop from pano (it's got a little detail to it)


Remnants of the aft lounge:


Panel up front:


"1 of 4"


Word is she may fly by the fall...



Feb 03, 2014 at 08:54 PM
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p.3679 #19 · p.3679 #19 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


stevez wrote:
Adding to the full-disk tutorial:

1. Radial engines turn slower than other engines, whether piston or turbine.
2. The more prop blades, the easier it is to get a full disk (T-6 engines swing only a two-blade prop, while a P-47 engine, which turns at similar rpm's, has a four-blade prop).
3. Takeoff is easier than landing or a photo pass (because engine rpm is higher).
4. Shooting with the sun behind you (or at least on your side of the subject) makes the prop disk more visible; c.f. Glenn's splendid example at the top of this page.
5. If you want a
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I would throw a caveat on #1 regarding radials: Gear Reduction or Direct Drive?



Feb 03, 2014 at 08:56 PM
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p.3679 #20 · p.3679 #20 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Wow! That's a project!


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