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A random question from a newbie to this... are there any legal/responsibility concerns to photographing military aircraft from outside base fences? I very close to MCAS Miramar, and would love to know if it's OK for me to go and shoot photos of the F/A-18s coming in almost every night


Jan 16, 2014 at 12:38 AM
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seattlebruin wrote:
A random question from a newbie to this... are there any legal/responsibility concerns to photographing military aircraft from outside base fences? I very close to MCAS Miramar, and would love to know if it's OK for me to go and shoot photos of the F/A-18s coming in almost every night


Generally Speaking (and every base has a different vibe .. Miramar is known to be a little hard-assed at times), so long as you make it abundantly obvious that you are pointing your lens AWAY from the fence and capturing landing aircraft, and you stick to locations where photographers are known to congregate, you usually won't have any issues. Be obvious and don't appear to be "slinking" around the fence line. You can "peek" on base, but avoid letting your lens linger pointed inside the fence.

It also depends on what is going on, on base. When they're in the middle of an exercise (which can often bring in out of town guests), bases tend to be a little more sensitive. Even if the local guys are used to you, Squadron CO's and such from out of town may not like having their birds photographed. It also depends on whether or not there's a regular pattern of having photographers around. Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson, knows where we usually hang out and we stick to a pretty strict protocol about not lingering on the elevated spot we use. We walk up, shoot a plane or two and then walk back down below the top of the berm. Tucson International (AZ ANG Base) knows we shoot from the cargo ramp parking lot but it took a couple years before the cops said "don't bother calling ahead anymore" and a little while longer before they just stopped coming around.

Are you familiar with APSoCal? The Aviation Photographers of Southern California are a VERY active group and they have all the local knowledge you could ever want.

http://www.apsocal.com/


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Jan 16, 2014 at 12:50 AM
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seattlebruin wrote:
A random question from a newbie to this... are there any legal/responsibility concerns to photographing military aircraft from outside base fences? I very close to MCAS Miramar, and would love to know if it's OK for me to go and shoot photos of the F/A-18s coming in almost every night


Probably not, in fact I have only seen local law enforcement hassle people outside fences. The military has jurisdiction within the fence.

Come on back and post your photos, love to see 'em!



Jan 16, 2014 at 12:50 AM
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Seattlebruin, welcome to our favorite place on the world wide web. Hang around and enjoy the photos and the discussions. There is a lot of knowledge here, and the only way to learn is to keep coming back and seeing what is being said and what is being shown.

Regards, Colin



Jan 16, 2014 at 01:00 AM
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p.3664 #5 · p.3664 #5 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Some round cowled thingy's from Coolidge...








Jan 16, 2014 at 01:30 AM
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Sincerest apologies Colin, for my part. I have been meaning to return to those, but have been distracted by the pace of this week. I appreciate your bringing them to my attention. I'm concerned that the generation being "raised" currently might lose the ability to actually communicate on a personal level. Try as I might with my Grandchildren, it's a very difficult tide to turn. On the subject of appreciation for all who have defended this wonderful nation, I beat that drum 24/7, and will every day I breath the air they have paid for. One of the reasons I so resent what is taking place in this country, is that I consider it an abject slap in the face to every man and woman who has put it on the line for all of us, we have an obligation to them.

Thanks for your fervor, I think I might have some welcome company in the dinosaur club.



Jan 16, 2014 at 02:22 AM
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p.3664 #7 · p.3664 #7 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


360 degree cockpit view of Voodoo, complete with a MAP guage that goes to 150 inches.

http://www.airspacemag.com/panorama/225183382.html



Jan 16, 2014 at 02:33 AM
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p.3664 #8 · p.3664 #8 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Jim, I believed that several members had probably watched the videos, but did not have the time to comment about them. I may have sounded harsh in my questioning if anyone saw them. For that, I apologize. I realize how fast this thread can move at times, and I know that we are all busy so I can see how a short sentence with a video link attached can be easily overlooked, especially since a lot of people do not like to click on a link when there is no background for what that link is about. That has been fixed. Thanks Lady Jo for telling me that I needed to tell what the videos were about. I will try to add more information about any video link that I include in my posts here and elsewhere.


Jan 16, 2014 at 04:44 AM
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I need to time my posts better. This is the third or fourth time that I started a new page, and I have nothing picture wise that I can post. I'll have to see if I can at least post something.


Jan 16, 2014 at 04:46 AM
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p.3664 #10 · p.3664 #10 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Here goes. This is Wilburn Mill, which is about 31 miles as the crow flies from our home. As the road curves, probably about 45 miles. I have no idea what this mill was used for. It does have a waterwheel, so I figure it powered some sort of machinery.
After doing a search, this is what I found out.

The Fall River Mill, located on Clear Creek in Southeastern Lawrence County, is a three story structure 36 ft. high which was erected in October 1898. In 1924 G.T. Wilburn purchased the mill where he ground both corn and wheat until 1942. Today the mill stands as a picturesque and interesting monument to a by gone era.






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p.3664 #11 · p.3664 #11 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


One more.







Jan 16, 2014 at 04:59 AM
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Tim Adams wrote:
360 degree cockpit view of Voodoo, complete with a MAP guage that goes to 150 inches.

http://www.airspacemag.com/panorama/225183382.html


Brother Lyle does amazing things with his 360 rig. He ha quite the thing going there... For good reason. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy,
Good on him!



Jan 16, 2014 at 05:05 AM
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p.3664 #13 · p.3664 #13 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


FlyingPhotog wrote:
The install routine should simply make them available under Filters in PS...


Nope. The other Nik filters are there. Except once in a while, Analog Efex does show up with the rest.

Intermittent problems are the worst.



Jan 16, 2014 at 05:25 AM
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p.3664 #14 · p.3664 #14 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I know why nobody ever says F/22 and be there!



Glenn



Jan 16, 2014 at 05:54 AM
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p.3664 #15 · p.3664 #15 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Geez Glenn, it looks like your image has been incorporated into the Lawrence Welk Show. Lots and lots of bubbles.


Jan 16, 2014 at 06:07 AM
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p.3664 #16 · p.3664 #16 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Just wait until its pitch black out to shoot - no dust spots on this one!



Glenn



Jan 16, 2014 at 07:11 AM
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Glenn



Jan 16, 2014 at 07:12 AM
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Glenn Watson wrote:

I know why nobody ever says F/22 and be there!

http://www.machpointoneaviation.com/img/s10/v101/p581091922.jpg


Glenn


Two words Glenn...

Neutral Density...



Jan 16, 2014 at 11:00 AM
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p.3664 #19 · p.3664 #19 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Glenn Watson wrote:
I know why nobody ever says F/22 and be there!

Glenn


Feel your pain!
Looks just like my 1Dx…AFTER EVERY SHOOT! grrrrrrrrr

.6ND is my friend!

But let me also say…fantastic pics! Love the V-tail!



Jan 16, 2014 at 03:17 PM
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p.3664 #20 · p.3664 #20 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Good idea guys - i keep forgetting about those. I need to bite the bullet and buy that vari-ND adjustable. Im just scared that it'll find its way to a position i dont want and wont notice and screw me up and I dont want to mess with screw on filters while flying. I'll just go get a kleenex now to dry my tears..

Glenn



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