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p.18 #1 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

I hope mine doesn't have any issues.

Mine came into the store here in the UK this morning. After numerous phone calls, e-mails and hours of deliberation and feeling sick I have bitten the bullit and parted with an incredibly large amount of cash for me!

It will be with me tomorrow afternoon and will get a thorough test at the weekend.

Update to follow in due course.

One sick feeling Simon.

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Aug 01, 2007 at 12:50 PM

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p.18 #2 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Been following this thread since the beginning. Got mine a week ago and no issues whatsoever. My sense is that there haven't been any recent deliveries with THE AF "Issue". Any suggestions to the contrary?

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Aug 01, 2007 at 01:08 PM

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p.18 #3 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

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Nil

What .... ? Does this mean your not getting your Mark 3 soon? I have been waiting for you to get your 1DMark 3. I always love your soccer shots and was really looking forward to hearing about your experimenting with the settings. Also I wanted to see how you resolve which lens on which body.

Oh well. Your timing is so good the 3 fps will be enough for you.

No not at all. I've intended to get a 1DsMkII all along as companion to the III, but was hoping to wait at least till later in the fall, thinking maybe the used price on them would drop some more when the 1DsMkIII is announced. But with my Mark III still not here and football season fast approaching I got nervous about having nothing left in the bag except the 400D, so I went ahead and grabbed one.

My III order has been pending since May with "the vendor who shall not be named," on a special price that's still good enough for me to continue waiting for, for at least a while longer.

And thanks for the kind words, but my timing's definitely not what it used to be. I was fishing dry flies in Montana last week, and I bet I missed fifty fish. :-(

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p.18 #4 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Gentleman;

can you confirm the same issue like in other forums (POTN & Naturascapes) about the new firmware 1.1.0 ?? The number of keepers has increased using the Ring of Fire in detriment of the Center Focus AF point, in other words, Center AF only is delivering a bigger amount of OOF than with vers. 1.0.9

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3643441#post3643441 from here on ...

http://www.naturescapes.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=107652

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p.18 #5 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

So what's the story so far?
I read almost all of this thread and try to summarize things to see if I've got the right picture.
Facts:
1) Some (half?) of the 1DmkIII's have problems with the AF (AI-Servo)
2) The problem is independent of serial numbers
3) Two firmware updates have been brought out (1.0.9 and 1.1.0)
4) The new firmware solves some problems, for a few owners it solves all their AF-problems
5) According to a German dealer, a hardware update is also necessary to solve the problem completely.

Now the questions

1) Is the above correct (at least at headlines)?
2) Is there a serial number above which the problem doesn't occur? I know this contradicts fact #2, but it could be that recent buyers don't have the problem anymore.

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Aug 01, 2007 at 05:08 PM

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p.18 #6 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

I think you've summed up the current status very well.

One thing I'd add...

Canon has acknowledged the AI focus issues, and has stated (Chuck Westfall) that the current 1.0.9 and 1.1.0 firmware releases are not intended to fully address the issue. They are planning to address the issue more completely in the near future (not clear if this will be another firmware update, or some other type of fix).

Mike

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Aug 01, 2007 at 07:16 PM

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p.18 #7 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Just to let you know that my Mark III has a serial number of 504xxx, which is one of the earlier shipped units. I received it from the first shipments made by B&H Photo and it has worked perfectly in all aspects. That includes BIF and sports photography using AI Servo mode.
Gene

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Aug 01, 2007 at 07:33 PM

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p.18 #8 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Mike Hatam wrote:
I think you've summed up the current status very well.

One thing I'd add...

Canon has acknowledged the AI focus issues, and has stated (Chuck Westfall) that the current 1.0.9 and 1.1.0 firmware releases are not intended to fully address the issue. They are planning to address the issue more completely in the near future (not clear if this will be another firmware update, or some other type of fix).

Mike

Can you refer me to this statement has stated (Chuck Westfall) that the current 1.0.9 and 1.1.0 firmware releases are not intended to fully address the issue. please.

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Aug 01, 2007 at 07:45 PM

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p.18 #9 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Hi all

I had some serious problems with AF on my mkIII. It wouldn't lock focus on static subjects. First one sharp, the others in a series varaibly OOf. Second AI servo didn't track very well. After updating to firmware 1.1.0 I am happy to say that AF now seems to work as it should. I tested a couple of hours with flying swallows against a bright background, and teh Af-behaviour is noticably beter IMO. No other problems at all. serial 511XXX

cheers

K

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Aug 01, 2007 at 09:23 PM

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p.18 #10 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Colin Key wrote:
Can you refer me to this statement has stated (Chuck Westfall) that the current 1.0.9 and 1.1.0 firmware releases are not intended to fully address the issue. please.

See this article.

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p.18 #11 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Colin Key wrote:
Mike Hatam wrote:
I think you've summed up the current status very well.

One thing I'd add...

Canon has acknowledged the AI focus issues, and has stated (Chuck Westfall) that the current 1.0.9 and 1.1.0 firmware releases are not intended to fully address the issue. They are planning to address the issue more completely in the near future (not clear if this will be another firmware update, or some other type of fix).

Mike

Can you refer me to this statement has stated (Chuck Westfall) that the current 1.0.9 and 1.1.0 firmware releases are not intended to fully address the issue. please.

Here's the exact para from the article Nill has a link to. And technically, Westfall was only talking about the 1.0.9 because I'm not sure we knew there was a 1.1.0 at that point. Obviously, there's gonna be more fixes of various types......

Westfall statement:
"We're not claiming that this new firmware is a panacea for anyone who has had anything wrong with the camera," Westfall said. "We're continuing to research the issue very carefully to make sure the camera is doing what it is supposed to do. If there's anything about that camera that isn't a 100 percent, we're going to find out what can be done to fix it."

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Aug 01, 2007 at 09:55 PM

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p.18 #12 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

It's my impression, FWIW, that 1.1.10 is not functionally different from 1.0.9, but is simply a bug fix for that version.

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Aug 01, 2007 at 10:28 PM

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p.18 #13 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Perhaps a dumb question but what does BIF mean?

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Aug 01, 2007 at 11:25 PM

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p.18 #14 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Birds In Flight

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Perhaps a dumb question but what does BIF mean?

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p.18 #15 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Nill, Don't you mean 1.1.0

Nill Toulme wrote:
It's my impression, FWIW, that 1.1.10 is not functionally different from 1.0.9, but is simply a bug fix for that version.

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p.18 #16 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Probably -- or is it 1.0.10?

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Aug 02, 2007 at 12:11 AM

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p.18 #17 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Nill,
It is 1.1.0 and not 1.1.10

Nill Toulme wrote:
Probably -- or is it 1.0.10?

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Aug 02, 2007 at 01:12 AM

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p.18 #18 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

i downloaded the file for Mac OS extraction and when i checked the file size, the file size was 10,375,168 bytes. The instructions say to re-download the file if it is a size different then 10,187,916 bytes.

I've tried downloading 4 times now and each time the file size is 10,375,168 bytes. I just wanted to know how to proceed

should i update my firmware with this file or not

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Aug 02, 2007 at 07:05 AM

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p.18 #19 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

khurram1 wrote:
i downloaded the file for Mac OS extraction and when i checked the file size, the file size was 10,375,168 bytes. The instructions say to re-download the file if it is a size different then 10,187,916 bytes.

I've tried downloading 4 times now and each time the file size is 10,375,168 bytes. I just wanted to know how to proceed

should i update my firmware with this file or not

I had the same thing happen with my iMac download (can't remember if the file size was exactly the same as yours, but definitely bigger than it should have been) so I downloaded onto a PC and got the precise number of bytes for the unzipped file and updated with that with no problems.

Any other Mac owners out there had the same result or can explain the problem?

Colin

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Aug 02, 2007 at 07:18 AM

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p.18 #20 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

The download size differ from the unzipped version of it.

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Aug 02, 2007 at 10:23 AM

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p.18 #21 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

I upgraded to 1.0.0 yesterday and followed the suggestions and explanations of Palladium for C.Fn settings at: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=336920&page=77 This post, 1154, is on page 77 of the - photography-on-the.net | Canon Digital Photography Forums | The latest report on 1D Mark III AF issues - thread if the link doesn't work.

I am now for the first time encouraged that the 1d3 will live up to the focus performance of my 1D and 1D2.

remember to set back to C.Fn defaults before (or even after) upgrading to 1.0.0. You may be able to set the C.Fn's and improve the focusing without upgrading. I upgraded first.

Edited by stan_g on Aug 02, 2007 at 10:33 AM GMT

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Aug 02, 2007 at 12:55 PM

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p.18 #22 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Colin Key wrote:
khurram1 wrote:
i downloaded the file for Mac OS extraction and when i checked the file size, the file size was 10,375,168 bytes. The instructions say to re-download the file if it is a size different then 10,187,916 bytes.

I've tried downloading 4 times now and each time the file size is 10,375,168 bytes. I just wanted to know how to proceed

should i update my firmware with this file or not

I had the same thing happen with my iMac download (can't remember if the file size was exactly the same as yours, but definitely bigger than it should have been) so I downloaded onto a PC and got the precise number of bytes for the unzipped file and updated with that with no problems.

Any other Mac owners out there had the same result or can explain the problem?

Colin
Thanks Colin, I'll try the same

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Aug 02, 2007 at 02:52 PM

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Tink wrote:
The download size differ from the unzipped version of it.

Yeah,

But the unzipped file on my Mac was larger than the the unzipped file on my PC - don't understand why.

Colin

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Aug 02, 2007 at 03:12 PM

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p.18 #24 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

Colin Key wrote:
Tink wrote:
The download size differ from the unzipped version of it.

Yeah,

But the unzipped file on my Mac was larger than the the unzipped file on my PC - don't understand why.

Colin

Now i'm confused. My PC file, is showing as being 10,127kb. However, when i use Canon's instructions of checking the file size using the properties-file size, the file is showing as being 10,369,144 bytes, which is larger then the 10,187,916 file size canon states in their instructions.

SHould i use this file

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Aug 02, 2007 at 04:11 PM

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p.18 #25 · RE-POLL: MkIII have AF issues?

I find it hard to believe that the file size would be consistent with all of the different drives that are out there, I would think the way the drive is formated would be the big factor on how big the files size is, I work on Mac's and PC's and when transferring files from one to another the files will show a different size, not by much but different.

khurram1 wrote:
Colin Key wrote:
Tink wrote:
The download size differ from the unzipped version of it.

Yeah,

But the unzipped file on my Mac was larger than the the unzipped file on my PC - don't understand why.

Colin

Now i'm confused. My PC file, is showing as being 10,127kb. However, when i use Canon's instructions of checking the file size using the properties-file size, the file is showing as being 10,369,144 bytes, which is larger then the 10,187,916 file size canon states in their instructions.

SHould i use this file

Edited on Sep 02, 2007 at 09:50 PM

Aug 02, 2007 at 04:17 PM


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