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p.26 #1 · p.26 #1 · 40D is for july

Nikon already has a 40D and a 40DX do you think Canon may go with something different??

Aug 02, 2007 at 03:03 PM

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p.26 #2 · p.26 #2 · 40D is for july

Nikon has a D40, not a 40D so i do not think this will deter Canon anymore then Canon's 300D will deter Nikon from calling their upcoming prosumer D300.

Aug 02, 2007 at 05:02 PM

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p.26 #3 · p.26 #3 · 40D is for july

mfurman wrote:
I am certain then that you do not care about pixel density (for maximum magnification). After initial enthusiasm about 5D (I am a long time film camera user) I realized that 1.6 crop gives me what I really want. If 40D does not have very good low light capabilities and and new (better) focusing with f/4.0 triple sensitivity, I will go with my original plan to get 1 D MkIII (after it is "fixed") but never FF!

I don't understand--except for shooting extreme telephoto, or perhaps great concern about wide open vignetting, I can't see why 1.6 crop would be 'what you want.' What is it about pixel density that is better than the same number of pixels spread over a larger sensor?

Aug 02, 2007 at 05:02 PM

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p.26 #4 · p.26 #4 · 40D is for july

MrSez wrote:
Nikon already has a 40D and a 40DX do you think Canon may go with something different??

And Canon still has the XT in it's lineup, which competes directly with the inexpensive Nikon(s).

Aug 02, 2007 at 05:03 PM

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p.26 #5 · p.26 #5 · 40D is for july

Tom_W wrote:
And Canon still has the XT in it's lineup, which competes directly with the inexpensive Nikon(s).

I think he meant the number 40 was in use by Nikon, albeit the D40/D40x instead of 40D. I've wondered about this as well, or at least if canon is concerned about consumers being confused by such similar naming.

Aug 02, 2007 at 05:47 PM

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p.26 #6 · p.26 #6 · 40D is for july

timbop wrote:
I think he meant the number 40 was in use by Nikon, albeit the D40/D40x instead of 40D. I've wondered about this as well, or at least if canon is concerned about consumers being confused by such similar naming.
I agree with 40D being confusing possibly to consumers since Nikon has 2 of them. If Canon's is indeed 40D, then there will be A D40, D40x, and a 40D!

I've wondered before about a 30D MkII. That would work I would think. But, that may tie it too close to the 30D I guess.

Aug 02, 2007 at 06:09 PM

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p.26 #7 · p.26 #7 · 40D is for july

millsbury said:
I don't understand--except for shooting extreme telephoto,
Do you mean that you do not use your lenses at close to MFD? What maximum magnification, do you think you get from (as an example) 135 f2.0 L lens at its MFD of 0.9 m, when used on 5D or 400D? Do you consider 400 mm as "extreme tele"? Once again compare 5D and 400D with a 400 mm lens.

Aug 02, 2007 at 07:06 PM

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p.26 #8 · p.26 #8 · 40D is for july

millsbury wrote:
I don't understand--except for shooting extreme telephoto, or perhaps great concern about wide open vignetting, I can't see why 1.6 crop would be 'what you want.' What is it about pixel density that is better than the same number of pixels spread over a larger sensor?

I'm not sure if thats supposed to be tongue-in-cheek. There is a benefit for pixel density. Ask any bird photographer. More pixels per bird, especially when you have to crop in and extract as much detail as possible.

Aug 02, 2007 at 07:20 PM

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p.26 #9 · p.26 #9 · 40D is for july

timbop wrote:
I think he meant the number 40 was in use by Nikon, albeit the D40/D40x instead of 40D. I've wondered about this as well, or at least if canon is concerned about consumers being confused by such similar naming.

Oops - you're probably right. I misinterpreted his message.

Perhaps Canon will name it something else like a 60D (yes, that's a rumour on another site).

Aug 02, 2007 at 07:32 PM

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p.26 #10 · p.26 #10 · 40D is for july

I heard that the number 4 was unlucky in Japan. That Canon would never use that number. Oh, by the way its Aug 2 and still no announcement on a 30D replacement. Just goes to show........rumors are just that..........rumors.

Aug 02, 2007 at 08:18 PM

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p.26 #11 · p.26 #11 · 40D is for july

Here's the scoop for those full-frame addicts and need-more-hard-drive-space victims, myself included. Canon is going to surprise you this fall and make you buy even more hard drives this coming fall. You didn't hear this from me

No info for 40D.

Aug 02, 2007 at 08:32 PM

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p.26 #12 · p.26 #12 · 40D is for july

Canon 10D wrote:
Here's the scoop for those full-frame addicts and need-more-hard-drive-space victims, myself included. Canon is going to surprise you this fall and make you buy even more hard drives this coming fall. You didn't hear this from me

No info for 40D.

What, they're going to start writing in TIFF format?

Aug 02, 2007 at 08:41 PM

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p.26 #13 · p.26 #13 · 40D is for july

Craig DOrsay wrote:
What, they're going to start writing in TIFF format?

Lol. not quite. Think big, think MP, and think DR

Canon is already thinking about new compression algorithm for next year.

Aug 02, 2007 at 09:40 PM

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p.26 #14 · p.26 #14 · 40D is for july

Don't think this is what you're talking about, but they are coming out with some HD camcorders that record directly to hard disk. Don't know if that was a secret or not...

Aug 02, 2007 at 09:42 PM

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p.26 #15 · p.26 #15 · 40D is for july

Canon 10D wrote:
You didn't hear this from me.

Lol. not quite. Think big, think MP, and think DR

Canon is already thinking about new compression algorithm for next year.

Wow, some scope news. But don't tell me.... you're not the kind of guy who starts rumours right.

Aug 03, 2007 at 03:22 AM

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p.26 #16 · p.26 #16 · 40D is for july

Can't see them unilaterally going with their own compressed format (outside of say lossless compression for RAW) and to get one ratified as a proper standard and then accepted as a defacto standard can take years.

Aug 03, 2007 at 04:00 AM

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p.26 #17 · p.26 #17 · 40D is for july

mfurman wrote:
I am certain then that you do not care about pixel density (for maximum magnification). After initial enthusiasm about 5D (I am a long time film camera user) I realized that 1.6 crop gives me what I really want. If 40D does not have very good low light capabilities and and new (better) focusing with f/4.0 triple sensitivity, I will go with my original plan to get 1 D MkIII (after it is "fixed") but never FF!

I care very deeply about pixel density- i want a LOWER pixel count.
If canon dropped a FF 8mpx tomorrow, i'd sell my 1DII and 135L for it haha.

Aug 03, 2007 at 04:21 AM

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p.26 #18 · p.26 #18 · 40D is for july

EOS20 wrote:
You can bet that there is a 99.99% chance that there will not be anything other then a APS-C sensor in the 30D replacement.

You're a pessimist, it's more like 99.99999999999999999999%.

I found a picture of a Canon lawyer interrogating a would be source of info on the 40D, but he claims he knows nothink

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/hogans-heroes-2.jpg

Aug 03, 2007 at 05:32 AM

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p.26 #19 · p.26 #19 · 40D is for july

Canon 10D wrote:
Lol. not quite. Think big, think MP, and think DR

Canon is already thinking about new compression algorithm for next year.

Canon, just like any digital camera manufacturer who does in-house development, will think about new compression tricks all the time, so that's a bit of an empty statement, isn't it?

Big, MP, DR... Will there be a 1Ds III? Yes, there will be. That will have more MP (no-brainer really) and, given that the 1D Mk III has 14-bit depth, it will have bigger files too. If the increased bit depth leads to usable higher DR remains to be seen, but it's reasonable to expect it does.

And then there are the ever present rumours that Canon will move into Medium Format cameras... Possible for sure. Big? Check. Lots of pixels? Check. Insane DR? Check again. (The PhaseOne P45 digiback with 39 Mpixel Kodak MF sensor does 12 stops DR... to give you an idea of what can be had from a 49.1 x 36.8 mm sensor.)

But what does all this have to do with the speculation on the 30D successor? It will not be 8 Mpixel but at least 10. So the fact that we'll need more CF and HD capacity to store the same amount of shots is ... again... a no brainer.

Even if the 40D will jump to 12 Mpixel and 14-bit precision, that'll put it it at an expected ( 12/8 * 14/12 = 1.75 ) 75% increase in file size.

Aug 03, 2007 at 06:19 AM

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p.26 #20 · p.26 #20 · 40D is for july

How's this? Seems very real to me.


	http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/camera_images/canon/40D/40d-slrclub.jpg


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Check out http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_40D.html

Aug 03, 2007 at 07:13 AM

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