Rob Riley
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Lotusm50 wrote:
I don't think this is significant problem. They just have to design a different lens. Existing film and cine lenses may not be appropriate, so produce a new design that is appropriate to the application. It can be done. Case in point: The Sony R1 with an APS-c sensor has a very high performance lens whose rear element is only 2.1mm from the sensor assembly.
you probably dont think it significant but your supposition that the Zeiss design from R1 would succeed is quite wrong. That lens cant collapse into the body because it is short a distance from the sensor.
To reiterate the real problem, the collapsible lens is the whole reason that it suffers to F4 as the moving elements take away valuable diameter. To add to the design problems is the fact that the register when operating is still apparently quite short. I suspect the geometry is more similar to a pancake design with collapsible virtues.
Lotusm50 wrote:
I think this is an overblown concern. Such a compact could be MORE profitable for them. They are cheaper to build (no mirror box, prism, or interchangeable lens mount) and could sell for as much as a DSLR. Further, it is not a substitute for the DSLR. And those people who might buy such a camera instead of a DSLR are not the ones who are going to be buying a lot of accessories, lenses, etc. So you are not going to have those add-on sales from those customers anyway. Without real competition in this particular market niche, pricing power and lower costs combined with most buyers seeing as a supplement to their DSLR, most likely would lead to increased revenue and profits for the manufacturer.
Perhaps, but there is no research i know of into this, the one camera that attempted it, coincidentally the R1, was removed from sale after Sony introduced detail of its dSLR deal. But that was a comparative monster and probably bigger than the dSLR that replaced it.
To me, for Sigma this is a gamble and it is a brave move as they will be first into this category of compact APS C. If it holds its ground perhaps other manufacturers will see the need to develop their own compacts but I dont hold a lot of hope for most excepting Panasonic/Leica who in any event are less geared to dSLRs.
And as laudable and interesting as you make it seem now, no doubt you will return as one of your other selves to discredit DP1 sometime later as you have before.
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