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p.18 #1 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

The 1DmkIII looks pretty interesting. 10fps is insane. Sadly, it looks like that's all Canon has to show us in the DSLR range.

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p.18 #2 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

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Did anyone see the Sigma 200-500 f2.8 lens?! It is one HUUGE monster!

Only the possible hoax on this site. No mention of it on Sigma's site.

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p.18 #3 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Imagemaster wrote:
jasonjoo wrote:

Did anyone see the Sigma 200-500 f2.8 lens?! It is one HUUGE monster!

Only the possible hoax on this site. No mention of it on Sigma's site.

Straight from Sigma's site:

http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm

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p.18 #4 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Any price on that mark3 yet?

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p.18 #5 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

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Any price on that mark3 yet?

$3,999

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p.18 #6 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Any update on the US street date? It's hard to believe that the excitment is over already for the MkIII - I can't wait to get mine. The Nikon folks would've been "a little thrilled" to have such a camera announced.

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p.18 #7 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

where is it available for 3999?

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p.18 #8 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

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Canon can't say they are leaders in the technology and at the same time scratch their heads when people complain about the lack of new technology.

That 40D better be something special. Rumors have it that Canon might have a FOveon type sensor in the works for the 1DsIII and maybe the 40D.

I've always seen a parallelism between the 1Ds &1D line and the 5D & x0D line (N's and I, II, III aside). The 5D is a baby 1Ds interation, and the 20D is a baby 1D. Maybe they come out with a new sensor technology with the 1DsIII and the 20D which makes its way to the 5D successor later.

If this is the year of great things for the EOS line, it is hard to believe that taking away an "n" and adding an "I" to the 1DIIn is what they are going to do with PMA show.

To beat the 200D, the 40D is going to have to be 14MP with weather sealing, eye control and some e-goodies to make Canon compelling again. The 20D had the D100 faded, that is what I expect from someone that says they are the markets technology leader.

Mark

I'll always said that if you were going to dream, dream big, otherwise why bother

I like everything you said. Everything! Your desires for the 40D seem very big and probably won't happen but I like your direction. I'm sure many will say it will all cost too much for the 40D level but I believe Canon needs to make up for the wimpy 20D upgrade, the 30D. While the 30D is by all rights a fine camera, it's not really a 20D upgrade in my opinion. Warmed over 20D I would say. The 20D was revolutionary, no doubt, but they just basically changed the name to 30D and tweaked it here and there.

It is way past time for an upgrade to the 20D. Gosh, it's been 2 1/2 years since it was announced without an upgrade. It's way past time for a real upgrade.

I would imagine the 40D, when it comes, this year or next, will be somewhere between what you said and a warmed over 30D. I would love to see the eye control, foveon sensor, some weather sealing, DigicIII, and at least 12MP to be an upgrade. Anything less will be just another "warmed over" camera. Larger viewfinder, 3" screen and other "goodies" would be really nice.

Come on Canon! Give us our 40D NOW!

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p.18 #9 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

$3999 is what the white paper said, though most dealers (e.g. B&H etc) aren't listing a price yet.

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p.18 #10 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

mrvile7734 wrote:

Straight from Sigma's site:

http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm

That is not the official Sigma site, this is: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/

If the other site is genuine, why are there no links on that site, and why no mention of this lens on the genuine Sigma site

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p.18 #11 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Imagemaster wrote:
That is not the official Sigma site, this is: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/

If the other site is genuine, why are there no links on that site, and why no mention of this lens on the genuine Sigma site

Right, everyone is just making all this up

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030805sigma200500mm.asp#press

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p.18 #12 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Imagemaster wrote:
mrvile7734 wrote:

Straight from Sigma's site:

http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm

That is not the official Sigma site, this is: http://www.sigmaphoto.com/

If the other site is genuine, why are there no links on that site, and why no mention of this lens on the genuine Sigma site

sigma-photo.co.jp is actually more official than sigmaphoto.com. The .co.jp is the official site from Japan. Since Sigma is a Japanese company, all their info and whatever goes to their Japanese site first before it comes to ours.

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p.18 #13 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

It appears golf and photography have a lot in common. Golfers are always waiting for the new equipment with the promise of improving their game. Annually, golfers are disappointed when new clubs don't improve their handicaps. Perhaps next year's equipment innovation will do it.

It appears photographers also wait for the next gadget to improve their art. Unfortunately, great glass, proper technique, and creativity are all that is needed. Enjoy the great equipment you already own as it meets or exceeds most of our creative abilities. Technology is a game of leap frog...Canon jumps Nikon and Nikon jumps Canon. If you wait 18 months, the lead will change. Have patience.

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p.18 #14 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Monito wrote:
Sony has pre-announced two new DSLRs positioned above the Alpha. They don't even have names yet
Probably Beta and Gamma...

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p.18 #15 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Is there anyone else who is surprised, or disappointed at the lack of a 30D successor at PMA

Canon has not really released a "new" APS DSLR in the mid price zone since the D60.

As a result, Nikon has been having a field day with new buyers who might have been Canon customers if there was a newer, and more innovative design in this mid price zone (between entry level, and 5D).

Martin

Edited by Scott Sewell on Mar 09, 2007 at 08:50 AM GMT (Reason: Merged into PMA thread.)

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p.18 #16 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Ah, but think of what you have to look forward to! The excitement, the posts on the forum, the continued speculation....and Canon will just have to make an even better camera when they do finally introduce it or they will be behind the curve. It should be an even bigger step up from the 30D.

Patience, grasshopper.

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p.18 #17 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Martin wrote:
Is there anyone else who is surprised, or disappointed at the lack of a 30D successor at PMA

Gee, I haven't seen any evidence of those kind of thoughts except for in every single thread remotely pertaining to PMA.

Martin wrote:
As a result, Nikon has been having a field day with new buyers who might have been Canon customers if there was a newer, and more innovative design in this mid price zone (between entry level, and 5D).

Even though we are really in the Canon normal timetable with the 30D in terms of a successor, it has gotten to the point now that a majority of people will certainly be disappointed with whatever Canon announces. Sort of like the 3D; it is basically impossible for Canon to match the hype these models develop, particularly for those looking more for innovation than evolution.

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p.18 #18 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Since the D60, and you still stay with this ancient, old fashion, not innovative company?

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p.18 #19 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

To me... what's even more disappointing then the lack of a 30D successor at PMA is the fact that Canon seems to think they can generate more interest in the 30D by offering up in the form of a bunch of new kits... It's kind like getting some leftovers out of the fridge and putting it on a fancy plate hoping your family won't notice that it's the same thing you've been eating for the past week.

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p.18 #20 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Chris Dees wrote:
Since the D60, and you still stay with this ancient, old fashion, not innovative company?

Exactly my thoughts, all these people complaining how antiquated their 30Ds are, but I see they are all still here in the Canon forum after they tell us how Nikon is offering them so much more. I don't look forward to 6 more months of this endless bashing and speculation; I wish they'd shut-up or put-up and buy into the Nikon system if they think it is superior.

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p.18 #21 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Martin wrote:
Is there anyone else who is surprised, or disappointed at the lack of a 30D successor at PMA

Not surprised...the 30D has only been out a year. If there's a replacement, I wouldn't expect it until August 2007.

Canon has not really released a "new" APS DSLR in the mid price zone since the D60.

What!

Hmmm, there's the 10D, 20D and 30D...we've seen lots of improvements over the years. Bigger sensor, better high ISO performance, higher fps, better AF...of course there is that horrible BG-E2 to complain about, but otherwise things have gone pretty well.

YMMV

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p.18 #22 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

I guess I'm at a loss as to why we really need the 30D to be upgraded yet? Its images still compare very well, if not beat, most of the Nikon's near its price range. I guess I'm pretty content still with my 20D, and am looking forward to new lenses more then a 40D.

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p.18 #23 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Canon is just trying to liquidate it stocks of the 30D that is not selling as well as they thought because it was such a minor upgrade. I think we as consumers should not fall for the packages and lower price of the 30D.
Unless they drop the price to match the 400D.

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p.18 #24 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

Hammerli wrote:
Chris Dees wrote:
Since the D60, and you still stay with this ancient, old fashion, not innovative company?

Exactly my thoughts, all these people complaining how antiquated their 30Ds are, but I see they are all still here in the Canon forum after they tell us how Nikon is offering them so much more. I don't look forward to 6 more months of this endless bashing and speculation; I wish they'd shut-up or put-up and buy into the Nikon system if they think it is superior.

I'm still complaining and will continue until I'm satisfied that Canon CAN bring out an updated 20D. They pretended they did with the 30D but it was just a warmed-over 20D.

So, I'm not going to shut up and I'm not going to buy into the Nikon system. Maybe some of you that are complaining about other Canon users should. I've been a Canon user for over 30 years and probably will continue no matter who tells me to quit!

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p.18 #25 · 'Official' Post-PMA Discussion thread

I guess I'm at a loss as to why we really need the 30D to be upgraded yet?

I suppose that "we" don't - if "we" refers to those who already own a 30D. However, one suspects that Canon does need to upgrade soon given the increasing number of competitors providing cameras that compete strongly with Canon on features and price.

A short time ago Canon arguably had a significant feature-based lead over the others but that is not the case at the moment. Nikon's newest offerings are very compelling, there is a lot to like in the new Pentax cameras, and Sony could be a strong competitor as well.

While it wouldn't make much sense for a current Canon 30D owner with a few lenses to switch to one of the other companies in order to get a few more MPs, new buyers, especially at the entry-level (those considering cameras in the class of the Canon 400D and 30D) now have plenty of reasons to consider the other brands.

Canon is a smart company. One hopes that they have improvements in the pipeline that are will be compelling enough that a 6-12 month delay will not be a big deal in the long run.

Take care,

Dan

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