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p.98 #1 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


B&H's web site is showing 1D MKIII in stock now at 8:00 est...

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p.98 #2 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Kier wrote:
The AF on the 1Ds was the same as that on the 1D, the AF on the 1Ds2 was the same as that on the 1D2, there was no 1Ds2N, but it's almost a sure thing that the 1Ds3 will have an identical AF system to the 1D3.

Which is very scary indeed.



It was being claimed by someone at dpreview that the 1Ds III has an updated AF module that does not suffer temperature related misbehaviour.


I remembered someone came from Calgary said that the 40D and the 1Ds3 has a new AF system that is different from 1D3 and its not temperature sensitive.

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Sep 12, 2007 at 12:23 PM
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p.98 #3 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


The 40D uses a completely new AF system not seen before in any Canon cameras, I can't comment on that.

Historically, the 1Ds series has used the same AF system as its partner 1D.

The 1Ds3 almost certainly uses the same AF system as the 1D3 for the simple reason that if Canon have found that they need to improve temperature tolerances for their 1-series AF to work, why haven't they announced that they have found the problem with the 1D3 and taken steps to make it right for all those who have already bought the camera?

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Sep 12, 2007 at 01:11 PM
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p.98 #4 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


would go for it, except I am afraid of a body thats been returned 10 times.

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Sep 12, 2007 at 05:13 PM
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p.98 #5 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Consider what you would do if you were in Canon's position? You certainly wouldn't want to owe up to 1/2 of the problem and/or announce a fix or exchange policy that didn't eliminate the entire problem (and the few more that might emerge after more field use?).

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p.98 #6 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Jeff wrote:
How long have you owned it, Stephen? It's the inconsistency factor that is so befuddling to me; sometimes it coincides with when I'm shooting AI Servo, sometimes not. Perhaps the intersections of your subsets have been aligned by your good karma...

Jeff my main AF issues has been in bright sunlight. I had a signficant number of out of focus shots at Big Sur when shooting the rocky creek bridge in AF Single shot mode. I found AF tracking of mountain goats at Glacier was fine when i was shooting them in shade. However when they were out in the sun, same issue. It just seems that the camera is not holding focus under bright conditions.

I also read that both the 1DsIII and the 40D do have some different hardware then the 1DIII. So a hardware fix may be needed, althought so far from everything i've read it looks like canon is just trying to deal with the issue through firmware updates.

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Sep 12, 2007 at 05:26 PM
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p.98 #7 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I see even after half a day it is still showing in stock. I think there is a message for Canon in there. I can remember reports of 120+ cameras selling out in 30-mins. There are tons of folks wanting a new MkIII but are hesitant to risk $4500 on a dud.



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p.98 #8 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Buying one now is like shooting craps, it's a gamble. You roll the dice you take what you get. I think I'll wait till the Mk3N or when Canon annouces a fix.

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Sep 12, 2007 at 05:39 PM
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p.98 #9 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I am glad patience is something I am learning about in my old age.

BH is sold out again...dont bother

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p.98 #10 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Why aren't the current owners piping in here about how blown out of proportion the alleged 1DMKIII focus problem is...?

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p.98 #11 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


They are out of stock now.

= Ed =

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Sep 12, 2007 at 08:11 PM
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p.98 #12 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


sivrajbm wrote:
Buying one now is like shooting craps, it's a gamble. You roll the dice you take what you get. I think I'll wait till the Mk3N or when Canon annouces a fix.


I think I would wait even longer than that so that any of the old ones floating around have been repaired or returned to Canon.


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Sep 12, 2007 at 08:29 PM
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p.98 #13 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


John Power wrote:
Why aren't the current owners piping in here about how blown out of proportion the alleged 1DMKIII focus problem is...?


I had a great copy of the MKIII but I know of many pros that have had several bad copies. They are not strangers to the 1 series and compared to mine they were definitely defective so I think the jury is still out as to whether the AF problem is truly blown out of proportion.

Jim


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Sep 12, 2007 at 08:36 PM
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p.98 #14 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Perhaps many have not read Ron Gailbraith's original, and now updated, article on the EOS-1D Mk. III it's at the link below.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-8740-9068

Mr. Gailbraith's article does seem credible.



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p.98 #15 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I would flippin' well hope that the 40D has different AF hardware from the 1 series - otherwise why is the 1D3 more than three times the price of the 40D?

Seriously though, the 40D and the 1D3 share almost nothing from their AF system. The 1D3 and the 1Ds3 - that's a different story.

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Sep 12, 2007 at 09:46 PM
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p.98 #16 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


300 F 2.8 1/400 sec IS on.


This image is copyrighted by the owner


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Sep 12, 2007 at 11:36 PM
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p.98 #17 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Studio 58,

I had the same one shot autofoucus issue as shown here. Also using the same lens......... Sent the camera to Canon.
They said " electrical adjustments to autofocus system, installed new firmware" .

The one shot autofocus works fine now. Not so sure about A1 servo..

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Sep 12, 2007 at 11:52 PM
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p.98 #18 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Studio58:

No. No..............that sucks, i feel your pain

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Sep 12, 2007 at 11:53 PM
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p.98 #19 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Studio58 wrote:
300 F 2.8 1/400 sec IS on.


That one shot seems badly OoF.
Yet, I think we all get occasional "inexplicable" OoF shots, even with best gear and best practices used, on the type of targets we habitually/routinely shoot . Therefore, the key consideration ought to be a change in frequency/persistency of misfocused shots......based on a fairly large number of images.


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Sep 13, 2007 at 02:43 AM
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p.98 #20 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I think I am happy that one was out of focus

Jerry

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Sep 13, 2007 at 03:24 AM
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p.98 #21 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I'm probably way off base here... but...

Could it be that the extra sensitivity to the dark is creating havoc w/ the extra bright? As if the whole thing was shifted and now dark is fine but bright is overwhelming (as in overexposed) and auto focus simply isn't able to get a lock?

eh, just random musings.

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p.98 #22 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


That person seems to be OOF in real life.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 06:51 PM
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p.98 #23 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Mariner,

Look at it this way. Canon spent some amount of time (2-3 years?) designing the MkIII and obviously the engineers designed some things that aren't working as advertised. Then the testing process failed to detect the problems. The full extent of the problem was initially surfaced by photogs out in the real world (i.e. Canon had to find out from somewhere else that their product has issues, or at least a significant number of the bodies do.)

During this process Canon rolled out at least a couple firmware updates that pretty much fell flat, at least in terms of their ability to fix the AF issues. So the problem would appear to be pretty complicated and, to be honest, if you're a Canon exec you've got to be wondering what's going on with your engineers and testing folks. I would imagine that they're trying to fix two major things: the MkIII and also the various processes that allowed this product out the door with its various problems. I agree that Canon should have done something to communicate a bit more with consumers although given the fact that they probably have been, or are, as confused as everyone else they might simply have made things worse through public statements. I'm confident that they'll get it fixed, if only because it's in their own financial interest. But it may take some time because they clearly had no idea about the extent of the problem. It will be interesting to see what happens with the 40D, which seems to be getting good reviews, and the 1DsMkIII. On the latter, if I were them I'd be pretty nervous about that roll-out.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 08:40 PM
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p.98 #24 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Since Aug. 29, Ron G. announced that firmware 1.1.1 is being installed and tested at Osaka.

15 days later, the silence is hurting my ears. Could this mean the new firmware helped and they cannot replicate the problem? I do believe that if the problem was still there, someone would be itching to tell. I would think. Maybe they are trying very hard to make it fail and just can't. I don't know.

Any thoughts?

Scott G.

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Sep 13, 2007 at 10:49 PM
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p.98 #25 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Everyone who was at the Osaka event was killed in a freak accident when an unspecified camera exploded sending shrapnel for 2 miles. I'm sure we'll read about it a few years from now when the gov't is done covering it up...

_peace_

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