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p.10 #1 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

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- photodiode size on the III is the same as the IIn. So the resolution increase may not be the usual two steps forward (pixel count) and one step backward (quality per pixel)
- "second generation on-chip noise reduction" is new language

Regarding your first point, it is still a net one step forward (from 8.2 to 10.1MP, and with a SNR basically the same as the IIN, according to the white paper.)

As for the on chip noise reduction, that is the terminology they have been using with the 20D/5D/!DsII.

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:02 PM

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p.10 #2 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

I love my N but I think I'll be looking at this body as soon as it comes out

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:03 PM

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p.10 #3 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

Hrow wrote:
There are thems that need FF and there are thems that don't.

Full frame is nice for some things. However, for my usage, the AF placement is much more usable with the 1.3x crop.

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:04 PM

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p.10 #4 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

Has Canon ever done a direct lens replacement before - 16-35II? Note the new big filter size.

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:07 PM

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p.10 #5 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

dan9 wrote:
dcmiller wrote:

- photodiode size on the III is the same as the IIn. So the resolution increase may not be the usual two steps forward (pixel count) and one step backward (quality per pixel)
- "second generation on-chip noise reduction" is new language

Regarding your first point, it is still a net one step forward (from 8.2 to 10.1MP, and with a SNR basically the same as the IIN, according to the white paper.)

As for the on chip noise reduction, that is the terminology they have been using with the 20D/5D/!DsII.

I'm in "marketing hype" mode

I'll wait to get the camera to start bashing the small points.

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:09 PM

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p.10 #6 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

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He played by the rules (no leaks) while others didn't. He's recognized as the premier DP web site.. "MOM, why should I be punished".
I expect a related thing happened when Michael R. wrote that "nothing new at Canon" article a couple of months ago. He heard about a lot of cameras being tested, yet he was out of the loop.
It would seem there's no impact on sales to the 1 series by not giving these guys a preview. Demand can't be met for months anyways. But it is nice to get their opinions.

I agree that it would be nice to have some interpretation and analysis immediately after the announcement, but it's not necessary. I highly doubt that them not telling him about the new body will in any way affect their sales figures. The footnote he put on the DPR news announcement just struck me as pretty petulant, like he had a sense that he was beyond the normal guidelines for conifdentiality.

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:15 PM

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They fixed the portrait grip shutter release. Lithium batteries gets us smart battery info, and the charger has indicators for charge level on it. They shaved half a pound weight off, mostly battery true, but I like the size of the 1 series, or I can use my 5D. When I traded my 1D2 for a 5D, I noticed that I couldn't get good balance on my Wimberley with the 600mm anymore, so I'm glad the weight isn't too much less...And I hate the batteries on the 5D, even the new one I bought doesn't have much stamina when using IS on the big lens...
I love the increased x-type sensors, and the new distribution. I am glad it's 1.3 crop, I really notice the difference using the 5D.

They really, really listened. DPP 3.0, I wonder if it has more than just new camera support added....

This camera is perfect.....for me. Couldn't ask for a better birding camera.

Now, how much is that new 16-35 going to be? Price and availability not provided.

The best eye-candy on the new camera is over at R.Galbraith's page :

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-8736-8850

Scroll down a bit...

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:16 PM

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wtlloyd wrote:
DPP 3.0, I wonder if it has more than just new camera support added....

Wouldn't it be GREAT if it were something like Raw Shooter Premium was?

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:19 PM

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p.10 #9 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

fuck ! now I need to sale my new 1D MKIIn, the 16-35 USML2.8 and my two 580 Ex..... !!!!

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:28 PM

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p.10 #10 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

Q: what do the letters in Canon's body names mean, if anything?
for example - 20Da (Digital / Astro)

What's the "S" for in 1Ds, and the "N" in Mark II N? Anything?

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:42 PM

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p.10 #11 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

I noticed the mark2N is $3339 at B&H, has there been a price drop recently?

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:42 PM

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p.10 #12 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

AND!! They did put in the GPS interface for those of us who need it. Thanks Canon.
As I read the white paper DPP3.0 allows remote focus of the live preview and capture through the wireless unit.
Nice improvement of the wireless unit also.
Hopefully all of this will be in the new 1DS whenever it appears for those of us who need the higher res. I'm tempted but I'll try to wait for the 1DSIII.

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:42 PM

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p.10 #13 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

sskoutas wrote:
What's the "S" for in 1Ds, and the "N" in Mark II N? Anything?

S probably stood for Studio

N probably stood for New

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:48 PM

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p.10 #14 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

I posted my thoughts in photo.net so I apologize for those who are reading this twice.

I am actually not that impressed with the 1DmkIII (don't get me wrong... I have been very curious for Canon's new line up to come out). Here is why:

1. Live Preview - Maybe I misunderstood but in Live Preview mode, you can only manual focus (pg 24 of the white papers). This totally defeats the purpose of those over the head wide angle shots you can get with a digicam. You are still shooting blind. So it is primarily only good when shooting in a studio (probably still not this camera's forte) where checking on a larger monitor or computer screen would be more helpful. The only place I see this as a real asset is shooting still macros in the field. The speed you lose in using this feature to me would not offset the gain of seeing enlarged focus or metering adjustments.

2. 10mp vs 8mp... 10fps vs 8fps - nice but not a huge advancement.

3. Integrated cleaning - isn't the jury still out on the effectiveness of this with the Rebel XTi?

4. Wider dynamic range - According the white papers (pg 12) this setting will sacrifice noise in the shadows. I guess we will have to see exactly what the compromise is. Isn't that the same thing that happens when you adjust in post production? The CS3's new shadow/highlight adjustments in RAW is actually much more interesting to me.

5. More file format saving options. Faster processing (dual processors?) - My 1DII has never slowed me down. File format options are nice but would you SERIOUSLY shoot sRAW instead of RAW? Why? Especially with such a big buffer... I feel most people shoot the best quality they can and downgrade afterwards. Dual Processors I think is just a buzz word.

6. Faster/Better AF - Surely this will be invaluable to some but only time will tell how much better than the current system it will actually be. Nice upgrade but I wouldn't pay for it.

The only improvement that did interest me was the lighter body (but I'd rather have liked to see a 1V type body in a DSLR). I'd rather have just liked to see a lighter battery for the current 1-series...

IMO, this is a great body if you didn't already own a 1DII or 1DIIN and were in the market for one... BUT I don't think it is that GREAT of a deal. Same price as the 1DIIN released 2 years ago and slighter cheaper than the 3 year old 1DII with what is to me, bogus upgrades... okay... maybe that is an exaggeration. I'd love to see what others think... not just the OOGLING that has been going on

I hope they release a D200 counterpart... cause that camera keeps staring at me.

Best regards,

aaron

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:53 PM

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p.10 #15 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

You missed the higher ISO, the better AF sensitivity (both one stop), the increased number of cross-type high-precision AF sensors (and their placement), the lighter weight, the AF adjustment, etc, etc, etc.

Almost EVERY issue that I've read about that people had with the 1-series has been addressed by Canon with this camera. Except for those who really want/need full frame and ultra-high resolution, this camera represents a big step forward. And for anybody who shoots action or in the dark, I don't see how they can resist upgrading . . especially if they earn a living with the camera.

Feb 22, 2007 at 03:56 PM

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p.10 #16 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

Now you've almost talked me into forgetting my resolve to keep my current cameras for a while...

Feb 22, 2007 at 04:02 PM

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p.10 #17 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

FretNoMore wrote:
Now you've almost talked me into forgetting my resolve to keep my current cameras for a while...

I honestly didn't think that Canon would come out with anything that I just "had to have" this year to replace my 1D-II's. I didn't upgrade to the 1D-IIN, either.

But EVERYTHING they did to this camera is just awesome! About the only thing I wouldn't have done is to change the interface. I actually LIKE the "hold one button while turning a dial" approach that that the 1-series has had up until now. But, I guess I can learn to live with the new system. It does appear that once you're done setting something, it can't be "bumped" unless you re-press the button, so maybe it'll be OK and I'll be singing the praise of this, too.

Feb 22, 2007 at 04:06 PM

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p.10 #18 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

That's the one thing I thought too, I appreciate having just one user interface when using two bodies.

So... if I were to replace the 1DII that would make it necessary to also replace the 1DsII...

... now where did I put my bank robber's kit...

Feb 22, 2007 at 04:14 PM

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p.10 #19 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

I know what you mean . . I considered shooting the telethon this year with one 1D-II and the 5D . . but the different interfaces would've driven me nuts.

Feb 22, 2007 at 04:15 PM

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p.10 #20 · 1D-III specs on Canon's site

DavidP wrote:

For once, it appears that Canon has actually LISTENED to the photographers for which this camera is designed . . . and actually gone back to square one and designed what they WANTED.

Kudos to Canon!

I agree 100%. And the combination of the 1.3x crop with cross-AF-sensors on the edges is great.

Feb 22, 2007 at 04:15 PM

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