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p.47 #1 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

brunobarolo wrote:
But ... Can you really imagine, Photokina starting, and Canon being asked for news, answers, well, we have come up with a new 400D some weeks ago...?

I think it is exactly what they usually do. So, we can imagine that happen.

Sep 02, 2006 at 07:05 PM

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p.47 #2 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

brunobarolo wrote:
May I take part, after having read 148 pages ?

I don't have any new rumour, any source, or any information ...

But ... Can you really imagine, Photokina starting, and Canon being asked for news, answers, well, we have come up with a new 400D some weeks ago...?

I cannot. They will have some great news. And my calendar says it will be a new 1 Series camera. Maybe an announcement only, delivery in 2007. But no less.

You are most welcome!

I have also read all these pages, day by day. Did you read all them in one session?

Anyway, now that you have read about a book's worth of words, with a somewhat vague plot but a few very good jokes, e.g. about fast women and about Dave's marriage (presumably not related though): Was it really worth it for you?

Sep 02, 2006 at 07:48 PM

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p.47 #3 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Xavier Rival wrote:
brunobarolo wrote:
But ... Can you really imagine, Photokina starting, and Canon being asked for news, answers, well, we have come up with a new 400D some weeks ago...?

I think it is exactly what they usually do. So, we can imagine that happen.

Huh? I must have missed this 'usual' behaviour - last Photokina they announced the 1DsII in September, just before the show, and I believe the Photokina before saw the announcement of the 1Ds.
Regards,
DaveMart

Sep 02, 2006 at 07:57 PM

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p.47 #4 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

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I am hearing that there are two bodies yet to anounce... They are not upgrading the 5D, it is a new body. That is all that was said...

Well another source just said no new additional SLR's for this show, so go figure...

At this point anything is possible.

true no new or at least no production model. But there will probably be an announcement for a new SLR to be release in first period of 2007.

Sep 02, 2006 at 08:45 PM

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p.47 #5 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Canon's basket of goodies was so full they had to let them out in advance!

Sep 03, 2006 at 12:11 AM

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p.47 #6 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Atlasman2 wrote:
Canon's basket of goodies was so full they had to let them out in advance!

Sep 03, 2006 at 01:31 AM

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p.47 #7 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

I think the announcement of the 400D had more to to with responding to Nikon and Sony's moves. Still no reviews out. Hopefully we will see some reviews soon. I am interested in the claim that the s/n matches the 30D.

I've seen several reviews out. The Camera Labs review has test shots, noise analysis, etc. These early reveiws are listed here, newest first.

Good reading!

Gene

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon400D/index.shtml

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/rebel%20xti.shtml

Sep 03, 2006 at 01:42 AM

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p.47 #8 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Yes, there's a couple of reviews out, though I question them slightly. There are also a few people buying 400D/XTi cameras at Best Buys in at least a couple of locations. They are in stock, even if they aren't supposed to be sold yet. There's some user reports on DPReview.

Not convinced on the noise issue yet, but I'm also not in the market for one. I think Canon has a market winner here, and I hope that it outperforms the Nikon & Sony 10's as well.

Sep 03, 2006 at 02:03 AM

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Mr Grim wrote:
I've seen several reviews out. The Camera Labs review has test shots, noise analysis, etc. These early reveiws are listed here, newest first.

Good reading!

Gene

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon400D/index.shtml

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0608/06082416canoneos400drebelxti.asp

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/rebel%20xti.shtml

I had read the Luminous Landscape and DPreview articles. The camera labs I had not seen. The dpreview is not thier full review. I shoot 99% with 3 lenses; the Sigma 12-24, a 50 (1.8 or 2.5) and the 80-200L. I want some comparison shots with a high quality lens like the 50 macro. DPReview's reviews have that. The camera labs compares the 18-55 for most of their shots. I have one. It hasn't been out of my bag in 2 years. Luminous Landscape has one XTi/400D image each with the 50 1.2L and 70-200is F4L. They look great. I would have learned something from a comparison shoot with either of these lenses. Michael Reichmann said This is not a review. I repeat – this is not a review! Anyone that gets their knickers in a twist because I haven't ... and provided sample images at 100% magnification, should take their meds

It looks like I'm still waiting.

Sep 03, 2006 at 02:26 AM

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p.47 #10 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

>> But ... Can you really imagine, Photokina starting, and Canon being asked for news, answers, well, we have come up with a new 400D some weeks ago...?

I cannot. They will have some great news. And my calendar says it will be a new 1 Series camera. Maybe an announcement only, delivery in 2007. But no less.

Chant with me: 3D, 3D, 3D......

Sep 03, 2006 at 09:00 AM

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Yakim Peled wrote:
>> But ... Can you really imagine, Photokina starting, and Canon being asked for news, answers, well, we have come up with a new 400D some weeks ago...?

I cannot. They will have some great news. And my calendar says it will be a new 1 Series camera. Maybe an announcement only, delivery in 2007. But no less.

Chant with me: 3D, 3D, 3D......

A full frame 3D with 16MP and higher frame rate would be great. But rumors on this one have been a bit slower than with the 1 series. I'm chanting with you Yakim...

Sep 03, 2006 at 09:11 AM

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p.47 #12 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

>> A full frame 3D with 16MP and higher frame rate would be great.

Will a 13MP 1.3X do?
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic2/429970/8
:-)

Sep 03, 2006 at 09:19 AM

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p.47 #13 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Yakim Peled wrote:
>> A full frame 3D with 16MP and higher frame rate would be great.

Will a 13MP 1.3X do?
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic2/429970/8
:-)

Why not go for something that does full frame at 17MP and 1.3x at 13MP? That would be superb.

Mark

Sep 03, 2006 at 10:14 AM

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p.47 #14 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

To tell the truth, if this spec is for real, I find the most thrilling part in the AF area and increased dynamic range.

Sep 03, 2006 at 10:25 AM

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joebee wrote:
Atlasman2 wrote:
Canon's basket of goodies was so full they had to let them out in advance!

I think the announcement of the 400D had more to to with responding to Nikon and Sony's moves. Still no reviews out. Hopefully we will see some reviews soon. I am interested in the claim that the s/n matches the 30D.

The 70-200 was a crumb for the current low/mid range body crowd and the 50 for the prime lovers.

I don't think they are done. I don't expect the next announcemnt to have the variety of this one. Hopefully it's aimed a little higher.

If I was the marketing head at Canon, and all I had was the XTi, 70-200mm f4l IS, and 50mm f1.2L—and this was all I had to offer at Photokina—I would save it for the event—they've got more—and I suspect it's full-frame stuf!

Sep 03, 2006 at 12:29 PM

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p.47 #16 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Yakim Peled wrote:
>> A full frame 3D with 16MP and higher frame rate would be great.

Will a 13MP 1.3X do?
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic2/429970/8
:-)
With DIGIC III, the 1.3x crop is dead.

Sep 03, 2006 at 12:34 PM

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p.47 #17 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

If Canon has a DIGIC III-based body, welcome to a new era in digital photography.

Sep 03, 2006 at 12:41 PM

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p.47 #18 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Wow this thread has become a support group.

With several credible posts (including Michael Reichmann's review of the XTi) saying "a friend / rep / trenchcoat-in-a-parking-garage told me NO new one series Canons at Photokina," the mood here has nevertheless swung back to "but, but, but, it must be! we'll get a new camera (pretty please?)"

Sep 03, 2006 at 02:21 PM

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p.47 #19 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Does anybody else find it strange that when you visit the Photokina website>>
http://www.koelnmesse.de/wEnglisch/photokina/

a pop up windo for the July 2005 show in Shanghai opens up?

Anyways what day will the announcement be made? First part of the show? First day? Maybe wait until the first week of October?

I've got my fingers crossed for a 1 series replace ment for the 1DmkIIn or the IDsmkII

Sep 03, 2006 at 05:34 PM

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Tom Conte wrote:
Wow this thread has become a support group.

With several credible posts (including Michael Reichmann's review of the XTi) saying "a friend / rep / trenchcoat-in-a-parking-garage told me NO new one series Canons at Photokina," the mood here has nevertheless swung back to "but, but, but, it must be! we'll get a new camera (pretty please?)"

Actually, Reichmann's is the only one with even remote reliability, and his lacks by being secondhand and from an anonymous source (a reliable report would be an interview of an actual named Canon spokesperson). It smacks of being "rumor-control misinformation."

Before the US engaged in the Iraq war, the Administration appointees kept saying, "we have reports of WMD!" But if you paid attention to the career intelligence officers, they always said, "we don't have any reliable reports...."

Sep 03, 2006 at 08:51 PM

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p.47 #21 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

>> After all, the question is pretty much the same: does Canon have some WMD for us in september

Does WMD stands for "Weapons of Mass Destruction"? If so, how does it relate to Canon? Because of the "Gun"?

http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=WMD&string=exact

Sep 04, 2006 at 08:34 AM

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Yakim Peled wrote:
Does WMD stands for "Weapons of Mass Destruction"? If so, how does it relate to Canon? Because of the "Gun"?

I believe Canon next gear will blow awaay all the competitions.
Camera does not exist without lenses ;-)

Sep 04, 2006 at 10:24 AM

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p.47 #23 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

First: I have no new rumors to add, as someone said eairler "3D, 3D, 3D" would be at the top of my list (FF and 12+MPs).

I just wanted to commet that it really is amazing that a thread this long has not turned into a "urinary olympics" as they so often do, have a look at the 50 1.2 thread for an example. I never understand why people get like that...

Anyway - back on topic - it will certainly be interesting to see what is anounced.

Vann

Sep 04, 2006 at 06:23 PM

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p.47 #24 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

I just emailed my trusted gear supplier asking for any news regarding a 1DM2N body.
I will not mention who they are for obvious reasons.
I can just say this dealer is not located in Portugal.

Here is my email:

Hello **********.

> > Since I have been very happy with the services provided by ******
> > and specially you, I decided to ask for your advice.
> >
> > I just sold my 20d in order to upgrade to a better camera body.
> > I'm thinking about a 1D Mark II N. However, if Canon releases a new body in 1 or two months, I will be very disappointed!
> > Do you know if there will be a new body announced at Photokina?
> > If yes, what will it be?
> >
> > I'm asking because since I sold my 20d I really miss taking photographs,
> and I want a new camera as soon as possible!
> > I just don't know if I should wait for photokina or not.
> >
> > Big thanks in advance from a very happy customer!

And this is their reply:

> Hi Luis!!!
>
> Thanks very much for your e-mail!
>
> It is nice to hear from you again after a while:-)
>
> I got no news that Canon will bringa new model in this price class.
>
> I have all 35 news in my files:-))
>
> So I am sure that the Canon EOS I D Mark II N will be fine for you:-)
>
> I am very sure that there is no need to wait:-))
>
> We do have the Canon EOS D 1 Mark II N on stock available:-)).
>
> We hope this will be helpful for you.
> If you have any further questions please let us know, our
> door is always open for you!
>
> We all wish you and your family a very nice week.
>
> Best regards, ******

Take this with a grain of salt, since they might just be trying to sell me one of the last few 1DM2N they have in stock before a replacement or upgrade is announced and becomes available.

However, I must say that they have always been VERY polite, VERY helpful and I don't have one single bad thing to say about them. Not even one.
They always reply to my emails, on the same day or at the very least on the next working day.
Even if I do find a dealer with lower prices (in fact, I have already found one with slightly lower prices), I will not stop buying from them.
I consider them very trustworthy.
So I really doubt that they would try to fool me.

I already emailed them to ask for news regarding the 5d.
I even asked for the full info on all 35 news, but I doubt they will tell me what they are...

Sep 04, 2006 at 08:42 PM

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p.47 #25 · 'Unofficial' Photokina RUMOR Thread

Luis,

you very specifically asked for a 1D (Mark2N).

The answer is "no new model in this price class".

His answer would be right, even if there was a new 1DS at photokina (and if he knew about that).

A 22 Mpix 1DS3 would be a different camera in a different price point.

Rainer

Sep 04, 2006 at 09:14 PM


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