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MadMike
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p.1 #1 · check this rumor ....

Just read this : http://www.digitalkamera.de/ <-- topmost entry.

A new 1Ds M3 with 22 Megapixel sensor bigger than full frame. Requires special lenses.
When cropped to 12 MP normal ef lenses possible. ISO 6400 and Digic 3 image processor.

Must be a joke ??

Greets Mike

Aug 11, 2006 at 02:33 PM

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p.1 #2 · check this rumor ....

Requires special lenses.
When cropped to 12 MP normal ef lenses possible.

Mmm...that i highly doubt.

Aug 11, 2006 at 02:34 PM

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p.1 #3 · check this rumor ....

Ich glaube dass, das ein Witz war.

(I think that was a joke.)

Thank you VERY much as I speak German, but haven't utilized it in quite some time now (gave me some practice, especially with those wonderful words such as Lichtempfindlichkeitsstufeneinstellungen) - - meaning something such as the "adjustment steps of the light sensitivity" ( ISO)

Nonetheless, when the 20D was first introduced, I first saw the "rumor info" about it on a German site, and it was all 100% valid. Unfortunately, I don't remember the site, but it was a reliable one. This one I can't say much about...

Aug 11, 2006 at 02:48 PM

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p.1 #4 · check this rumor ....

Depending on the price point, this makes quite a bit of sense. They put a camera into your hands that can use all your current lenses (at a lower Mp), but gives you incentive to buy a new line of lenses which they can choose to build or not depending upon how well the body sells.

The size of the sensor is no longer the cost inhibitor that it once was. The sensor would be 22Mp all the time, but the circle of light from a standard EF lens would fall on only 12Mp worth of sensor real estate. The rest is black (0,0,0) and could be cropped automatically by the new processor.

Aug 11, 2006 at 02:50 PM

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p.1 #5 · check this rumor ....

Well the idea of a sensor larger than FF is interesting.

But wouldn't the diameter of the mount have to be larger for the bigger sensor?

Aug 11, 2006 at 02:55 PM

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lexvo wrote:
Well the idea of a sensor larger than FF is interesting.

But wouldn't the diameter of the mount have to be larger for the bigger sensor?

If the current diameter is the smallest size possible for the current sensor size, then yes. I am guessing that it is a bit larger than necessary and that is probably dictating the max sensor size they are considering.

Aug 11, 2006 at 02:58 PM

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p.1 #7 · check this rumor ....

nathanlake wrote:
Depending on the price point, this makes quite a bit of sense. They put a camera into your hands that can use all your current lenses (at a lower Mp), but gives you incentive to buy a new line of lenses which they can choose to build or not depending upon how well the body sells.

The size of the sensor is no longer the cost inhibitor that it once was. The sensor would be 22Mp all the time, but the circle of light from a standard EF lens would fall on only 12Mp worth of sensor real estate. The rest is black (0,0,0) and could be cropped automatically by the new processor.

One additional thought...it would be very easy for the new processor to detect the type of lens that was attached (EF, EF-S, larger) and automatically crop as appropriate.

Aug 11, 2006 at 03:00 PM

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p.1 #8 · check this rumor ....

A larger sensor would require a larger mirror - which would prevent current lenses from getting close enough to achieve infinity focus.

Aug 11, 2006 at 03:07 PM

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p.1 #9 · check this rumor ....

Hands up everyone with a 1Ds II who is prepared to pay for a new camera and throw all your old lenses away?......

Aug 11, 2006 at 03:09 PM

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p.1 #10 · check this rumor ....

I'll calling suspect just on the 12mp with current lens thing. I figure they would stick with at least the same density.

Aug 11, 2006 at 03:13 PM

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p.1 #11 · check this rumor ....

I seriously doubt it.

Aug 11, 2006 at 04:29 PM

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p.1 #12 · check this rumor ....

Can you really see Canon just releasing the new 85/1.2L and then having it not be the preimer lens choice for new 1Ds3 customers? Making a lens line with a larger circle of illumination is a daunting task, and I just don't see Canon interested in doing that for a camera dedicated for such a small pro market. Heck- they won't even put any R&D into a decent wide angle that tens of thousands would already give their eye teeth for.

Aug 11, 2006 at 04:52 PM

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p.1 #13 · check this rumor ....

I believe your eye teeth are those pointy ones a couple over from the very front teeth.

Aug 11, 2006 at 04:57 PM

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Hmmm, let's think about that. First, what would be the benefit of having a larger sensor - isn't medium format just about dead already, killed by 35mm? OK, forgetting that, how about the technological limitations. If making a FF sensor is so expensive and difficult that only canon can do it (and then only on very expensive bodies), why would they push the envelope beyond 36x24? A better question is why they would replace a 36x24 16MP image with a 12MP one? Wouldn't it be more logical for an EF lens user to at least get 16MP images?

I think this "leak" smells.

Aug 11, 2006 at 05:30 PM

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I think more likely the "special lenses" that can take advantage of the 22mp are some of their primes.....35L, maybe a new 50L, 85L, 135l, and possibly a new 200 1.8L at some point. I dont think any of their zooms will be able to take advantage of 22mp, but these primes are much more likely.

Aug 11, 2006 at 05:31 PM

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Why would someone buy this over a current medium format digital back? Sure, you'd get a jack of all trades (sort of), but likely a master of none. I'd rather keep a 35mm digital for when it is appropriate, and a digital back for when it is appropriate (not that I own a digital back).

Russ

Aug 11, 2006 at 05:43 PM

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p.1 #17 · check this rumor ....

ChaseH wrote:
I think more likely the "special lenses" that can take advantage of the 22mp are some of their primes.....35L, maybe a new 50L, 85L, 135l, and possibly a new 200 1.8L at some point. I dont think any of their zooms will be able to take advantage of 22mp, but these primes are much more likely.

That is my theory as well.

Aug 11, 2006 at 06:04 PM

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bouch wrote:
A larger sensor would require a larger mirror - which would prevent current lenses from getting close enough to achieve infinity focus.

I guess they could always implement something like the mirror actually retracts slightly into the camera body.

Aug 11, 2006 at 06:31 PM

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p.1 #19 · check this rumor ....

My salesman at my favorite photo gear shop also told me that the next canon would have a larger than 24x36mm sensor. Though he was kidding, but reading this post, it "could" be true.

Aug 11, 2006 at 06:33 PM

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p.1 #20 · check this rumor ....

This info was posted on DPReview a week or so ago by somebody who supposedly saw/handled the camera. The thread was deleted by the powers that be with no explanation that I know of. Could mean there's something to this (unless of course, the German site got the info from the post over on DPReview!).

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Aug 11, 2006 at 07:01 PM

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p.1 #21 · check this rumor ....

digitlakamera.de is reliable as far as i know. I visit it recently to confirm infomation i get from other sources in the internet because they tend to wait until things are settled. Or maybe they are just slow ? The truth is, i don't know. I'm going to visit Photokina and maybe i'll be wiser

I personally don't think that canon will produce larger format lenses...

Greets Mike

Aug 11, 2006 at 07:23 PM

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p.1 #22 · check this rumor ....

Probably the most interesting rumor to date.

I have no means of buying one, but it would be fun to read about.

Aug 11, 2006 at 07:34 PM

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p.1 #23 · check this rumor ....

large sensor means no possibility to use current EF line lenses

Aug 11, 2006 at 08:25 PM

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p.1 #24 · check this rumor ....

Yeah, this was at dpreview a while ago, and I still don't know what to think of it.

A 36x48mm sensor in a 35mm camera would be pretty strange, since 36x48 gives you an 8x10 dimension (645), while 24x36 gives you the wider 8x12 (35mm) dimension. Maybe Canon is realizing that a DSLR doesn't have to correspond to any specific film format. They're going to make their sensors whatever size they want, dammit!

"Uh, I shoot Canon 35mm digital...no wait, the sensor's pretty big, but....uhhhh....wait...son of a!"

Aug 11, 2006 at 08:50 PM

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p.1 #25 · check this rumor ....

well..if it is true it will surely be a new legend

Aug 11, 2006 at 08:58 PM


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