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mantat
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p.1 #1 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


I bought a 70-200 2.8 a few days ago and so far, I am not really impressed.

I am working mostly at 200mm wide open for my tests at iso200 or 400 and the shutter is always over 200. The problem arise when when I look at the picture at 100%. The image isnt as sharp as I would have expected. Maybe its because I am used to my 50mm 1.8 but still.. I am wondering if I have a defect or if its normal and simply require some PS work.

So could anyone with that zoom post an unprocessed picture taken at 200mm iso 200 of an item with some detail (christmast tree, cat, etc...) so I could do some comparison with my results?

Thanks!



Dec 30, 2005 at 12:57 PM
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p.1 #2 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


The photos coming straight out of camera can be deceiving depending on your settings. Here are few things you want to look at:

1. Shooting in RAW or JPEG.
2. What's your parameter if in JPEG for contrast and sharpness.
3. Was USM applied.

I have this lens (Non-IS) and it's very sharp when I shoot JPEG with default setting of 0 for contrast and sharpness.



Dec 30, 2005 at 01:07 PM
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p.1 #3 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


I always shoot raw, mostly because I always increase the exposure and play a bit with the shadow and contrast. So JPEG arent the most conveniant. Where are these contrast and sharpness settings you talk about? Havent seen them on the camera...

As for the USM, I applied one (setting: 100, radius 3, threshold 2) afterward (even 2 times in a row) and the picture looks ok. But I was expecting better performance right off the camera.

I will post a pic in a moment...

Edited by mantat on Dec 30, 2005 at 01:29 PM GMT



Dec 30, 2005 at 01:21 PM
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p.1 #4 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


Are you shooting handheld? You did not mention it. 1/200 sec could be a bit slow for 200mm especially for a x1.6 camera. See if the sharpness improves at shorter exposures.


Dec 30, 2005 at 01:28 PM
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p.1 #5 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


there is the picture example.

On the left its the original picture straight from the camera, then a USM with 100-3-2 and the last one is with the USM a second time (looks better and a single one when you look at the whole picture)

http://beta004.ubity.ca/tests/donkey.jpg



Dec 30, 2005 at 01:45 PM
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p.1 #6 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


Well, I don't have the 2.8 or the IS version of the 70-200, but my copy of the 70-200 f4 seems very sharp. Here's a center crop:



This was hand held, but the shutter speed was pretty fast.

It's funny because sometimes I'm not satisfied with what I took, but when I come back to this picture, I know my copy is sharp. So it's me to blame!



Dec 30, 2005 at 01:48 PM
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p.1 #7 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


original pic very soft-this lens is sick sharp on any body...methinks a steadier
hand or faster shutter speed will improve your images. Pics should be sharp right out of the camera with no PP.



Dec 30, 2005 at 02:00 PM
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p.1 #8 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


The speed must be at least 1/320(For better resaults 1/500 ).


Dec 30, 2005 at 02:04 PM
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p.1 #9 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


Also, this lens is very sharp for a zoom. But against a sharp prime like the 50, it will likely look a bit soft.

Use a tripod AND faster shutter just to be sure you are looking at softness, not camera shake.



Dec 30, 2005 at 02:08 PM
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p.1 #10 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


forgot to mention, on the previous pic, the shutter speed was 1/800. I know that I need to improve my skill holding the camera with such a heavy lens but still, 1/800 seems fast enough to stop any slight shaking, no?




Dec 30, 2005 at 02:08 PM
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p.1 #11 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


Mantat,

Put this lens on a tripod, and shoot a few shots with mirror lock-up. If the shots are sharp then the lens is fine, and the shooter needs adjusting. If the shots are still blurry, the lens may need adjusting. ;-)

As you use longer lenses the slightest bit of camera shake, can make your shots look blurry. IS helps, but it's not magic.

This lens is usually sharp and images will pop from the page. If you do see it needs calibrating, Canon usually does a good job with their calibrations.

Regards,
Darrell McCombs



Dec 30, 2005 at 02:19 PM
Drioannis
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p.1 #12 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


It is a really sharp zoom lens.You must have sharp images even wide open.Test it in real conditions.Go to a near by park and start shooting(make sure that the light is good).


Dec 30, 2005 at 06:30 PM
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p.1 #13 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


dmccombs wrote:
Mantat,

Put this lens on a tripod, and shoot a few shots with mirror lock-up. If the shots are sharp then the lens is fine.


I could't agree more. I've done this myself many times getting a new lens. You go out and the shots are not "perfect" and I go home and do a battery of tests and low and behold the lenses are just fine. I hear all of these lens calibration horror stories on the forums and it gets me all paranoid. Is my copy sharp? Maybe my copy sucks. I wonder what good copy looks like, etc.etc. Gaaaa... Even the difference between a shot on a tripod with or without mirror lockup can make enough of a difference to make the shot look "soft". So I'd do some more controlled testing before giving up on it.



Dec 30, 2005 at 06:36 PM
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p.1 #14 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


I love mine ,this is one of my first shots..... heres a NP shot jpeg
200mm
2.8
1/125
is0 100

cloudy day





http://www3.telus.net/public/a5a53029/stuff/angel%20S.JPG

Edited by lizardsinep on Dec 31, 2005 at 05:26 PM GMT



Dec 30, 2005 at 07:51 PM
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p.1 #15 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


Big kitty.


Dec 30, 2005 at 07:59 PM
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p.1 #16 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


ooops sorry , its full size


Dec 30, 2005 at 08:10 PM
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p.1 #17 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


lizardsinep wrote:
ooops sorry , its full size


James,
Nice kitty. As some FMers are still on dial-up, we usually limit our picture to 800 pixel as the longer dimension, and keep the file size as small as possible.



Dec 30, 2005 at 09:49 PM
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p.1 #18 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


okay , sure I'll fix it


Dec 31, 2005 at 08:23 PM
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p.1 #19 · how sharp is the 70-200 out the camera


Mine's great right across the whole FL / aperture range.

I often shoot f/2.8 in bright daylight because it's just so sharp and it gives a great DOF.



Jan 01, 2006 at 08:17 AM





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