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p.2 #1 · Just got 5D - REVIEW with pics

On that last picture....On the upper left in the sky...is that dust on the sensor already?!?! I hope not.

Great review and I am actually waiting on mine right now. I think that this camera teamed up with a 20D lets you have best of both worlds for close to the price of a new 1Dmk2N

Sep 27, 2005 at 11:43 PM

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argonaut wrote:
I assume to use the raw + L jpg at 3fps one needs the Sandisk extreme III cards??

I think you'll be able to do this with any CF card. All the images goes first to the buffer. Not sure tough if camera is able to write off buffer at the same time as you take pictures, as there was mention in manual with lower image quality settings you could drive contiunous shots until your CF is full.

I myself use Kingston Elite Pro memory cards, and they run perfectly witi 5D.

Sep 28, 2005 at 05:31 AM

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Rob Eckert wrote:
Wow fancy that, someone who gets one of the hottest new cameras, AND posts some shots taken with the camera. Thanks for your efforts.
Rob

You're all welcome

To make the review was one of the reasons why I was so anxious to have this camera so soon

But also because there's few jobs coming where huge prints are an advantage. (marketing pictures for a company)..

Sep 28, 2005 at 05:33 AM

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hauxon wrote:
Thanks for the mini-review. Images look good. ...But is that vignetting in the graveyard picture? Probably just a shadow... anyway, wish I had loads of money :-) congrats on your new camera.

You mean this image:

Yes, the 35L lens vignets full open (f/1.4). I just shot some test pictures - the image looks almost clear from f/2.0 and above (judging from camera's LCD screen). Well - this could also be good thing for some artistic photos

Edited by Arhi Esansaari on Sep 28, 2005 at 09:05 AM GMT

Sep 28, 2005 at 05:40 AM

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cmalana wrote:
On that last picture....On the upper left in the sky...is that dust on the sensor already?!?! I hope not.

Yes, that's dust. And it was shot with the first lens I ever fitted to the camera. And I made sure everything with the lens was clean. Maybe Canon doesn't assemble these in clean envrioment.

It would have been nice however, if one would not need to clean his/her sensor right away after opening the box.

Sep 28, 2005 at 05:45 AM

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Arhi Esansaari wrote:

Yes, the 35L lens vignets full open (f/1.4). I just shot some test pictures - the image looks almost clear from f/2.0 and above (judging from camera's LCD screen). Well - this could also be good thing for some artistic photos

Well that's bad news for everyone looking forward to get a FF camera to get the most of their all mighty 35L! Wonder if vignetting is going to be a problem with most lenses on a FF when wide open. Vignetting has almost been a non-issue for the 1.6x and 1.3 cameras. If that's the case going FF is just making you use tha bad areas of you glass.

Edited by hauxon on Sep 28, 2005 at 05:45 PM GMT

Sep 28, 2005 at 09:21 AM

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p.2 #7 · Just got 5D - REVIEW with pics

> Well that's bad news for everyone looking forward to get a FF camera to get the most of their all mighty 35L!

It's funny this is mentioned, considering the complaints and knocks on the the Sigma 30 1.4 and 18-50 2.8 vignetting wide open. It happens, deal with it!

Sep 28, 2005 at 09:28 AM

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p.2 #8 · Just got 5D - REVIEW with pics

Hi there --

Thanks for the review -- considering prices in Finland (although much cheaper than Sweden or Norway) you got a good price for that 5D.

I assume you have to process the pics (RAW) with Canon software at the moment as CS2 hasn't (as yet) got RAW conversion.

Has the DPP improved compared with the previous version -- . It might be a while (but hopefully not) before Adobe has an update for the CS2 RAW conversion.

Cheers

-K

Sep 28, 2005 at 09:34 AM

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mjemirzian wrote:
> Well that's bad news for everyone looking forward to get a FF camera to get the most of their all mighty 35L!

It's funny this is mentioned, considering the complaints and knocks on the the Sigma 30 1.4 and 18-50 2.8 vignetting wide open. It happens, deal with it!

35L still performs well when stopped down a little. Or one could shoot graveyard pics full open and have some extra horror tune to pictures with vignetting

Sep 28, 2005 at 10:44 AM

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Kyle Yates wrote:
Thanks for the review -- considering prices in Finland (although much cheaper than Sweden or Norway) you got a good price for that 5D.

I assume you have to process the pics (RAW) with Canon software at the moment as CS2 hasn't (as yet) got RAW conversion.

Has the DPP improved compared with the previous version -- . It might be a while (but hopefully not) before Adobe has an update for the CS2 RAW conversion.

Kyle,

My 5D has a country of origin UK. Just has scandinavian manuals in it.

I haven't used RAW converters yet. Don't want to install Canon softwares, so I have usede RAW+Fine L setting in the camera. Have run JPEG through PS while waiting for C1 to come up with support for this camera. Because of this, I'm sorry I don't know about DPP.

Arhi

Sep 28, 2005 at 10:47 AM

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p.2 #11 · Just got 5D - REVIEW with pics

Yeah I find the 35L need to be stopped down to F2 to get the utmost

Sep 28, 2005 at 11:01 AM

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p.2 #12 · Just got 5D - REVIEW with pics

If I am going to spend the money for a fast wide I personally would like it to work properly. If I have to stop it down why do I need it fast? Isn't one of the main attractions of FF the welcomed return of having lenses behave the way they did on 35mm film bodies? Well, if Canon's lenses had performed liked this on film every reviewer would have killed them and they would be lucky to Fuji's share of the DSLR market today. This is a 35mm lens for goodness sake, not an ultra-wide.

As long as people are so willing to accept poor performance from their lenses (and vignetting qualifies) Canon has no reason to correct the problem.

Sep 28, 2005 at 12:16 PM

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p.2 #13 · Just got 5D - REVIEW with pics

Is it just the 35mm or do other lenses faster than 2.8 vignette on FF?

Sep 28, 2005 at 12:29 PM

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ward1066 wrote:
Is it just the 35mm or do other lenses faster than 2.8 vignette on FF?

The problem is limited to wide angle lenses, and has nothing to do with aperture as such. However, stopping down reduces vignetting when it is present.

Further: It is important to realize that those lenses who vignette on Full Frame sensors also vignette when used on a film body. My EF 20mm 2.8 USM shows severe vignetting both on the FF digital sensor of an 1Ds II and film when I use the EOS 5 film body. The Zeiss Distagon 21mm 2.8 shows very little vignetting on both. If Zeiss can make a good wide angle, Canon can if they truly set their minds to it.

The Zeiss example demonstrates that it is not the sensor size (or film size for that matter) in itself that is at fault. Therefore, the solution to the vignetting is to make better optics - and this has always been the case.

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Sep 28, 2005 at 12:39 PM

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bogatyr wrote:
ward1066 wrote:
Is it just the 35mm or do other lenses faster than 2.8 vignette on FF?

The problem is limited to wide angle lenses, and has nothing to do with aperture as such. However, stopping down reduces vignetting when it is present.

Further: It is important to realize that those lenses who vignette on Full Frame sensors also vignette when used on a film body. My EF 20mm 2.8 USM shows severe vignetting both on the FF digital sensor of an 1Ds II and film when I use the EOS 5 film body. The Zeiss Distagon 21mm 2.8 shows very little vignetting on both. If Zeiss can make a good wide angle, Canon can if they truly set their minds to it.

The Zeiss example demonstrates that it is not the sensor size (or film size for that matter) in itself that is at fault. Therefore, the solution to the vignetting is to make better optics - and this has always been the case.

Bogatyr

Quite true and I hope no one took my comments as a slight on the 5D. The reality is that we buy into a system and that system is only as good as its weakest components. If we have a great FF body it shouldn't be saddled with lenses that don't allow it to fulfill its potential. Yes, we can buy Zeiss optics but doing so eliminates the value of Canon's excellent AF system nad that is a big time loss for many. Sure we can deal with it but as long as we do Canon has no vested interest (loss of income) in correcting a major system flaw.

Sep 28, 2005 at 01:27 PM

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Hrow wrote:
Quite true and I hope no one took my comments as a slight on the 5D. The reality is that we buy into a system and that system is only as good as its weakest components. If we have a great FF body it shouldn't be saddled with lenses that don't allow it to fulfill its potential. Yes, we can buy Zeiss optics but doing so eliminates the value of Canon's excellent AF system nad that is a big time loss for many. Sure we can deal with it but as long as we do Canon has no vested interest (loss of income) in correcting a major system flaw.

Well said. I've avoided Zeiss optics for the hassles associated with them. If I was a landscape photographer I'd probably have a bag full of them; but then landscapes don't move very fast. Everyone wants Canon to make glass as good as Zeiss, I'd settle for Zeiss making some glass to work on a Canon.

Maybe I'll just have to break down and buy a Zeiss lens for the 1DsII, although I think it will take an awful lot of us doing that before Canon does anything.

Sep 28, 2005 at 05:42 PM

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p.2 #17 · Just got 5D - REVIEW with pics

Thank you for the imformative review.

Chris

Sep 28, 2005 at 10:36 PM

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p.2 #18 · Just got 5D - REVIEW with pics

Not true about the only vignette on wide angle... the 85mm f1.2 vignettes on full frame and film as well (when opened up of course).

Sep 28, 2005 at 11:29 PM

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Arhi Esansaari wrote:
Bought if from www.verkkokauppa.com. They got 10 cameras today, and there's 2 of them available right away at the moment for 2898.90 eur inc. VAT!

Edited by Arhi Esansaari on Sep 27, 2005 at 07:02 PM GMT

Wow! Who would have thought that Verkkokauppa has it and even for such a price! It beats some good old German sites, I have used for reference.. Maybe it´s time to start checking their prices for reference...

Thanks for the nice review, btw..

rgds,
Mungo

Sep 29, 2005 at 06:22 AM

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Mungo,

Verkkokauppa.com can be expensive in some other products, suggest you still do the german/US referencing.

Sep 29, 2005 at 07:07 AM

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chris78cpr wrote:
Thank you for the imformative review.

Chris

You're welcome

Sep 29, 2005 at 07:07 AM

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Man, my site has got quite a hit by this review. Yesterday there was 20x more trafic than usually with bandwidth of 5.3GB/day. My site is going to be down tomorrow /late today until the end of month because of this.

So the linked pictures here may appear offline for a while.

Sep 29, 2005 at 07:10 AM

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Pages are offline now. Will be available again on saturday.

Sep 29, 2005 at 09:05 AM

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Arhi Esansaari wrote:
Mungo,

Verkkokauppa.com can be expensive in some other products, suggest you still do the german/US referencing.

I will. It´s just that now I got to factor Verkkokauppa in when making a decicion to purchase..

Sep 29, 2005 at 10:32 AM


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