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p.1 #1 · Camera for my daughter


I made a recent post about my 13 year old daughter getting into photography - more a cute story than anything. She shows potential and is starting to experiment with settings instead of going full auto. She has decided her curent 3X zoom, the crappy view finder, slow focus, battery life, etc is just not cutting it (she came up with all this on her own - just walked up and presented me with a list of what her new camera needed to be).

It is getting serious now and I am thinking through what equipment to buy her. I have years of background in film - cut my teeth developing black and white in my parents basement and ended up with a couple Nikon F series prior to going digital. I tested out digital with the D70 and I am getting ready to buy a D2X. I thought - Perfect....I will get her a couple lenses and give her the D70. It is everything my daughter wants - She loves everything about it other than "Dad - it is so huge and heavy - How am I going to carry this around.

We looked at the D50 - A little smaller but not by much.

We looked at a Rebel XT - Smaller yet, but still bigger than she wants.

Now that she has taken a few pics with the D70, all point and shoots just seem like crap to her.

Any alternatives I am not aware of.

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Sep 27, 2005 at 01:35 PM
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p.1 #2 · Camera for my daughter


The Pentax *istD is even smaller than the D50 if I recall

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Sep 27, 2005 at 01:42 PM
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p.1 #3 · Camera for my daughter


Problem solved - someone at work knew I was looking and brought in their wife's Panasonic FZ20. A reply from another thread also reccomended it. It is a very nice little camera. Small enough to meet my daughters requirements and has all the features/controls that will let me slowly teach her about photography. I went and read the reviews and it looks like the only real issue is noise above ISO 200 (what point and shoot does not have that problem), but it has effective immage stabilization, constant F2.8, and a good flash so she will rarely have to deal with that. I think it will be a nice step from true point and shoot prior to going SLR.

if anybody has any feedback on this camera or any further suggestions....

I am just thrilled to have a common interest with my 13 year old daughter.



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Sep 27, 2005 at 02:06 PM
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p.1 #4 · Camera for my daughter


PM sent

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Sep 27, 2005 at 02:58 PM
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p.1 #5 · Camera for my daughter


I had the FZ10 and realy liked it. The only real problem I found was using the electronic View finder in bright sunlight. Images were great and as noted the f2.8 across the whole zoom was a treat.

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Sep 27, 2005 at 04:33 PM
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p.1 #6 · Camera for my daughter


Maybe get her a super-small camera and a D70, and just cut out one of the lenses.

Different cameras for different situations, as she wont be happy with one for both

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Sep 27, 2005 at 05:24 PM
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p.1 #7 · Camera for my daughter


I am migrating towards two cameras as well - a decent compact point and shoot for general purpose and just letting her use the D70 when she feels she wants/needs it. Maybe get her a 70-300ED or Sigma 18-200 for the D70 and that will be her super zoom combo that she can break out if her purse size point and shoot is not cutting it.

Isn't it funny that we are all facing the same problems regardless of experience/budget.

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Sep 27, 2005 at 05:41 PM
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p.1 #8 · Camera for my daughter


The FZ20 is fantastic. There was someone in the Buy and Sell unloading a new one for $400. You might do a search to see if you can find one. Also I think Dell had them priced pretty good.

I to will recommend the istd or ds and a decent zoom lens. But you can't go wrong with either.

My son loves his camera. He is 3 and we already go out to shoot together. I found a clearance 2mp Casio for 80 bux and he has not looked back.

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Have fun shooting!

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Sep 27, 2005 at 11:08 PM
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p.1 #9 · Camera for my daughter


akreager wrote:
Problem solved - someone at work knew I was looking and brought in their wife's Panasonic FZ20. A reply from another thread also reccomended it. It is a very nice little camera. Small enough to meet my daughters requirements and has all the features/controls that will let me slowly teach her about photography.


I have had the new Panasonic FZ30 for almost a week now, as an adjunct to my F100, and I would recommend the FZ30 over the FZ20. My father-in-law has had the FZ20 for a while now, and he's pleased with the results and flexibility that the FZ-series cameras offer in a lightweight package.

I prefer the FZ30 over the FZ20 for a number of reasons:

a) it has a manual zoom which allows fast and fine control of framing;
b) it has quite fast autofocus, especially in high-speed AF mode;
c) the EVF is quite good, being double the resolution of that on the FZ20;
d) the LCD is also higher resolution than that on the FZ20;
e) the lens does not extend when zooming;
f) it has a flip-out LCD, which is handy sometimes (I usually use the EVF);
g) it can capture a burst of up to 5 images at almost 3 fps;
h) the shutter release seems to be better positioned;
i) it has front and rear control dials;
j) it seems to have a nicer color rendition.

The FZ30 is quite DSLR-like in some respects, while still being quite light and relatively compact.

However, a disadvantage is that the FZ30 does not allow much creative control of depth of field as a result of it having a much smaller sensor than than a DSLR such as the D70. Even with the aperture wide open, the FZ30's depth of field is usually equivalent to about f/16 on your D70, so it's quite considerable. The FZ30's flash seems to default to a 1/30 shutter speed, which is a bit slow for some applications where subject motion is present (I don't think you can alter that, but I could be wrong).

When an external flash is attached, in Program mode the FZ30 defaults to f/4, 1/30 sec and ISO 100. This makes it relatively easy to set up a flash that has its own light sensor to work with the FZ30.

If you already have a D70, then I consider that a camera such as the D50 fitted with a Nikon 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5 lens will offer superior image quality and greater creative control. A relatively inexpensive Nikon 50mm f/1.8 lens would make a nice portrait lens with lots of control of depth of field, more so than the 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5 zoom lens. Other than an SD memory card, there would be commonality with your existing equipment, which is handy, and a proper TTL flash metering capability would also help achieve a high standard of image quality when doing flash photography.

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Witold

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Sep 28, 2005 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #10 · Camera for my daughter


Jeff, is your son even looking through the viewfinder?

It looks like he's just holding up to his forehead!

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Sep 28, 2005 at 02:29 PM
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p.1 #11 · Camera for my daughter


He is probably just imitating his father's technique!!!! I just could not resist that.

Hey - Baby steps. Just getting a three year old boy not to drop it and drag it thru the sand is a big step.

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Sep 28, 2005 at 03:03 PM
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p.1 #12 · Camera for my daughter


akreager wrote:
He is probably just imitating his father's technique!!!! I just could not resist that.

Hey - Baby steps. Just getting a three year old boy not to drop it and drag it thru the sand is a big step.



Yeah

Sep 28, 2005 at 03:06 PM

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