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okcrawler Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #1 · D70s RAW help needed... Hey guys, I'm trying to help a friend out with her D70s, but I've run into a stumbling block. I've been preaching the benefits of shooting RAW, however we cannot get any software to read and convert the files. From everything I've read, my PhotoShop CS (w/ latest Camera raw 2.4) should support the D70. However, when I try to read the file in, PhotoShop crashed and shuts down! The same thing happens with her Nikon software that came with the camera. I've searched everywhere and I've never seen this come up on the boards. Is this a common problem? This is a D70s, is there a difference in the NEF over the D70? Any suggestions? Thanks, Markq Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 12:59 PM

rffffffff Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #2 · D70s RAW help needed... It seems that the D70s file is different than the D70 file, and I have read a few accounts of it not being able to be opened in photoshop, even with CS2 and ACR 3.1. I am not sure what the best solution is right now, and I am not sure why the computer crashed with nikon software, but I would check our bibble and raw shooter essentials in the meantime to see if they can convert the files... I really think this sucks, by the way, for D70s owners. Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 01:05 PM

Jack OBrien Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #3 · D70s RAW help needed... Markq, have you tried Raw Shooter Essentials? If you're running a Windows system, their latest version supports the D70s, and it's free It's a very nice raw converter, fast, and did I mention, free, hehe. You can get it at http://www.pixmantec.com HTH, Jack PS: Get rid of the software that came with the camera. It is horrible at best. Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 01:18 PM

Jack OBrien Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #4 · D70s RAW help needed... Ahh, I see Rob already said raw shooter essentials. Anyway, their stuff works. Jack Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 01:21 PM

fastoys2nv Offline [ X ] p.1 #5 · D70s RAW help needed... I take it that you use the trail version of the software? Is it time based or reduced features? John K Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 01:46 PM

edmanet Offline Buy and Sell: On p.1 #6 · D70s RAW help needed... I've had no problems using Nikon Capture. Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 01:59 PM

sitnspin Online Image Upload: Off p.1 #7 · D70s RAW help needed... Likewise, no problems with Nikon Capture then to PS elements for any tweaks. A side note, not to hi-jack, but I always understood that the Coolwalker wouldn't zoom on NEF files. I find it will on the D70s NEF files, my D100 is a no go as expected. I suspect there must be something different about the D70s file. I just don't know what it is. Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 02:21 PM

okcrawler Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #8 · D70s RAW help needed... Thanks guys. I'll give Raw Shooter Essentials a try tonight. Unfortunatly, she runs on a Mac, so it's might not be the final solution for her.... rffffffff: What is; "I would check our bibble...". Did I miss a FAQ on here or is this on your web site? Thanks again.. Markq Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 02:44 PM

rffffffff Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #9 · D70s RAW help needed... I can see buying nikon capture for a lot of reasons, but for nikon to put a camera out and then expect you to pay an extra hundred bucks for software to look at the pictures really sucks... D2H, D2X, okay, I can see that a little more, but people buying a D70s, at least a large number of them are not going to be pros and arent looking to spend a fortune on that type of stuff... Im glad raw shooter essentials works! Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 02:44 PM

DAllshouse Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #10 · D70s RAW help needed... Maybe RawDeveloper is an option for the Mac. Here's a link: http://www.iridientdigital.com/products/rawdeveloper.html Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 05, 2005 at 05:16 PM

teece Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #11 · D70s RAW help needed... The D70s is my camera, and here's my experience: the Nikon software will read the RAW files (Picture Project, Nikon View, and Nikon Capture). The Nikon software sucks something fierce, at least on a Mac. (Amazingly slow and processor and memory intensive, and lacking in features). Photoshop CS will NOT read the files, with any version of ACR, in my experience. There is a work around.* Photoshop CS2 WILL read the files, IF you update to the latest ACR, AND make sure to install it correctly (I did it wrong the first time, so I know). (The experience with both of these is on the Mac. Don't know if it's any different on the PC). dcraw.c and the myriad of programs derived from it will also read D70s NEF files. *The Photoshop CS workaround: Download the latest version of Adobe DNG Convertor (3.1) and Adobe Camera Raw for CS (2.4). Convert the Nikon D70s NEF files to DNG files with DNG Convertor (NOTE: it must be version 3.1 in order for this to work). Then, use ACR (must be version 2.4) to open the DNG files in Photoshop CS. Hopefully this was helpful. Adobe Camera Raw is really great software for manipulating RAW files, in my experience. Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 06, 2005 at 12:16 AM

1911 Offline Buy and Sell: On p.1 #12 · D70s RAW help needed... Yeah you got problems! D70s raw files do not open in PS CS, only if you upgraded to CS2. And the upgrade for camera raw, 3.1 does not work in PS CS. But it should open with the trial vers of the Nikon Capture. Offcourse this is only 30 days good until ya hafta buy it(100bucks). If you've ever owned a capture version previously, you can upgrade free, but you will have to un-install any older versions first. I recently picked up a D70S as a back-up while my D70 went to Nikon for repair and got the rude awakening upon trying to open my raw in ACR. 1911 Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 10, 2005 at 02:05 AM

1911 Offline Buy and Sell: On p.1 #13 · D70s RAW help needed... Hey Jacko, good comments once again. I agree with ya on the Capture software but for now I gotta go with it cause it's free and ma wife's been counting my downloads lately, ha! But Yeah. I miss ACR though I just cant upgrd to CS2 at the moment. 1911 Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 10, 2005 at 02:10 AM

bibble Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #14 · D70s RAW help needed... Bibble is a raw workflow program for Mac Windows and Linux. The latest 4.3 version includes support for the d70s and d50. You can download a trial version from www.bibblelabs.com. D70s support was borken in the first release, but there is an udpate in the user forums. Eric Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 12, 2005 at 07:40 AM

paperjet Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #15 · D70s RAW help needed... I am using Mac OS 10.4.2, and had the following experience with Photoshop CS2 when upgrading to D70s: I installed Photoshop CameraRaw.plugin v3.1 in both Elements 3 and Photoshop CS2 per specs, and had the following results: - Both D70 and D70s raw (.NEF) files open and process fine in Elements 3. - D70 raw files appear and open as they should in Bridge and CS2. - D70s raw files appear in Bridge but without thumbnails or metadata. - Despite the lack of thumbnails I can open D70s raw files in Photoshop CS2 via Bridge or directly, and edit and "save" after opening (including .dng, which then appears properly in bridge, including the missing metadata!) So it appears to me that Elements works fine with D70s raw files, and that the Photoshop problem is with Bridge rather than CS2 itself. Incidentally, I am also able to open D70s .NEF files in Graphic Converter, though I haven't tried working with them. If someone else had a very different experience I'd be interested in hearing about it. Hope this helps, Greg Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 18, 2005 at 10:00 PM

paperjet Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #16 · D70s RAW help needed... Hey! Hey! I just downloaded and installed the latest Bridge update from Adobe's site (Mac version -- I think it was 1.0.2). I then apparently purged the Bridge cache using Cocktail shareware, and viola! My D70s NEF files now appear in Bridge as they should, including metadata! (They already open in CS2.) For an excellent Adobe CameraRaw installation/troubleshooting explanation, including how to directly clear the Bridge cache, register for Adobe Forums and see http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?13@763.GoMfe8FVVVu.2@.3bb6a869.3bba4cda/0 Greg Edited on Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM Aug 24, 2005 at 07:21 PM

snegron Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #17 · D70s RAW help needed... Any luck with the downloads yet? I have a D70 and a D70s, I shoot RAW (or as Nikon calls it NEF). I noticed that I couldn't read the NEF files of the D70s with the old D70 software on my PC. I loaded the D70s software and it works. Elements 2.0 opens NEF files from my D70 and my D70s. (I know, Elements is an amateur program with very little options, but hey, it works for me for now) Aug 25, 2005 at 01:49 AM

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