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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


Milan Hutera wrote:
True, DPP is shipped with every Canon DSLR for free and can do a lot of the things I mentioned and others as well. But I'm under the impression the discussion was headed in the direction - very little or no PP required with newer cameras.


Mine was the impression of lesser need, than before.

Case in point, maybe with better glass (i.e. new body & new glass for the OP), there is less distortion, CA, etc. that needs correcting.



Dec 31, 2017 at 10:27 PM
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Milan Hutera wrote:
True, DPP is shipped with every Canon DSLR for free and can do a lot of the things I mentioned and others as well. But I'm under the impression the discussion was headed in the direction - very little or no PP required with newer cameras.


My last couple EOS didn't ship with DPP or any other software. You have to be a aware of the availability and need, google, wade through Canon's disorganized web site, type in a serial number and, finally, download Canon's apps. I'm guessing most modern consumers are unaware of Canon's apps since it no longer comes strapped to the camera.



Dec 31, 2017 at 11:02 PM
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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


or when appropriate DLO can be applied in camera.


Dec 31, 2017 at 11:12 PM
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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


I purchase Adobe CC whenever I see it on sale. My monthly cost is under $8. Seems like a bargain to me. I shoot jpegs along with raw on occasion and have used jpegs straight out of the camera many times. But more often, and for all important photos I always work the raw files.


Jan 01, 2018 at 12:07 AM
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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


There are also bags under the flamingos eyes that with a bit of touch-up in Photoshop could make the flamingo look at least two years younger. I think the flamingo would appreciate it.


Jan 01, 2018 at 01:33 AM
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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


Gochugogi wrote:
My last couple EOS didn't ship with DPP or any other software. You have to be a aware of the availability and need, google, wade through Canon's disorganized web site, type in a serial number and, finally, download Canon's apps. I'm guessing most modern consumers are unaware of Canon's apps since it no longer comes strapped to the camera.


I wasn't aware of that since the last camera I bought was in 2012. But that's just Canon's sloppiness. They could easily put a piece of paper with instructions into the box. Bottom line is, the software is free for Canon users.



Jan 01, 2018 at 09:53 AM
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Milan Hutera wrote:
I wasn't aware of that since the last camera I bought was in 2012. But that's just Canon's sloppiness. They could easily put a piece of paper with instructions into the box. Bottom line is, the software is free for Canon users.


If, like me, you don't buy newly released cameras the CD that was in the box is already out of date. But as you say it's all freely downloadable and personally I much prefer PDF manuals to paper ones



Jan 01, 2018 at 09:55 AM
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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


That lion's looking a little grey. It should get out more.


Jan 02, 2018 at 10:23 AM
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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


In spirit of the OP here's a straight out of camera shot with 6D and 70-200is II (converted with Lightroom).

link to original raw https://www.dropbox.com/s/tphqjmdr42271y4/_MG_8335.CR2?dl=0
I have my edit of file, but curious what someone else might do to process it.




Jan 03, 2018 at 06:22 PM
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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


^^^

I wouldn't do too much to this photograph — it works pretty well as it is.

Yet, being devoted to getting the most out of every photograph, both in camera and in post, I might well do a few things in post to make it even stronger.

1. I might use one of several post-processing tools to bring a bit of detail back to the brightest white area on the bird's head. It might be the application of a bit lower "highlights" value in ACR, a particular sort of curve layer that I sometimes use in Photoshop, or possibly a bit of burning in Photoshop.

2. I might well lower the apparent brightness of that bit of metal fence at the bottom, extending toward the camera position. I would like it to be a bit less prominent relative to the darker bird.

3. In one way or another, I would also likely burn down those bright "bars" along the top edge of the frame. Most likely I would clone them out.

4. I might crop a bit tighter.

5. I might vignette the corners just a bit (either with a burning tool or by applying a curve there) in order to bring a bit more visual focus to the bird.

6. I might alter the color balance a bit, though I'd need to see the original raw on my calibrated monitor first.

I'm not implying that all of these things are necessary, just that they reflect ways to "work" even a very nice photograph.

Dan

Edited on Jan 03, 2018 at 09:12 PM · View previous versions



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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


Hi Eric,

I edited the CR2 using LR, PS, Topaz InFocus, Clarity, and Detail, along with a touch of Color Efex Pro 4 Pro Contrast.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Damon







Jan 03, 2018 at 07:20 PM
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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


you just simply proved with your poor corrections you have zero photoshop skills.
A very poor attempt to express an "expert" opinion.



Jan 03, 2018 at 08:00 PM
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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


ngaio wrote:
Hi Eric,

I edited the CR2 using LR, PS, Topaz InFocus, Clarity, and Detail, along with a touch of Color Efex Pro 4 Pro Contrast.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Damon


Ouch!



Jan 03, 2018 at 08:26 PM
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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


snowboarder wrote:
you just simply proved with your poor corrections you have zero photoshop skills.
A very poor attempt to express an "expert" opinion.


You are most welcome to share your own edit, or to explain what you don't like. Perhaps I'll learn something from you. This is a community, not a competition.



Jan 03, 2018 at 08:31 PM
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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


ngaio wrote:
Hi Eric,

I edited the CR2 using LR, PS, Topaz InFocus, Clarity, and Detail, along with a touch of Color Efex Pro 4 Pro Contrast.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Damon


Disregard me for not reading


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Jan 03, 2018 at 08:32 PM
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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


austinschutz wrote:
Editing someone's photos without their permission isn't polite imo.


I agree. But perhaps you missed Eric's post in which he invited others to edit it, and posted a link to the CR2?




Jan 03, 2018 at 08:37 PM
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austinschutz wrote:
Editing someone's photos without their permission isn't polite imo.



It is when they post a link to the RAW file and ask you to...



Jan 03, 2018 at 08:37 PM
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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


Eric Gottesman wrote:
link to original raw https://www.dropbox.com/s/tphqjmdr42271y4/_MG_8335.CR2?dl=0
I have my edit of file, but curious what someone else might do to process it.


Ahem.



Jan 03, 2018 at 09:13 PM
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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


My bad, didn't see that, apologies.


Jan 03, 2018 at 09:20 PM
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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · Thank God..No need those expensive edting software


are you sure this is a RAW image that's linked and not a jpeg to begin with?

Image preview

Basic
Dimensions 2048 × 1368 JPEG
Composite
ImageSize 2048x1368
Megapixels 2.8
File
BitsPerSample 8
ColorComponents 3
EncodingProcess Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
FileType JPEG
FileTypeExtension jpg
ImageHeight 1368
ImageWidth 2048
MIMEType image/jpeg
YCbCrSubSampling YCbCr4:4:4 (1 1)
ICC_Profile



Jan 03, 2018 at 10:34 PM
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