Home · Register · Software · Software · Join Upload & Sell

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
Username  

  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Sony Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3      
4
       end
  

Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!
  
 
bushwacker
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #1 · p.4 #1 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


philip_pj wrote:
Such lenses never shout their excellence at you. Once they get you on their wavelengths, you always notice the lack of what they do.


such as?




Dec 30, 2017 at 12:37 PM
danski0224
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #2 · p.4 #2 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


The 135mm for Canon is back in stock at B&H...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/909189-REG/Zeiss_1999_675_135mm_f_2_0_Apo_Sonnar_ZE.html



Jan 01, 2018 at 12:29 AM
mogud
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #3 · p.4 #3 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


danski0224 wrote:
The 135mm for Canon is back in stock at B&H...

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/909189-REG/Zeiss_1999_675_135mm_f_2_0_Apo_Sonnar_ZE.html


Anyone know whether this is new stock?



Jan 01, 2018 at 03:33 AM
dolina
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #4 · p.4 #4 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


mogud wrote:
Anyone know whether this is new stock?


Yes it is new stock. Just buy it already.



Jan 04, 2018 at 11:26 PM
mogud
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #5 · p.4 #5 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


dolina wrote:
Yes it is new stock. Just buy it already.




Edited on Jan 05, 2018 at 04:49 PM · View previous versions



Jan 05, 2018 at 05:22 AM
wayne seltzer
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #6 · p.4 #6 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


mogud wrote:
Waiting for stock of the Milvus 135 at my local camera store before I decide. Difference in price between the B&H Classic price and the Milvus is minimal for me. Not a fan of buying expensive gear from B&H. Like to support a local business.


Wow, $1000 price difference is minimal



Jan 05, 2018 at 03:49 PM
mogud
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #7 · p.4 #7 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


****deleted****



Edited on Jan 05, 2018 at 04:51 PM · View previous versions



Jan 05, 2018 at 04:20 PM
OntheRez
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #8 · p.4 #8 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


This all reminds me of my girlfriend showing up from shopping and saying, "You'll never guess how much money I saved!" Like all here, I worship great glass, butÖ my devotion has limits.


Jan 05, 2018 at 04:39 PM
wayne seltzer
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #9 · p.4 #9 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


mogud wrote:
****deleted****



Price of classic ze 135 is $1199 and milvus is $2199 here in states at B&H.



Jan 05, 2018 at 08:05 PM
danski0224
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #10 · p.4 #10 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


wayne seltzer wrote:
Wow, $1000 price difference is minimal


For some people, yes. And for others, 100,000.00+ might mean nothing.

Unfortunately, I do not belong to either group.




Jan 05, 2018 at 08:10 PM
 

Search in Used Dept. 

        


Lifeinpictures
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #11 · p.4 #11 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


Is there a difference in the APO Sonnar 135 Classic vs Milvus version?
I owed both at different times unfortunately, so cannot compare.

I sold my classic a few months ago, along with a couple of A7R II bodies to upgrade to the A7R III bodies.

I missed the lens so much that I re-purchased it as a Milvus when Zeiss was running a 15% off that ended on the 24th of December

Edited on Jan 07, 2018 at 04:02 PM · View previous versions



Jan 06, 2018 at 10:00 PM
DannyBurkPhoto
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #12 · p.4 #12 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


Lifeinpictures wrote:
Is there a difference in the APO Sonnar 135 Classic vs Milvus version?
I owed both at different times unfortunately, so cannot compare.

I sold my classic a few months ago, along with a couple of A7R II bodies to upgrade to the A7R III bodies.

I missed the lens so much that I re-purchases it as a Milvus when Zeiss was running a 15% off that ended on the 24th of December


Only the different housing and water-resistance, and the new versions are said to have better coating. And they are even heavier than the "classic" versions. Optically, the 135 is the same.



Jan 06, 2018 at 10:03 PM
philip_pj
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #13 · p.4 #13 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


About 15% heavier, 'new coatings' are an easy upgrade rationale for a lens maker to push at buyers. Anyone looking for more tech assessment might check out this review from hard markers OpticalLimits:

http://photozone.de/nikon_ff/1021-zeisszf13520ff



Jan 07, 2018 at 06:06 AM
mvjasper
Online

Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #14 · p.4 #14 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


I'm new to FM and find this topic timely. My last experience with Zeiss optics was my two Contax G2 bodies and the full set of AF lenses, sold about 10 years ago. This was around the same time I parted with my MF film equipment. I wasn't sure which way to go with digital so I waded into the Fujifilm F-mount world with a couple bodies and half a dozen lenses. The system and I never really hit it off. After years of coming up with reasons why not to go full frame the D850 came along and tipped the scales in Nikon's direction. I'm starting my collection as I did with all my camera ventures, lenses first (using my wife's old but still in service D5000 to quench the urge until the D850 arrives).

The Zeiss lens I miss the most is the 16mm that gave me my most memorable shots. I'll stick with AF lenses for the longer focal lengths, but MF is fine for ultra-wide shooting in my book, which makes the 2.8/15 highly desirable. The current deep discount on the classic would have made this a no question purchase a few years ago, but there's the Milvus to consider. I've read a lot of marketing literature about the Milvus and understand the differences between it and the classic, but would like to ask for a real-world opinion from someone who has used the classic. Are there any shortcomings with the classic made up for by the Milvus? I personally feel the weather-sealed construction is nice, but probably more important for a working pro than an avid amateur. Any other thoughts and considerations will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance,

MV



Jan 11, 2018 at 01:06 PM
jcolwell
Online
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #15 · p.4 #15 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


Hi MV,

Welcome to FM.

mvjasper wrote:
....Are there any shortcomings with the classic made up for by the Milvus?


I use many Classic ZE and older Contax lenses, including; Classic 18/3.5 ZE, 21/2.8 ZE, 25/2 ZE, 35/2 ZE, 50/2 ZE, and 100 ZE. I haven't used any Milvus-equivalent lenses, but comparison of MTF curves and shared experience from other users suggests to me that the only Classic ZE lenses with 'shortcomings' with respect to IQ have new, re-designed lenses in the Milvus series. For example, the Distagon 18/3.5 ZE is a fine lens, but (on 50 MP) not quite as good at the edges, at f/8 and infinity focus, as the TS-E 17/4L (no movements) and EF 16-35/4L IS. The Milvus series includes new designs at 18mm (18/2.8) and 25mm (25/1.4). I expect the new 18mm design was introduced because users expect better edge/corner IQ than the 18/3.5 offers. Comparing Zeiss MTF curves suggests that the 18/2.8 ZE will be noticeably better than the 18/3.5 ZE at the edges/corners, and is probably better than the two Canon lenses I mentioned. Of course, the Milvus 18/2.8 is way bigger and heavier than the Classic 18/3.5.

The new 25/1.4 ZE is probably more of a complement to 25/2 (no Milvus version, yet), than an improved version of the 25/2, as are the 35/1.4 and 50/1.4, with respect to the 35/2 and 50/2.

I have also found (on 50 MP camera, f/8, infinity), the TS-E 24/3.5L II edges out the Classic 25/2 ZE, and at 35mm, the Contax PC-Distagon C/Y (unshifted) is better at the edges than the Classic 35/2 ZE. OTOH, the Classic 50/2 ZE and 100/2 ZE are peerless (except Otus, sort of). I don't think the 25/2 ZE and 35/2 ZE have any particular IQ shortcomings, it's just that some specialist TS and PC lenses exist, that have better IQ at the edges and corners (due to their larger image circles, no doubt). It'll be interesting to see if Zeiss introduces a 25/2 lens with the same optical formula as the Classic (as is the Milvus 35/2 with respect to the Classic 35/2).

I suggest you'll get the best information on the Classic 15/2.8 vs. Milvus 15/2.8, if you start a new thread on this specific topic. I'd post it in the Alt forum and cross-post to Nikon, but I'm not sure if a new FM member can cross-post (procedural rules change over time).

Cjeers,
Jim



Jan 11, 2018 at 02:22 PM
DaveFP
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #16 · p.4 #16 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


jcolwell wrote:
Hi MV,

Welcome to FM.

I use many Classic ZE and older Contax lenses, including; Classic 18/3.5 ZE, 21/2.8 ZE, 25/2 ZE, 35/2 ZE, 50/2 ZE, and 100 ZE. I haven't used any Milvus-equivalent lenses, but comparison of MTF curves and shared experience from other users suggests to me that the only Classic ZE lenses with 'shortcomings' with respect to IQ have new, re-designed lenses in the Milvus series. For example, the Distagon 18/3.5 ZE is a fine lens, but (on 50 MP) not quite as good at the edges, at f/8 and infinity focus, as the TS-E 17/4L (no movements) and
...Show more

Fed Ex will deliver my new 35/2 any minute now. More technically perfect 35s are available but I love the images from this lens.




Jan 11, 2018 at 02:46 PM
Lifeinpictures
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #17 · p.4 #17 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


I had the classic 15mm and now have the Milvus 15 mm.

I feel that the classic is heavier and seemed to have heftier metal construction. It seemed to me that this was the best mechanically constructed lens I had ever used (along with the classic 135 APO). However the major con for this lens was that it had a fixed non removable lens. I donít consider the weatherproofing a major con as you can always use a rain cover if needed.

I unfortunately sold it to fund upgrading my A7R II bodies to the A7R III.

I missed it so much that I purchased the Milvus version a few months later. The Milvus version seem less dense, but looks well constructed too, but with a modern appearance. Zeiss says that this has better weather sealing, but this doesnít really matter to me as I would still use a rain cover in inclement weather.

However, what I did like was the removable metal hood. This really helps using a square or rectangular type filter system as well as 95 mm circular filters . Crucial for landscape.

The classic could use a 95 mm circular filter, but for others you would need a custom filter adapter. This is available from fotodiox and the like.

So if you do get a classic at significant discount over the Milvus, I think thatís something to think about.
I purchased the Milvus because there was a 15% discount on Milvus lenses that ended on 24th December. I also preferred not using the adapter to put my rectangular filters on. It was another thing to carry.
But if the price difference is substantial, thatís something you need to decide.

Zeiss assured me that the optical design is identical but said some BS about new coating. When pressed on that they told be that thereís no difference in performance except for weather sealing in the Milvus


Edited on Jan 11, 2018 at 03:17 PM · View previous versions



Jan 11, 2018 at 03:01 PM
Lifeinpictures
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #18 · p.4 #18 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


I would also consider a used one from B&H, because I think one of them is certainly mine (ZE version), which I have cherished and taken care off

I see they are going for $1650 upwards in excellent condition. Definitely a bargain in my opinion.



Jan 11, 2018 at 03:13 PM
mvjasper
Online

Upload & Sell: Off
p.4 #19 · p.4 #19 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


Thank you for the comments Jim and Liveinpictures. The removable hood is quite nice, but aside from the occasional colored filter for black and white film back in the day, the only filters I ever used were a UV for protection or a circular polarizer, which Zeiss offers. I guess removing a stuck filter might be tricky with the fixed hood.

If $1650 upwards in excellent condition is a bargain, I don't think I can pass up $1899 new!

Thanks again for your insight.



Jan 11, 2018 at 09:28 PM
DannyBurkPhoto
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.4 #20 · p.4 #20 · Zeiss ZE and ZF.2 sale. Save up to $1,151!!!


Yes, you do have to be careful about the filter getting stuck. Mine never has (so far!), but I've heard about others' problems online. It's a marvelous lens, though; the best 15 I've tried.


Jan 11, 2018 at 09:56 PM
1       2       3      
4
       end






FM Forums | Sony Forum | Join Upload & Sell

1       2       3      
4
       end
    
 

You are not logged in. Login or Register

Username     Reset password