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APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L
  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L


Has anybody compared these two combinations with similar sensor resolution?
The extra reach one gets with APS-C combo over FF perhaps evens the real world difference of FF sensor better image quality.
It is also lighter and more affordable but what about AF speed?



Dec 05, 2017 at 08:41 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L


One consistent difference is noise, especially at higher ISO, where the FF camera is better.


Dec 05, 2017 at 09:27 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L


jcolwell wrote:
One consistent difference is noise, especially at higher ISO, where the FF camera is better.


What about other aspects, this one is expected?



Dec 06, 2017 at 08:42 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L


I shot sports with both these scenerios. I really did not see a lot of difference in speed, but there was a significant difference in IQ. The 100 400 II on the 5D IV is so much better that there is really no comparison. When I first got the 5DIV I shot a FB game with the 7DII and 70 300L for the first half and then the 100 400II and 5DIV for the second half. I didn't even consider using any of the 7DII pics and sold it shortly after. Yes, the difference was this much and not even close. I love the 5DIV 100 400 II for daytime sports. For night I switch to the 400 DO II and fully believe the 5DIV gives enough of an improvement that I don't miss the 300 2.8 which I have previously used.


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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L


Kathy White wrote:
I shot sports with both these scenerios. I really did not see a lot of difference in speed, but there was a significant difference in IQ. The 100 400 II on the 5D IV is so much better that there is really no comparison. When I first got the 5DIV I shot a FB game with the 7DII and 70 300L for the first half and then the 100 400II and 5DIV for the second half. I didn't even consider using any of the 7DII pics and sold it shortly after. Yes, the difference was this much and not
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Kathy,

What is your experience with the 400 II DO f/4 and night sports? HS or College field? Would love to dump my load of bricks 400 2.8 for the DO but going to f/4 at very high ISO ( >16,000) so far hasn't provided me acceptable IQ.

Matt



Dec 07, 2017 at 02:04 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L


Thank you, Kathy. It looks that 5DIV is a really great camera. I didn't do an extensive research about it, but haven't find any negative first hand experience about it yet.

Of these two lenses, from the samples online, I find bokeh smoother with the 70-300L. That's for static objects (portraits, flowers and similar). For some reason (to me) 100-400 lenses all generally have relatively harsher bokeh.



Dec 07, 2017 at 09:32 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L


The APS-C combo, especially with a SL1-2 or small xxxD camera will be relatively compact and light. With a xxD (e.g. 80D) or 7D series less so. It will also be notably cheaper.

Your weight and $ savings are balanced against worse ISO and DR.



Dec 08, 2017 at 12:05 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · APS-C + 70-300L vs FF + 100-400L


mirkoc wrote:
Thank you, Kathy. It looks that 5DIV is a really great camera. I didn't do an extensive research about it, but haven't find any negative first hand experience about it yet.

Of these two lenses, from the samples online, I find bokeh smoother with the 70-300L. That's for static objects (portraits, flowers and similar). For some reason (to me) 100-400 lenses all generally have relatively harsher bokeh.




100-400 I or II bokeh is not bad at all considering what it is, especially at 400mm. If you want portrait-quality bokeh, though, any variable aperture zoom would be my last choice.




highdesertmesa 2017

  Canon EOS 5DS R    EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM lens    400mm    f/5.6    1/60s    160 ISO    0.0 EV  





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  Canon EOS 5DS R    EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM lens    400mm    f/5.6    1/320s    1600 ISO    0.0 EV  





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  Canon EOS 5D    EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM lens    400mm    f/5.6    1/80s    100 ISO    -1.0 EV  




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