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rscheffler wrote:
Yes, that's true. Only around 100Ws but that's indoors, of course. As mentioned in another thread, I recently used the ELB/Quadra in the Deep Octa with only the internal diffuser as the main light outdoors for individual, couples and smaller group photos, using the HS capability (with HS head), shooting against late afternoon sun, using the sun as the rim/hair light. For those I was between half and full power at ISO 100 1/2000 f/2 or ISO 100 1/500 f/4.
Yeah gotcha 4.0 (100ws) does not do much against the sun at noon.
Yes that works, but still limited dof and for groups where some more dof might be desired ELB 1200 will give you more freedom
rscheffler wrote:
I think with efficient light modifiers you can get away with 424Ws outdoors, even at some distance. Some guys like the Deep Octa, either 70cm or 100cm as a portable alternative to beauty dishes. I have both Deep Octas and they seem to be good at throwing light a reasonable distance while maintaining pleasing light quality. There are also the Maxi and High Performance reflectors, but I haven't tried them yet.
Sure you can, but again it limits your choice of modifiers. Sometimes you don’t want the hardlight of a MAXI or HP. I like the Deep octas, rarely used them with the front baffle.
I do however prefer the Litemotiv 120 over the DO 100 if have the space.
rscheffler wrote:
I'd love to try the ELB 1200 but for my typical uses it's too high a price point. Obviously there's the benefit of more light, but I think I'd value it more for faster recycling at quarter to half power than the ~2 seconds of the ELB at full power. TBH, I find the on-paper specs of the Profoto D2 500 extremely appealing - very short recycle times, short flash duration and the ability to shoot 3-4 frames at high frame rate when at ~quarter power. But not so crazy about the recessed flash tube, size, weight and price. Of course it also requires wall power (apparently it'll run off a PCB inverter, but at reduced recycle speeds)....Show more →
Yes the ELB 1200 is of course an investment, to me and for how I work it was a no brainer to get them. I agree the recycling is very fast at lower power settings, which is welcome of course.
Profoto is not an option for me, If I were to get something else then Elinchrom it would be Broncolor. Profoto’s recessed tube is dealbreaker and their B1 is not a good design for my location work.
rscheffler wrote:
In the above mentioned outdoor situation I'm pretty sure the AD200 in HSS mode would have been challenged supplying sufficient power and would have quickly triggered the thermal protection within 30-40 shots (I was shooting pretty much as quickly as the pack would recycle for several hundred images). Sticking with Godox, in such a situation you'd be looking at their AD600, but I think it too has a specific thermal protection threshold that may be lower than the ELB 400/Quadra, but I need to double check the specs.
The AD200 is not well suited for modifiers, just like a speedlight you need adapters etc. One benefit is the bare bulb, but still the form factor is more for strobist work then studio work on location. The rear display seems to exposed and easily broken.
rscheffler wrote:
For Greg's possible uses, such as sports portraits, these tend to often be 4-5 light set-ups (key, 2-3 rim/hair lights and maybe on the background too). While you can run a couple heads off an ELB/Quadra pack, keep in mind the power split is asymmetrical and many tend to run one head per pack. It would be a hassle, for example, to run two strip rim lights off one pack if desiring each to provide equal light quality on the subject. Realistically you'd probably be looking at up to four packs: one for key, one each for the strip/rim lights and one could handle both a hair light and background light. For my basic business H&S shots I do a key on a dedicated pack and a second pack handles hair and background. Fill is handled by a reflector....Show more →
I never used two head on one pack to be honest, I use one pack for one head its faster to work with.
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