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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


I'm asking for a friend who has an A7 and wants to take it on her upcoming trip to India. She's a pretty experienced photographer who recently added the Sony to her existing Nikon setup, and is presently using a variable aperture kit lens on the A7. She asked me what primes I would recommend, but I have weird taste and a tolerance for certain "quirks" (e.g., Leica lenses on a TechArt Pro adapter). I don't think her budget could accommodate the Leica M lenses I favor, and I don't think they make much sense for her (or most people) anyway.

She's comfortable with manual focus options but I get the sense that she would prefer decent autofocus. Budget is flexible, but light weight is very important, if not paramount (so no GM or Zony glass, and probably no zooms). What would you guys recommend for someone in her shoes? I have a 55 FE which I find to be very competent (though I can't say I love it) and a Sony 85 FE (which I like, though not as much as my Leica lenses). The contemplated uses would be street photography, some portraiture, and some landscape, so options in the 20-80mm focal length would probably be best.



Nov 08, 2017 at 08:45 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


I think the diminute and inexpensive (particularly second hand) 35mm f2.8 ZA as a start, and nice for the street, unless something wider is required.

Then you have two of the best options to pair it with. You could even loan her them so she could try the pairing.

For manual focus Olympus lenses are small. A FE OM mount then the 50mm f1.8 is good and cheap (shipped as a standard lens), The 85 F2 is a bit more expensive. At the wide end 21mm f2.8, 24mm 3.5 and 28mm F2, there are two or three apertures for each focal length. Unless you get into the extremes of the range 49mm filter is standard.

None of these are big or heavy the 85mm is heaviest at 260g and longest at 60mm.

Want to live in both worlds get a Techart Pro adapter and LM OM adapter, and you can autofocus as well. With 3 adapters and two lenses you would barely get to a kilo in weight or 1k$.

You can do this with many of the old SLR manufacturers but small was an Olympus selling point (guess the A7 took over here).



Nov 08, 2017 at 10:43 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


Sony FE 28/2 or 35/2.8 on the wide end and FE 55/1.8 or 85/1.8 on the normal to tele end.


Nov 08, 2017 at 11:14 AM
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ratherfish wrote:
Sony FE 28/2 or 35/2.8 on the wide end and FE 55/1.8 or 85/1.8 on the normal to tele end.


+1

Personally, if I could only bring two, I'd probably go 28/2 and 55/1.8. If she likes wider, perhaps a Loxia 21 in place of the 28.



Nov 08, 2017 at 11:23 AM
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ratherfish wrote:
Sony FE 28/2 or 35/2.8 on the wide end and FE 55/1.8 or 85/1.8 on the normal to tele end.


Excellent advice!

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Jman13 wrote:
+1
Personally, if I could only bring two, I'd probably go 28/2 and 55/1.8. If she likes wider, perhaps a Loxia 21 in place of the 28.


I would also choose the FE 28/2 and 55/1.8 but, if the pictures that your friend usually makes tend to be more towards the long end, then the FE 35/2.8 and 85/1.8 combo might suit her better.



Nov 08, 2017 at 11:30 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


I want to offer a few others to think about. On the wider end, I would recommend the Basis 25 f/2. It is just a lovely lens and does everything well. On the longer end I would go with the Voigtlander 65 f/2 APO. Both lenses are fantastic, native mount, and not that expensive. They are still pretty small too, and IMO excellent values.
If she feels she has to go smaller, I would modify it with the FE 28 f/2 and the Zeiss ZM 85 f/4, that would make a truly small package and still very good performance. You would need an adapter for the ZM, but it just needs the very small M to E-mount adapter and it adapts very easily.
If she is a bit mechanically inclined she could even go with the ZM 25 f/2.8 plus the front end filter, which paired with the 85 f/4 would make a different and very small kit. I think the ZM 25 f/2.8 would be a nice step up in performance over the 28 f/2 but without much of an increase in price. You are of course trading the convince of a native mount and AF for a bit better performance, however.



Nov 08, 2017 at 12:55 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


Loxia 21 and Loxia 50 Or Zony 55.

The Sony 28 is not that good and a 24/25 is not that wide.

21 and 50 are pretty classic. They work well for me.



Nov 08, 2017 at 01:05 PM
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I'd disagree with the Sony 28 being 'not that good.' It's not a Loxia 21, but it's a very good lens for the price, with reasonable sharpness wide open, very good sharpness stopped down, excellent flare control, etc. It has a good bit of distortion, but it's fairly easily corrected. And best of all, it's light and cheap.

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Nov 08, 2017 at 01:29 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


Jman13 wrote:
+1

Personally, if I could only bring two, I'd probably go 28/2 and 55/1.8. If she likes wider, perhaps a Loxia 21 in place of the 28.


This!

more street/people: 28/2 + 55/1.8
more architecture/landscape: loxia 21/2.8 + nokton 40/1.2 (both MF only)
but both setups works fine for everything.


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Nov 08, 2017 at 01:32 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


I'll add my vote for the 28mm É2 and 85mm É1.8, for a modestly priced autofocus combo.

If the budget can stretch more, I'd personally substitute the 25mm Batis for the 28mm.



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My travel outfit consists of the Batis 25, Sony 35 2.8 and Batis 85. If I were to reduce it to two lenses, it would be the two Batis lenses. However, the 35 2.8 is so light and small, I'd never go without it.


Nov 08, 2017 at 01:50 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


B25 and B85 probably, but depending on how your friend shoots, L21 and Z55 is a great combo as well.


Nov 08, 2017 at 02:49 PM
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Nobody loves the 50 fe


Nov 08, 2017 at 04:28 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


Honestly for travel photography I would take an RX10M4 and an RX100M2 (for when the RX10 is too big).

I love my FF E-mount camera and lenses, but they can't compare to the immediacy of having 24-600 with blazing autofocus available around my neck at a moment's notice or 28-100 in my pocket all the time.

Changing lenses is very slow, and carrying a big bag-o-lenses when walking around a busy street sucks (and is dangerous as well).



Nov 08, 2017 at 04:41 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


I vote for tiny ZA35f2.8, here is a SOOC sample from A7R small jpg setting.







Nov 08, 2017 at 04:48 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


Without any context, if I were to go with only two lenses, they would be the 21mm and 50mm Loxia. They are not autofocus, however, so you may consider them to be non-contenders.

I have to disagree with the post above about the a 24-25mm lens not being "not that wide". I consider the ideal focal length for me a 24mm lens, and would prefer the Loxia as a 24mm rather than 21mm, but I can make do.

I'm not a fan of the 25mm Batis lens. It's large and, well, I hate the aesthetics of that lens line. It does perform well, however, so if you can get past the really ugly design, it is a good option (other than it being a bit large).

Lens choice is so dependent on the type of shooting your friend does, so it's really impossible for people to make recommendations without that context. When I travel, I tend to shoot architecture and landscape images mostly, and relatively little human subjects. However, I like to focus on details in the scene, so I often pull out a longer focal length to use, so I would be shooting with the 50mm a lot, and often would like to go longer. With only two, I'd have to decide where I was going and decide if I should go shorter (wide angle and medium), or longer (medium and longer).

In India, I'd definitely be shooting wide angle, so it's probably the 25mm Batis and an 85mm Sony f1.8 or possibly the 85mm Batis lens for details and portraits.

I don't have any of those lenses specifically, so can't recommend one over the other, but those are the ones I'd be investigating for a trip like that with a pair of fixed lenses.

However, I think I'd go the route of a 24-70 zoom (or probably better, the new 24-105). By the time you factor in the size and weight of those two lenses, you are going to be getting close to a zoom anyway, and probably will be a little more bulk than a smaller zoom.

In fact, for a trip like that, I'd probably go with the 12-24 and the 24-105 as the ideal pairing...


---Michael



Nov 08, 2017 at 04:54 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


She's going to India and bearing in mind your comments on her shooting preferences :
Ask her to pick 2 from my travel kit
Loxia 21 (such an awesome lens), Voigt 35/1.7 (M mount and it works well with the Tech Art if she wants AF), FE55/1.8 or FE85/1.8 (I have the Batis but the FE may suit her budget better and is also an excellent lens). Personally I'd take three (21,35 85) ! Or she could take the Loxia 21 and FE 85 and throw in the FE35/2.8 too since it doesn't weigh anything!



Nov 08, 2017 at 05:07 PM
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If only two, I would take the FE85 1.8 and my old Canon FD 24 1.4 L but then I would leave other stuff behind and add the 55 1.8 and depending on where/what I would do whatever I could to take my larger and heavier Canon 17mm TS-E.

I would certainly stretch to three and for me at least the FD 24 L, 55 1.8 and FE 85 1.8



Nov 08, 2017 at 05:12 PM
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ratherfish wrote:
Sony FE 28/2 or 35/2.8 on the wide end and FE 55/1.8 or 85/1.8 on the normal to tele end.


Absolutely correct. For low light shooting in conditions where you might worry about a pricier lens, I'd consider bringing a cheap manual normal lens like an nFD 50/1.4 or MD 50/1.4. Those have served me well at night. But the 28/2 and an 85/1.8 should be the base lenses of the trip.



Nov 08, 2017 at 05:33 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · A7 II user - 1-2 primes for traveling?


I have traveled with FE 28/FE 55, Batis 25/FE 55 and FE 16-35/FE 55 combos. All are great and the zoom isnít that big.

I preferred the Batis 25 to the FE 28 by some margin. The Batis is big (wide really, not long) but very light.

I would throw the 35/2.8 in the bag for a one lens kit option. It weighs nothing.



Nov 08, 2017 at 06:56 PM
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