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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


I want a Loxia 135/3.2 or 135/3.5. The 85 isn't always long enough and I vastly prefer MF for landscape work.

I know there is a ton of legacy 135, but no exif, and no modern coatings.



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Nov 07, 2017 at 08:16 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


lightskyland wrote:
I want a Loxia 135/3.2 or 135/3.5. The 85 isn't long enough and I vastly prefer MF for landscape work.

I know there is a ton of legacy 135, but no exif, and no modern coatings.



+1

Assuming Sony is going to introduce a native 135/1.8 sometime soon, a 135/3.4 Lox would be greatly welcomed.
Not too big, not too heavy, not too slow, and excellent right from wide open please.

My 135/3.4 APO Telyt is a great lens, but a modern optical design, modern coatings, and native mount (electrical connection to the camera) would be fantastic to have, especially if done similarly to the 85 Lox.



Nov 07, 2017 at 08:31 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


I'll meet some Zeiss people this week. I can always pop the question, but they usually aren't talkative...


Nov 07, 2017 at 08:52 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


Put in a nod for a 100 makro-planar please Philippe


Nov 07, 2017 at 09:34 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


Given there are no Batis and Loxia of exactly the same FL apart from the 85, I doubt this will come for a while.
L28 next, please!!



Nov 07, 2017 at 09:37 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


DavidBM wrote:
Given there are no Batis and Loxia of exactly the same FL apart from the 85, I doubt this will come for a while.
L28 next, please!!


Loxia 28/2 and Loxia 135/3.4 and we are all native!



Nov 07, 2017 at 09:43 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


I hear'ya!


Nov 07, 2017 at 09:50 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


Loxia ZM 35mm 1.4, Loxia 28mm, Batis 28mm. How about some high speed Batis glass.

Loxia is great but I like the direction Sony is going with their AF system.

I wish we had some insight into how much revenue Milvus was producing compared to Batis and Loxia.

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Nov 07, 2017 at 10:46 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


After a lot of reading today, I decided to pick up a used Samyang 135 from Adorama to tide me over until the lens that I really want comes out. At least I wonít be hurting on the image quality front!

Yes, itís about three times as big as I am looking for, but I can live with it for a bit.

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Nov 07, 2017 at 10:49 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


Watch them closely for body language and gesture 'tells' if you were to say:

'I understand that 65-70% of all prime lens sales are in the middle focal lengths, from around 28mm to 55mm.'

Most people are not good at hiding what they know, if given a little pause in the conversation space.
'A tell in poker is a change in a player's behavior or demeanor that is claimed by some to give clues to that player's assessment of their hand. A player gains an advantage if they observe and understand the meaning of another player's tell'.

The very last thing 'Zeiss on Sony' users need is a one percenter 135mm lens, given the abundance of high quality 135mm lenses on the market, from golden oldies (Canon, Sony) to modern (Sigma, Zeiss Batis, Zeiss 135/2 APO), soon Sony GM most likely - a glut in other words.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


I still want a Loxia 180. Don't care much about the aperture to be honest. Just a modern release of the old contax design.


Nov 07, 2017 at 11:08 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


The very last thing 'Zeiss on Sony' users need is a one percenter 135mm lens, given the abundance of high quality 135mm lenses on the market, from golden oldies (Canon, Sony) to modern (Sigma, Zeiss Batis, Zeiss 135/2 APO), soon Sony GM most likely - a glut in other words.

All Zeiss makes is lenses for the 1% of photographers who really care about lens image quality and excellent manual controls and are willing to pay a premium price for that.

The old lenses have old coatings, are less sharp than the Loxias, require adapters, and don't have exif.

The new lenses are all big, or are autofocus (and often big as well).

I really dislike using lenses without exif, as I have no easy way to determine which photographs were taken with which lens, which aperture. Additionally, I don't get lens profile auto-loading. The Laowa 15 is a great lens, but I sure wish it were made by CV (would love the 10 aperture blades too).



Nov 09, 2017 at 12:19 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


I still want a Loxia 180. Don't care much about the aperture to be honest. Just a modern release of the old contax design.

That would be next on my list too.



Nov 09, 2017 at 12:20 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


davewolfs wrote:
Loxia ZM 35mm 1.4


I would love a Loxia 35/1.4 ZM. My 35ZM is my favorite lens, but getting one with a native mount and no mid-field dip would be even better.



Nov 09, 2017 at 01:03 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


I'd sacrifice a Leica 280 APO for a Zeiss 400mm APO.


Nov 09, 2017 at 04:37 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


My five cents as a poor man with equally poor eyesight :
Iíd settle for a Sony FE 135/2.8 as good, small(ish) and affordable as the FE 85/1.8.



Nov 09, 2017 at 05:32 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


Having been to Salon de la Photo, and without violating the confidentiality of what was said, I can say that I very much doubt that a Loxia 135 f:2.8 is in the works. This not because of what Zeiss told me, but because our conversation was on such a different track that this possibility wasn't even raised. That said, they are bright people, open to new ideas, and with exciting products in the pipeline. Including Loxia.


Nov 10, 2017 at 06:05 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


Letís play a game. Who in this thread was closest to what we might be seeing next 😃

philber wrote:
Having been to Salon de la Photo, and without violating the confidentiality of what was said, I can say that I very much doubt that a Loxia 135 f:2.8 is in the works. This not because of what Zeiss told me, but because our conversation was on such a different track that this possibility wasn't even raised. That said, they are bright people, open to new ideas, and with exciting products in the pipeline. Including Loxia.




Nov 10, 2017 at 11:48 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


Iím pretty dang happy with my Batis 135 and in these longer focal lengths I lean more towards AF anyway. A Loxia 28 is whatís needed and a Batis 35 F2


Nov 10, 2017 at 12:01 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · All I want for Christmas is a Loxia 135...


Iíd be happy with a 35MM batis that had the same MTF curve as the 35MM ZF.2 f/2.

GMPhotography wrote:
Iím pretty dang happy with my Batis 135 and in these longer focal lengths I lean more towards AF anyway. A Loxia 28 is whatís needed and a Batis 35 F2




Nov 10, 2017 at 12:14 PM
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