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cameron12x
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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


Darn, and I missed out on the 15% refurbished sale on the 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 II this past week.

It sounds like a great lens for my kit regardless of whether I would use it for AP.



Oct 31, 2017 at 04:44 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


The 400mm f5.6 was my most used lens for 10 years.

I also did not use them side by side. But the 100-400 II seems just as sharp wide open, and to focus just as fast as the prime. The 4 stop IS works quickly and makes a big difference expecially for non-panning shots.

Impressive zoom; and I am not a zoom fan.



Oct 31, 2017 at 03:08 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


I tried out the 100-400 II lens a while ago shortly after it came out. I was very impressed with it, even though it was a beast. Great IQ and the IS was solid. Definitely my next purchase when I'm ready.


Oct 31, 2017 at 08:53 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


I think that I'm going to keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens.

It has a niche and a lot of nice attributes that won't go away (light weight, fast focus, and very sharp).

I will also purchase the 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 II lens when another good opportunity arises.

The astrophotography question still remains, but it's better suited for a different forum (e.g. Cloudy Nights).

Thanks for all of the input... Much appreciated!



Nov 01, 2017 at 12:36 AM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


ggreene wrote:
I've got a price watch notification on the 400DO II and they have not been in stock for quite some time. In fact, none of the more expensive primes have been in stock for a while. They used to pop up occasionally but Canon seems to have run dry lately.



They currently show in stock at a few stores on CPW's Street Price page. I've had mine for about 1/1/2 yrs now, but had to wait months before it came in.



Nov 01, 2017 at 01:59 AM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


I have version 1 of 500 mm DO. I also have the 400F5.6. And 100-400 version 2. The 100-400 gets used a ton of time. The other two hardly get any use. So my vote would be for 100-400 by far.


Nov 01, 2017 at 06:51 AM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


How would a mirrorless camera with body IS deal with a 400 5.6 with a right adapter (AF and IS)?


Nov 01, 2017 at 09:06 AM
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David Garcia wrote:
They currently show in stock at a few stores on CPW's Street Price page. I've had mine for about 1/1/2 yrs now, but had to wait months before it came in.


You're paying full price though. The OP was looking for a 400/4 without spending $7000. The refurb store has had them for as low as $4700 in the past.



Nov 01, 2017 at 11:25 AM
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mirkoc wrote:
How would a mirrorless camera with body IS deal with a 400 5.6 with a right adapter (AF and IS)?


That is an excellent question. Perhaps "very well."

ggreene wrote:
You're paying full price though. The OP was looking for a 400/4 without spending $7000. The refurb store has had them for as low as $4700 in the past.

Inasmuch as I'd love V2 of the 400mm f/4 DO, even as low as $4700 for a refurbished one it's a non-starter at that price point.

That kind of money would be better spent on an excellent GPS equatorial telescope mount, a very good OTA, a guide scope, software, and all the rest.



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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


You mentioned that may get a 5DIV soon. The 100-400II pairs very well with it.
In most cases you can increase the ISO to make up for the slower speed of the lens.



Nov 03, 2017 at 02:31 AM
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I have had my 400 f5.6 for 13 years, or more, and use it often. It is tack sharp on all my bodies in those 13 years. I will keep it.


Nov 04, 2017 at 12:25 PM
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I think you should keep your 400/5.6. Sounds like it's worked well for you.


Nov 06, 2017 at 01:21 AM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


rattlebonez wrote:
The 400mm f5.6 was my most used lens for 10 years.

I also did not use them side by side. But the 100-400 II seems just as sharp wide open, and to focus just as fast as the prime. The 4 stop IS works quickly and makes a big difference expecially for non-panning shots.

Impressive zoom; and I am not a zoom fan.


I could have sworn that I was considering selling my EF 400mm F/5.6 a couple of years ago and getting the new 100-400mm and everyone here kept arguing how the 400mm is still sharper than either EF 100-400mm versions. I still use it all the time and get sharp photos with it, so in the end I'm glad that I didn't get rid of it, but I do see some really sharp photos in the wildlife forum using the 100-400mm II.

Have there been professional tests to compare the two in sharpness?



Nov 06, 2017 at 02:32 AM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


I had a challenging opportunity this spring and early summer of shooting burrowing owls from my ground blinds. Trying to shoot flight with quick, little, unpredictable bird through a small opening is quite challenging.

For most static shots, I would use the 500f/4 and it proved to also be the best for flight if the birds were at 40 yards or further. The 400f/5.6 was really nice from 20-40 yards with a fast acquisition and this is the lightest, easiest lens to hold on moving birds.

When the birds were closer or being totally unpredictable, the 100-400II was ideal. One it locks on, you can even zoom while shooting and it will still track focus. Over a period of a few months, I moved the blinds closer to the burrows and ended up with one at 15 yards and one at 17 yards. This is when the 100-400II really was the only choice for trying to catch flight. Most birds give little telltale signs when they are about to launch but Burrowing owls really don't. If you watch their eyes, you can tell when they are tracking a flying insect but they launch really fast.

I must have switched between the three lenses about a hundred times. I sometimes would have the 400f/5.6 on one body and the 100-400II on the other body. The 100-400II is as good as everyone claims but the 400f/5.6 still a bit more manageable and better balanced and under certain circumstances is my first choice for BIF.





























Nov 06, 2017 at 05:04 AM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


I was going to ask what would be wrong with a V1 400 2.8 IS but the cost would likely be a limiting factor. Cheapest I have seen a good condition one for on the forums was roughly $3-$3,500. I just picked up a 300 2.8 for cheap but with the knowledge that Canon no longer services the lenses.

So in this instance I would vote for a 100-400 V2

<edit> There is a 400 DO listed right now in the sale area fro $2,300 http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1514945/0?keyword=300#14233864



Nov 06, 2017 at 08:03 PM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


Hi Cameron 12x I have a original 400DO for sale. You can call me at 917-714-3222 if you would like to chat about it. Send me an e-mail at [email protected] and I will send you some sample images.

www.jimlevisonphoto.com





Nov 06, 2017 at 11:14 PM
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flyfoto wrote:
Hi Cameron 12x I have a original 400DO for sale. You can call me at 917-714-3222 if you would like to chat about it. Send me an e-mail at [email protected] and I will send you some sample images.


Thanks for reaching out. I have decided to keep the lens. Please see my post above.




Nov 07, 2017 at 12:20 AM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Should I keep my 400mm f/5.6L lens?


Good luck, keep me in mind if you change your mind down the road.


Nov 07, 2017 at 12:47 AM
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