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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated, what changes are likely?

Anyone using this lens on a D850?



Oct 27, 2017 at 05:42 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


Just sold mine, E is the obvious choice. If you asked me 4 years ago... I'd have said they couldn't improve the lens... that was before I tried/owned the Nikon 105mm 1.4E and 70-200 2.8E.

Using those lenses as my guide, my assumption is the lens is a bit sharper in the middle of its range, sharper all around and slightly better aberration control.

That being said, this was already a stellar piece of glass!



Oct 27, 2017 at 06:00 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


Obvious change will be higher price!


Oct 27, 2017 at 06:21 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


Probably not rational, but I am hoping we see an update. I suppose my desire for wanting to see an update is just driven by the age of the current unit, and the new 850 being quite demanding. So we shall see!


Oct 27, 2017 at 06:53 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


100% rational... the current lens is 10 years old, the only "holy trinity" not updated. My guess is it's replaced in the next 18 months.

ATX353 wrote:
Probably not rational, but I am hoping we see an update. I suppose my desire for wanting to see an update is just driven by the age of the current unit, and the new 850 being quite demanding. So we shall see!




Oct 27, 2017 at 06:55 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


I'd rather see an update to the 16-35mm from f4 to f2.8 +weathersealing myself...not that I could afford said beast.


Oct 27, 2017 at 07:06 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


josh paris wrote:
I'd rather see an update to the 16-35mm from f4 to f2.8 +weathersealing myself...not that I could afford said beast.


This is what I want for years now!
I even consider going the sony solution - the new 16-35mm 2.8 seems being amazing and
the weight of that thing is quite low. Would be the perfect lens for hiking/ landscape shooting with
a light kit.
Regarding the 14-24mm - not sure if they just update this one or replace it with something new, which has a
slightly different approach, perhaps a bit bigger range from either 14-28mm ( which I would prefer) or even more
wide-angle, so 12-20mm (2.8), which would also be unique.
In any case - they should come up with something new very soon, lenses are quite equally important as bodies and
the mirrorless FF will be as important or even more important a step for Nikon as the d850 is and so will be new lenses!



Oct 27, 2017 at 07:31 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


As much as I'd love to see an update 14-24 to the E version with VR, I'd rather see an updated 16-35 at f/2.8 in the E variant and with VR. That would be a killer lens combo with the rest of the trinity.

Shooting weddings with the 14-24 just isn't that useful, rarely would I go as wide as 14, but being to go wide at 16 and get into a 35 2.8 is a super versatile zoom range.



Oct 27, 2017 at 01:46 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


I had the 14-24 for a number of years, it replaced my 15mm 3.5 AIS. But like the 15mm 3.5, I did not use it that much due to the exposed front element and not being able to employ my standard 77mm filter set. After awhile it also was sensitive to how it was pointed. One the the last jobs I shot on it was for a NYT article on fracking in which I shot low light aerials. I discovered that the weight of the giant front element when pointed downward had caused the lens to become a bit off kilter, causing softer corners on the bottom of the frame than the top.

So when the zoom started to get stiffer, I sold it because we all know when it seizes that is a $600++ job from Nikon to get it fixed, design flaw.

What I need and simply can not find is a replacement for my 17-35 that is sharp in the corners by F8-F11. In fact, my 20 year old 17-35 has easily beat out the newer 16-35 F4 and the 18-35 3.5-4.5, those are crap in the corners.

I'd take a 18-30mm F4 VR if it were stellar in the corners at every zoom setting from 5.6 on but Nikon won't make that because the amateur set seems to think that having a 14-50mm F2 VRIII that needs 95mm filters and weighs 7 pounds is the way to go.

It's amazing that we can get cameras like the D850 but not a wide angle zoom that puts the emphasis on sharpness rather than a speed or zoom range that gets the internet forums squirming.



Oct 27, 2017 at 04:30 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


gpelpel wrote:
Obvious change will be higher price!


True. However, price is not a performance attribute.




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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


So, is anyone hesitant to purchase the 14-24 right now? If so, what are you using in the mean time to get by? Nikon 20 f/1.8/Tamron 15-30?


Oct 29, 2017 at 05:23 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


The price of the 14-24 is fairly low and the replacement will be substantially more expensive, so I wouldn't worry about buying one. Imagine if they replaced the front element with fluorite - it would save a lot of weight, but it would probably make it a $3000 lens at least.


Oct 29, 2017 at 05:47 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


As Joefoo stated, the price is so low you can't go wrong! If you're me, and you're an idiot that spend $2800 for a 70-200 2.8E VS $1200 used for a 70-200 VRII, because you always want the best... wait. If you're the type that doesn't mind having a lens that's 95% the new lens for way cheaper, I'd bite on the 14-24! Make sure it's smooth when zooming in/out and I'd avoid one that had the front hood destroyed by ill fitting front cap.

Sold mine (mint condition and sorely missed) and thought it was a fabulous lens. I sold mine as 14-24 is a focal length I'm not clicking with at the moment (went through a faze about 10 years ago where I LOVED ultra wide).

Best luck! Happy to answer any questions you may have.

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So, is anyone hesitant to purchase the 14-24 right now? If so, what are you using in the mean time to get by? Nikon 20 f/1.8/Tamron 15-30?




Oct 29, 2017 at 06:21 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


The 14-24 is very much a specialty lens and is still a stellar performer in the 14-18 range, so it seems to me Nikon would be smarter to put its development resources behind a 16-35 f2.8E, as has been mentioned.


Oct 29, 2017 at 01:09 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


Gary Irwin wrote:
The 14-24 is very much a specialty lens and is still a stellar performer in the 14-18 range, so it seems to me Nikon would be smarter to put its development resources behind a 16-35 f2.8E, as has been mentioned.


Seems to me Nikon would be smarter to not always feel like they have to completely sacrifice optical performance to always hit both the larger zoom range and faster apertures. If they make a 2.3 pound 16-35E that still suffers in the corners after having put out a camera like the D850, I just donít see the point.

How about we put optical perfection over big apertures and zoom ranges for once guys!




Oct 29, 2017 at 03:05 PM
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Ai_Print wrote:
Seems to me Nikon would be smarter to not always feel like they have to completely sacrifice optical performance to always hit both the larger zoom range and faster apertures. If they make a 2.3 pound 16-35E that still suffers in the corners after having put out a camera like the D850, I just donít see the point.

How about we put optical perfection over big apertures and zoom ranges for once guys!



It is called a prime. You will never get optical perfection from a zoom. There are always compromises.



Oct 29, 2017 at 03:17 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


Total number of Nikon employees 25,415

Total number of Canon employees 191,889

Total number of Sony employees 128,400


If Nikon were to chase all the tails trying to wag the dog provided by DP Review or Fred Miranda, they would get nothing done. They have limited resources, which is actually one of their strengths IMO as long as they keep doing what they're doing.

14-24mm is about the last lens Nikon needs to worry about. As stated above, it's a specialty lens.



Oct 29, 2017 at 03:27 PM
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gdsf2 wrote:
It is called a prime. You will never get optical perfection from a zoom. There are always compromises.


I have primes. The optical quality would be vastly improved if lens makers did not try to always hit giant zoom ranges and fast apertures. Leicaís Tri-Elmar is proof of this.




Oct 29, 2017 at 03:29 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · If the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED us updated...


Ai_Print wrote:
Seems to me Nikon would be smarter to not always feel like they have to completely sacrifice optical performance to always hit both the larger zoom range and faster apertures. If they make a 2.3 pound 16-35E that still suffers in the corners after having put out a camera like the D850, I just donít see the point.

How about we put optical perfection over big apertures and zoom ranges for once guys!



Well of course I don't expect a wide-angle f2.8 zoom to be sharp across the frame @f2.8 but I'd be happy if it was sharp in the centre at f2.8 and sharp across the frame at f4 or even f5.6. Nikon didn't do a bad job with the difficult 24-70E which is almost a 3x zoom range, so I think a 2x zoom 16-35 is doable, keeping in mind such a lens would never replace a dedicated prime for specific duties. It's going to be a lot larger and heavier than a prime anyway so may as well make it fast too.



Oct 29, 2017 at 05:24 PM
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Gary Irwin wrote:
Well of course I don't expect a wide-angle f2.8 zoom to be sharp across the frame @f2.8@ but I'd be happy if it was sharp in the centre at f2.8 and sharp across the frame at f4 or even f5.6. Nikon didn't do a bad job with the difficult 24-70E which is almost a 3x zoom range, so I think a 2x zoom 16-35 is doable, keeping in mind such a lens would never replace a dedicated prime for specific duties. It's going to be a lot larger and heavier than a prime anyway so may as well make
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I'd pay $3,000 for the lens I want ( 18-30 or 20-35 F4 VR w/ 77mm filter threads that is near flawless in the corners by 5.6 ) and zero for the lens you want. The amateur set seems hell bent on big zoom ranges with fast speeds and giant filter sizes regardless of what the corners look like. It's truly a drag that it goes this way and does not have to.

If Nikon would just limit the zoom range, max aperture to F3.5 or 4.0 it would be entirely possible to make a zoom that is as sharp as a prime and not need to be ginormous.



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