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Official: Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton for $1,059
  
 
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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Official: Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton for $1,059


I ordered both today. Lol.


Oct 11, 2017 at 01:35 AM
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Looking forward to Fred's test results and other new owners' findings!


Oct 11, 2017 at 01:39 AM
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It does have some sweet, sweet bokeh in some circs..






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Oct 11, 2017 at 01:46 AM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Official: Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton for $1,059


Pretty good 3D in that shot!


Oct 11, 2017 at 01:49 AM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Official: Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton for $1,059


DavidBM wrote:
It does have some sweet, sweet bokeh in some circs..


Very nice David.
Your Labradoodle has more "Poodle" than mine.



Oct 11, 2017 at 01:52 AM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Official: Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton for $1,059


BTW: From David's tests I already know what to expect from this lens. I merely wanted to confirm the infinity performance and compare it to the Ultron 35/1.7.


Oct 11, 2017 at 01:53 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
BTW: From David's tests I already know what to expect from this lens. I merely wanted to confirm the infinity performance and compare it to the Ultron 35/1.7.


And that's something I really would like to know, never having used the Ultron.
If this lens is in the same ballpark at f 1.7 as the ultron, and as good stopped down then I'll likely keep it.
I just don't know how the residual field curvature of the ultron+front filter compares with the FC I've found on the 40.



Oct 11, 2017 at 02:08 AM
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I have the Ultron but no PCX filter on it. I wanted something like the Ultron that's more optimized for Sony sensor with much less FC (without filters), and the 40/1.2 met my expectations there. I'm also delighted with the flare resistance on the 40/1.2 for low light city shooting (which is also a strong point with the Ultron).

For handling I actually much prefer the 40/1.2, I have never really come to like the narrow curly focus ring on Ultron 35/1.7 (VM) and Nokton 50/1.5 (VM) as much as the rings that e.g. 40/1.2 and 35/1.2 have.



Oct 11, 2017 at 02:19 AM
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Juha Kannisto wrote:
I have the Ultron but no PCX filter on it. I wanted something like the Ultron that's more optimized for Sony sensor with much less FC (without filters), and the 40/1.2 met my expectations there. I'm also delighted with the flare resistance on the 40/1.2 for low light city shooting (which is also a strong point with the Ultron).

For handling I actually much prefer the 40/1.2, I have never really come to like the narrow curly focus ring on Ultron 35/1.7 (VM) and Nokton 50/1.5 (VM) as much as the rings that e.g. 40/1.2 and 35/1.2 have.


Yes the flare resistance is surprsinsingly impressive for an f1.2 lens...



Oct 11, 2017 at 02:21 AM
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DavidBM wrote:
Yes the flare resistance is surprsinsingly impressive for an f1.2 lens...


Yeah, I think it's clearly more flare resistant than the 65/2 too. I like to do a lot of low light city lights shooting especially in the winter season and there the Ultron would have been excellent except for the FC. I had to close it down to f8 or so to get really nice across the frame results and that required too slow shutter speeds (I want to stay as low on iso as possible). A lens that works for the same type of shooting with good results across the frame at f4 or even at f2.8 will be optimal. Probably could be done with the Ultron and the PCX but I didn't feel like going for such workarounds, especially since the filter is not enough but adapter also needs to be extra thin.

Also the nice Voigtlšnder sunstars really shine in this type of shooting.



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Okay some thoughts on choices of having a kit that can do several things. I have not ruled this lens out yet . Reason why itís about look . Right now I have the Laowa 15. Which is killer nice, than I have the Loxia 21 Great sunstars and also great little look. Now here is where things get interesting I have the CV 28 Ultron and the Cv 35 1.7 . By the end of the week they will both have a PCX so letís say these two lenses are perfect proformers as a par and I can already guess the 28 maybe the better landscape lens. So here I sit with a 15,21,28 outstanding landscape lenses( letís assume Iím correct on the 28 for now) now here comes the rub. The 35 1.7 is also one extremely sharp on center and mid frame lens that rivals the 65 APO on center. Than having the 65 and Batis 135 I have a kit to beat the band but that 40 might just break the ubber outstanding look and give me actually a even more character lens. So the intrigue is interesting on picking a set of glass that can just do about anything. So itís something seriously to think about. I tend to like the 35/40 for more people type stuff. So have to see if this fits in the mix. But I hate onion rings so Iím just not sure.


Oct 11, 2017 at 03:06 AM
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Juha Kannisto wrote:
Yeah, I think it's clearly more flare resistant than the 65/2 too. I like to do a lot of low light city lights shooting especially in the winter season and there the Ultron would have been excellent except for the FC. I had to close it down to f8 or so to get really nice across the frame results and that required too slow shutter speeds (I want to stay as low on iso as possible). A lens that works for the same type of shooting with good results across the frame at f4 or even at f2.8 will
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Honestly I would not use the CV 35/1.7 on the Sony without the PCX. It's true that the corners are ok by f/8 or f/11 but it's night and day with the front lens where they are already great at f/5.6. It's definitely worth the $100 investment...
Plus it acts as a front lens protector.

I've tested the 35/1.7 vs Loxia 35/2 for flare and the former has better flare resistance. IMO, the 35/1.7's strong points are: very high resolution from wide open at center and a strong mid-field by f/2.8 along with great flare resistance. Let's see how these lenses compare.
If the CV 40/1.2 matches the 35/1.7 Ultron @ f/1.7 at center, it's amazing.



Oct 11, 2017 at 03:10 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Honestly I would not use the CV 35/1.7 on the Sony without the PCX. It's true that the corners are ok by f/8 or f/11 but it's night and day with the front lens where they are already great at f/5.6. It's definitely worth the $100 investment...
Plus it acts as a front lens protector.

I've tested the 35/1.7 vs Loxia 35/2 for flare and the former has better flare resistance. IMO, the 35/1.7's strong points are: very high resolution from wide open at center and a strong mid-field by f/2.8 along with great flare resistance. Let's see how these
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OK, I may have to look into the filter solution to make my 35/1.7 better too, but I'm a bit reluctant to get a new adapter too (I prefer to use this with my CV close focus adapter or Rayqual adapter with manual focus, and those are not going to work, while they are both very high quality adapters). I understand it could probably work with TAP but I'm not so eager to use TAP on regular basis.

I'll at least wait & see how it compares to 40/1.2 in your test first



Oct 11, 2017 at 03:37 AM
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I need to take apart my VME close focus adapter to see if I can adjust the hard stop to allow it to go a bit past infinity.


Oct 11, 2017 at 03:38 AM
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We really need to find out if these adapters like the Hawks/VC can be adjusted for infinity. That is something no one has figured out yet. Love to get my 28 to focus a little closer myself


Oct 11, 2017 at 03:40 AM
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Juha Kannisto wrote:
OK, I may have to look into the filter solution to make my 35/1.7 better too, but I'm a bit reluctant to get a new adapter too (I prefer to use this with my CV close focus adapter or Rayqual adapter with manual focus, and those are not going to work, while they are both very high quality adapters). I understand it could probably work with TAP but I'm not so eager to use TAP on regular basis.

I'll at least wait & see how it compares to 40/1.2 in your test first


You won't be able to use the Hawks or your adapters on it. TAP worked but I also prefer manual focusing these lenses.

This one worked for me but I had to buy two of them. (One didn't reach infinity with the PCX)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B06WLR536L/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

My copy of this adapter feels tight to the camera and lens and have great mount parallelism. But there's probably high variance with this adapter, so you may have to buy a few to make it work.



Oct 11, 2017 at 03:43 AM
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Fred, what is your mounting set up for your PCX1500 on the CV 35 1.7?


Oct 11, 2017 at 04:02 AM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Fred, what is your mounting set up for your PCX1500 on the CV 35 1.7?


It's here:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1511888/0#14209210

Just to be clear, you should use a PCX5000 on it.



Oct 11, 2017 at 04:08 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
It's here:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1511888/0#14209210

Just to be clear, you should use a PCX5000 on it.


Yes, correct and thank you.



Oct 11, 2017 at 04:17 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
You won't be able to use the Hawks or your adapters on it. TAP worked but I also prefer manual focusing these lenses.

This one worked for me but I had to buy two of them. (One didn't reach infinity with the PCX)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B06WLR536L/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

My copy of this adapter feels tight to the camera and lens and have great mount parallelism. But there's probably high variance with this adapter, so you may have to buy a few to make it work.


Thanks for the detailed info, Fred! I have seen those K&F Concept adapters in Tokyo stores too so they would be easy to pick up locally.



Oct 11, 2017 at 05:16 AM
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