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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


Hello All

Having moved to Nikon for wildlife with the D500 and being very happy, I am considering doing the same for my landscape setup. Most likely a move to a used D810 now the 850 is out. I have the 70-200 F4 nikkor already. I can replace my 16-35F4L cannon easy enough with the Nikon version as reviews as very good for quality.

The question comes in replacing my 24-105F4L. I use full frame cannon now and find the lens a real work horse. The 24-120 from Nikon is not that great from the examples friends have. I don't really want to move to 24-70 as I like the 105mm when in cities or for capturing detail in landscapes. I do very little inside so f4 is good enough.

Suggestions ?

Thanks
Rob




Oct 05, 2017 at 08:41 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


Sigma 24-105 Art


Oct 05, 2017 at 08:46 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


Lanscapes? Nikon 24mm PC-E, absolutely. I wouldn't go with zooms for serious landscapes. Add a Nikon 45mm PC-E for normal lens. Lens movements are SO very useful!


Kent in SD



Oct 05, 2017 at 08:57 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


Whoever is saying the 24-120 f/4 is bad either doesn't own one, or isn't smart enough to use it. Everyone I know that has one loves it, myself included. We (collectively) think the reviewers are insane.

Pick up a used copy from here on FM or KEH or something. You won't be out much if you don't like it. Even if the D810 or whatever you get doesn't work, you *will* use it on the D500. It's a great mid range zoom and spends more time than it probably should on my D500.

Edit: Here's a few pics showing how broken mine is.

_DSC3336 by Zack, on Flickr

_DSC0393-Edit by Zack, on Flickr

_DSC0407-Edit by Zack, on Flickr

_DSC0328-Edit by Zack, on Flickr

_DSC9679-Edit by Zack, on Flickr

Terrible, just terrible.





Edit edit: I've got some landscape type stuff somewhere, not uploaded to flickr though. I'll sort through pics and find em later.



Oct 05, 2017 at 09:17 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


There apparently has been a quality control issue with the 24-120 as the user reports have been inconsistent. I bought mine more than five years ago and am most pleased with the results. Others have stated to the contrary. Be careful especially if buying used.


Oct 05, 2017 at 10:49 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


I have a most excellent Nikon 24-120. It is honestly as good (but slightly different) as my primes at f4. I'm very happy with it. If you don't like the 24-120, the only other options are the 24-70/2.8 offerings which you are already opposed to, or the Sigma 24-105, which I am not familiar with.

If you want to play safe, either get the Nikon 24-70/2.8 E + 70-200/4 G or get tilt shift primes.



Oct 05, 2017 at 11:53 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


The 24-120 f/4 VR is great. One of my go-to landscape lenses due to it's flexibility. Only problem I have with it is some pretty harsh vignetting in the far corners from I think 50mm-80mm. From what I've seen, the 24-105L isn't all that impressive.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5376f470e4b0e8c9b2adb2d4/572f7b96ab48de6f42358e20/572f7baa4c2f85ddda90a258/1465931711476/2016-02.jpg

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5376f470e4b0e8c9b2adb2d4/572f7b96ab48de6f42358e20/58e02fed1e5b6c81744a0231/1491087346370/20160501_DeathValley-509-Edit.jpg

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5376f470e4b0e8c9b2adb2d4/572f7b96ab48de6f42358e20/58e0307c579fb35c697bf0b4/1491087808843/20160925_GrandTeton-0389.jpg

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5376f470e4b0e8c9b2adb2d4/572f7b96ab48de6f42358e20/58e0305ab3db2bb29034e458/1491087824689/20160921_Yellowstone-0591.jpg

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5376f470e4b0e8c9b2adb2d4/572f7b96ab48de6f42358e20/58e0307cd2b8572341134291/1491087752603/20160925_GrandTeton-0147.jpg

I'd say it does alright.



Oct 05, 2017 at 11:55 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


It's interesting you like the look of the 16-35 but not the 24-120. I own the 16-35 and I've taken pictures I like with it, but it doesn't compete with the best for detail. The majority of the reviews for the 16-35 that I've read were not very positive, e.g. lenstip and dxomark agree it's not as sharp as the Canon. The Sigma 24-105 rates higher than both the Nikon and the Canon.

Nikon specialises in making lenses that polarize opinion. The trouble with asking for other peoples opinions is that they may not see pictures the way you do.



Oct 06, 2017 at 04:58 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


I own the 16-35mm f/4 and the 24-120mm f/4. Both are fine lenses and were used to replace the 17-40L and 24-105L when I was shooting Canon. Like the Canon lenses, these are both compromise optics. They provide you with the flexibility of having a zoom and image stabilization, but tend to become less sharp when shot wide open at the extreme of their range. This reality does not preclude their usefulness in landscape photography. If you are stopping down to f/8 to f/16 then the loss of detail becomes relatively insignificant.

So you know, I find that both lenses vignette on the D810 when shot at their widest focal length, and the 16-35mm exhibits chromatic aberrations at 16mm. This CA and vignetting is less pronounced than what the more expensive 17-35mm f/2.8 produced and is much like what you might likely see on the 17-40L. Canon refreshed this lens and Nikon has not... as such, the Canon 16-40L is probably sharper than the Nikon... but the sensor and usability of the D810 make this moot.

bruce

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Oct 06, 2017 at 05:48 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


I tested the 24-120mm on a D850 here:

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1511499



Oct 06, 2017 at 06:05 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


Since you seem to like zooms, why not the 24-70 f2.8 VR? Covers all types of mid-range work and is reputedly "prime like" from 24-50 for landscapes, and you already have 70-200 covered.


Oct 06, 2017 at 06:33 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


When I moved from Canon I lamented the loss of the 24-105L range, so I bought the 24-120mm F4 VR day one and I paid full price. I have made tens of thousands of sharp, publishable images with it. It's a Swiss Army knife type of lens, it isn't the best suffers form vignetting big time...but it's so nice to have the range to 120mm with VR and Nano coat. I had the Sigma for a month long trip to Italy as everyone said it was better, I did not see this with my copy. It's bigger, heavier and has an 82mm front v 77mm.

Also don't rule out the 18-35mm G, I use this in my travel bag instead of the 16-35mm VR. add a 50 F1.8 to your 70-200mm f4 and a 1.4tc and it's a nice travel kit.



Oct 06, 2017 at 06:36 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


ariel777 wrote:
There apparently has been a quality control issue with the 24-120 as the user reports have been inconsistent. I bought mine more than five years ago and am most pleased with the results. Others have stated to the contrary. Be careful especially if buying used.


The same applies to the Canon 24-105...



Oct 06, 2017 at 08:36 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


I would give the Tamron 15-30 VC a serious look for landscape work. It is absolutely amazing en very much on par with the Nikon 14-24mm. Only downside: there is no filter thread.


Oct 06, 2017 at 08:41 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


Agree with Daan B comment above. I realize the Tamron 15-30 VC is wider than what you were looking for but I can attest that is a fantastic optic when paired with the D8XX


Oct 06, 2017 at 09:00 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Considering a full move to Nikon. Lens advice


The original trifecta is still as relevant today as it was back in 1865 right after the Civil War. No chasing the latest and greatest, just good landscape quality lenses. If that's what you really want, or do you just need a full "kit."

14-24mm
27-70mm
70-200mm

No unnecessary overlap of focal lengths.

If filters are a concern you can substitute the 16-35mm in place of the 14-24mm or buy in addition.



Oct 06, 2017 at 09:48 AM





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