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Jonathan Brady
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · What Batis lens do you want next?


From Zeiss' website regarding the Batis line...
Compact and lightweight compared to classic SLR systems: The exceptional ZEISS lenses for mirrorless system cameras are used in conjunction current high-resolution sensors for images without any compromises – delivering outstanding performance, reliability and low weight.

Given that statement, as well as the lineup so far (2.8/18, 2/25, 1.8/85, 2.8/135), what would you like to see next from Zeiss in their Batis lineup?

Based on what I've seen so far on forums, I have a rough idea of how this will go, but I thought I'd ask anyway :-)



Sep 24, 2017 at 10:04 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · What Batis lens do you want next?


As much as I'd like a short range zoom lens like a 2/35-50, I just don't see it happening, so I'm voting for a 1.8/35.


Sep 24, 2017 at 10:05 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · What Batis lens do you want next?


I would like a Zeiss Batis 100-300/4.5-5.6 that improves on the Contax Zeiss 100-300/4.5-5.6. A Zeiss Batis 100/2.8 Apo Makro Planar would be nice too.


Sep 24, 2017 at 10:11 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · What Batis lens do you want next?


Although I voted for the 35mm, I would also be quite interested in a 100mm f/2, but this doesn't really fit the Batis model of being a lightweight lens--a 100 f/2 would be pushing the small size lightweight model pretty far if it is made to the standard of the previous Zeiss lenses. Still my preference for focal lengths for a full Sony FE kit would be:

18, 25, 35, 55, and 100



Sep 24, 2017 at 10:12 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · What Batis lens do you want next?


I want a Batis 35/1.8 following the Distagon 25/2 mold with smooth rendering. However, it has to improve on the Distagon 35/1.4 flaws. (axial CA and onion rings in specular highlights)
It would be a perfect combo to their Sonnar 85/1.8.



Sep 24, 2017 at 10:19 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · What Batis lens do you want next?


I'm greedy and I only got 1 choice. How's a lens whore supposed to pick one. Geez

I want a 200 2.8 it solves a big issue for runway stuff
35 F2 or 1.8 I'll take either
28f 2 in APO flavor. I want a killer
12 F2.8



Sep 24, 2017 at 10:27 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · What Batis lens do you want next?


100% something wider. Love shooting at 14-16mm. 18mm just doesn’t feel exactly right for UWA focal length for me. Almost like a slight compromise.


Sep 24, 2017 at 10:59 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · What Batis lens do you want next?


Messier77 wrote:
100% something wider. Love shooting at 14-16mm. 18mm just doesn’t feel exactly right for UWA focal length for me. Almost like a slight compromise.


Not A Batis, but the 12-24 zoom is excellent for that purpose.



Sep 24, 2017 at 02:03 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · What Batis lens do you want next?


Batis 35/1.8 is a no-brainer for me. There are simply no good FE AF lenses for 35mm. F1.4 is huge, F2.8 is slow, 1635GM is good but not at 35mm. 2470GM is okay at 35mm but mediocre overall for its price and weight, especially at the very useful long end.


Sep 24, 2017 at 03:33 PM
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chiron wrote:
Not A Batis, but the 12-24 zoom is excellent for that purpose.


Unfortunately flare resistance on the 12-24 is poor compared to the Batis...and f/2.8 is preferable.



Sep 24, 2017 at 04:24 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · What Batis lens do you want next?


A 55mm would make a great short portrait lens and be far easier to produce in spec/weight/speed/cost terms, and being AF would be deadly fast at f2 - so that is my pragmatic choice. I envision a fair-priced competitor to the Leica 50 APO, itself a 8/5 design.

I imagine many could get over any disappointment if either of these FLs appeared. Their latest and greatest have been top end portrait-ready yet broadly very capable lenses - Milvus 35/1.4, Milvus 85/1.4, Loxia 85/2.4 and Batis 135/2.8. 35s and 50-55s can/must be practical lenses, because they are the mainstay of many photographer's bags, lens kits are built around them.

What they do next is an important move for them. They have been playing catch up since the early Batis debacle, which put pent up demand front and center of their thinking, with flow on effects - they knew they could produce slower lenses quickly, hence the latest Batis/Loxia telephotos. A high end light 35/55 might be a different kettle of fish in design terms, but would entrench Sony FE very solidly in the enthusiast segment, and would lure more users from C/N than any other lens. Bodies attract users, lenses keep them there. A 28mm is probably better as a Loxia, and the market is flooded to capacity with wider lenses.



Sep 24, 2017 at 04:58 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · What Batis lens do you want next?


Already spoilt with my current Batis kit: 18, 25, 85, 135, if I had my wish, I would love to see a Batis 100/2 next; at least on par with the lengendary Carl Zeiss 100/2 MTF. But would also hope for an APO designed Batis 100/2 like the Batis 135 APO. For those of you Zeiss MTF Connoisseurs you already know the Zeiss Makro-Planar 100m f/2, wouldn't it be great to use this lens with both MF and AF option?







Sep 24, 2017 at 05:12 PM
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philip_pj wrote:
A 55mm would make a great short portrait lens and be far easier to produce in spec/weight/speed/cost terms, and being AF would be deadly fast at f2 - so that is my pragmatic choice. I envision a fair-priced competitor to the Leica 50 APO, itself a 8/5 design.

I imagine many could get over any disappointment if either of these FLs appeared. Their latest and greatest have been top end portrait-ready yet broadly very capable lenses - Milvus 35/1.4, Milvus 85/1.4, Loxia 85/2.4 and Batis 135/2.8. 35s and 50-55s can/must be practical lenses, because they are the mainstay of many photographer's
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What's the problem with FE 55/1.8?



Sep 24, 2017 at 05:16 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · What Batis lens do you want next?


Messier77 wrote:
Unfortunately flare resistance on the 12-24 is poor compared to the Batis...and f/2.8 is preferable.


Yes. But most find the 12-24 is sharper to the edges and corners--plus it's a zoom!



Sep 24, 2017 at 05:26 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · What Batis lens do you want next?


I have zero interest in Batis lenses, I want a 28mm Loxia.


Sep 24, 2017 at 05:53 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · What Batis lens do you want next?


genji wrote:
I have zero interest in Batis lenses, I want a 28mm Loxia.


I want a Loxia 28 (MF) and a Batis 35 (AF).




Sep 24, 2017 at 05:56 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · What Batis lens do you want next?


chiron wrote:
Yes. But most find the 12-24 is sharper to the edges and corners--plus it's a zoom!


There are definitely pluses to the 12-24, but I found both of my test copies to be inferior to my Batis 18 in sharpness. I also need truly excellent flare resistance for my purposes (storm chasing) and my UWA needs to double as my Astro lens (and I’m not a fan of f/4 for that use).



Sep 24, 2017 at 06:06 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · What Batis lens do you want next?


I'm fine with that Fred, as long as the Loxia 28 is released first.

Fred Miranda wrote:
I want a Loxia 28 (MF) and a Batis 35 (AF).





Sep 24, 2017 at 06:39 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · What Batis lens do you want next?


Messier77 wrote:
There are definitely pluses to the 12-24, but I found both of my test copies to be inferior to my Batis 18 in sharpness. I also need truly excellent flare resistance for my purposes (storm chasing) and my UWA needs to double as my Astro lens (and I’m not a fan of f/4 for that use).


Yes, the Batis 18 is suggested by Zeiss for astro. I do like mine. But I would rather the next Batis is at 35 f/2 than an ultrawide--that is where they could offer something that is mostly missing in the FE lens lineup--a compact, light, fast AF 35 with a good max aperture.



Sep 24, 2017 at 06:52 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · What Batis lens do you want next?


14mm f2.8 that doesn't suck for variability would be fantastic


Sep 24, 2017 at 08:03 PM
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