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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Used D4 or new D500 with m43 as second system? | |
Pavel wrote:
When I have decisions in front of me I research all the specs, find out the plusses and cons, see if there are any major issues and then make a decision. A short time later I change my mind. And then I'm like a ping-pong ball, back and forth, forth and back. Sometimes the engineering side, you know that logical dry part of the brain, easily impressed always by more, wins. Once in a while, though not very often, the intuitive side wins.
What I've noticed from years and years of that overthinking tendency I have is that very often when I choose on logic, I wind up having to fix it later, and that always leaves me more broke than I had anticipated. So, if you at all like me Rasmus, I think that somewhere in your heart you sort of know which somehow makes your pulse beat a bit faster, and which one you can somehow picture yourself happy with when you try to imagine yourself shooting - get that one. Don't be like me!
I recommend a nice relaxing Sunday, lots of your favorite alcoholic beverage and some nice music or whatever you like to relax with - then some more alcohol - and go with what your drunk minds eye sees you with.
But since I can't ever take my own advice about not overthinking things and have a hard to finding that inner intuitive voice inside me: I will say that you should never go hiking in high heels.
What I mean is that if you don't give something a good chance of working for you, by buying or using other than the best equiptment you can get your hands on, or your wife to approve, you are doing yourself a large disservice. Your not giving things the best chance, you won't see it in the best light - and in my example you'll never go hiking again.
So get the D4. This is Nikons very best effort which by happy confluence is at a remarkably low point in price. It's in your range. It track as the best Nikon knew then how to design, it is rugged, the battery is fabulous and basically you are getting a no compromise camera. And a camera which has strenghts built in for excelling in exactly the way that your chosen interest is best served by.
And it's a matter of balance. The Olympus bodies shine their best mated to small sweet primes. The birding/wildlife lens you are thinking of getting (me too!) is a great performer , and a remarkable value to hear Thom Hogan's write on it but it is large. The size of the lens will be better matched by the larger D4. The balance will be there. I also like that in the case of Goldilocks and the three cameras, you get to choose two, not just one. The two extreme oposites seem a better pair that two systems closer together, and again, the D4 fits that mold.
Have you factored in how much the 200-500 along with the D4 will save you each month in Gym membership!
Lastly, life is short, and reputedly they don't allow even carry on luggage when you go. Get the best. That would be the D4. Oh, and a gimbal head.
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I love this answer! Full of humor and still serious which ticks all the right boxes for me. Not only that but yes, I am "sorry" to say. I am exactly like you (but you knew that already). I always overthink things, and when I don't, I think too little, act too fast and sometimes regret it afterwards. In the case of m43 and Olympus, I love the system, but for 5 years I have had the nagging feeling in the back of my head that just won't go away... "I miss my D700". I miss the actual knobs and dials, I miss the responsiveness. The OM-D series is fast as hell but a simple thing as I can't review images while the camera is still writing to the card has pissed me off from the beginning, I thought this would have been solved with the E-M1.2 but it's not. It's not a big thing, it's not even important, but it's a little tiny bit annoying.
My logic tells me, the D500 would suit the needs better. Newer sensor, better AF especially for wildlife plus a few more pixels cramped in to a smaller space for a longer equivalent field of view. Only small downside is APS-C, which is "too close" to m43 and a weird crop factor to me, I much prefer "2x crop" or non at all. This is the biggest reason I am considering the D4. Of course, the D4 would make a wonderful landscape camera as well and I would be able to use my older, although manual lenses, for this purpose without the crop factor.
That is the logical dry part of my brain, that part has always made choices for me, work, where to live, what to drive etc (part from that one time when I got a 1989 Jeep Wrangler, that was fun... and expensive, and short lived )
The intuitive part should maybe get a chance this time? Without having to wear high heels on a hike, I seriously doubt my girlfriend would find it amusing if I came back with her high heeled shoes all muddy telling her "Well, this guy in a photo forum told me to go hike in high heels..."
Even with my worries bout D4 tracking being worse then D500, I can't imagine it as bad, am I right?
So the remaining big worry would be the reach of the 200-500, part from the fact that I save on a gym membership, would the 500mm be enough for birds? Or would I put my self in a situation where I will end up with a D500 in a year or two anyway? Then again, my old 50mm F1.4 AF-D and 180 F2.8 AF-D both will work "better" with FF anyway.
I do agree that m43 sensor and FF would be better suited to work together then m43 and APS-C. Though in the D500 the sensors seems to produce such excellent results that it is like moving to a FF anyway.
Life is short, I have no intention of leaving it with my bank account stashed with money (this is also the reason my bank account has more or less NO money) but hey, at least when I do leave this life I have achieved one of my goals
Your advice about a Sunday afternoon, wine and whisky is one of the best I've heard. I will combine it with Pink Floyd and camera and lens reviews and hopefully I will have made a choice by early next year when the funds also allow me to do so.
A final question, Nikon is having an Expo near me this weekend, I will be able to test both the D500 and the D5. How much does the D5 compare to the D4 in terms of pure ergonomics? Will it be close enough to get a feeling of how the D4 feels?
Many many thanks!!!
/Rasmus
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