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I used to take photos of my step daughter at equestrian events. The one thing you quickly realized was that every rider had family and friends following them around and documenting their every move with cell phones and uploading to social media in seconds. A lot of riders were already looking at the photos/videos as they walked out of the dressage/jump ring. The nature of viewing images/videos simply changed with the internet and social media and peoples attention span kind of left the workflow of pro photographers in the dust.

There are very few professions out there invulnerable to disruptive technology or cheaper competition.



Oct 13, 2017 at 05:41 PM
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I gave this photo to little Carlos' mom for free. Am I going to hell?





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Oct 14, 2017 at 01:48 PM
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ggreene wrote:
I used to take photos of my step daughter at equestrian events. The one thing you quickly realized was that every rider had family and friends following them around and documenting their every move with cell phones and uploading to social media in seconds. A lot of riders were already looking at the photos/videos as they walked out of the dressage/jump ring. The nature of viewing images/videos simply changed with the internet and social media and peoples attention span kind of left the workflow of pro photographers in the dust.

There are very few professions out there invulnerable to disruptive technology
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you are correct. I once thought if there was a profession immune to disruptive technology or cheaper competition it would be the dentists, they were even immune from managed heath care. Then I saw on the morning news a segment about robot dentists doing total dental implants ..without any human professionals ! .... ugh



Oct 14, 2017 at 02:03 PM
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CW100 wrote:
you are correct. I once thought if there was a profession immune to disruptive technology or cheaper competition it would be the dentists, they were even immune from managed heath care. Then I saw on the morning news a segment about robot dentists doing total dental implants ..without any human professionals ! .... ugh


It'll get worse. There are studies floating around that predict artificial intelligence and automation with combine to eliminate 40-45 percent of U.S. jobs within 30 years.



Oct 14, 2017 at 03:42 PM
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ggreene wrote:
There are very few professions out there invulnerable to disruptive technology or cheaper competition.


You're preaching to the choir with me. I started out as a newspaper reporter and editor, then moved over to general print publication editing.



Oct 14, 2017 at 03:50 PM
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Are you saying that you feel guilty for gifting your photographs to players and parents? Pshaw! Guilt just means that you are criticizing your own motivation because of how you perceive the reaction of others. Who cares? Trust yourself, enjoy yourself. I shot my daughters' sports activities for years. I gave digital files and hard copies to players, parents, and teams. One team used my picture as their Facebook profile pic for quite a while. My daughter's soccer team asked me to be the team photographer one year. Now, I performed the function with my usual free flowing spirit but did get a small stipend for my services. I did not charge for any of the photographs I gave to the student-athletes. Could I have charged? Perhaps. But, then I would have felt guilty!


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All these posting reminds me why I sometimes miss the old B/W wet labs days. And it was so lonely being the only photographer on the sideline.


Oct 21, 2017 at 12:53 PM
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The best way to illustrate that difference would be for you to set up a grill beside the concession stand and give away food. When you are asked to leave explain how you are just giving back. I promise that you would be shut down.

Pro photographers, for the most part, weren't given that protection and were left competing with photographers who were giving away photos. The event photographer who doesn't have the same protection as other vendors is at the mercy of professional courtesy. And we all see how that turned out. Most of them, faced with the
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Sorry, but your response is inapposite. The real analogy is you (the professional; photographer) showing up at a public sporting event with a hot dog cart and then complaining about spectators who bring a picnic basket and share their food.



Oct 29, 2017 at 06:55 PM
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Yeah that whole public/private event thing was debated to death when this topic first came up years ago. You're a little late to the game, so to speak.

I don't care enough about it to rehash it at this point. I have moved on to bigger and better things. No hard feelings from my end though. Y'all have fun with what's left of it.

Marty



Oct 30, 2017 at 01:44 AM
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I shot HS sports in NC for 10 years. Every year the sales were less and finally the NCHSAA said if you're on the field with one of their passes you could not sell the pics and I was ready to retire anyway. This was never my day job but I still never gave away pics. I won't even shoot anymore because I can't even try to sell the pics. If someone buys one of your pics, even for a few bucks, it should make you feel good, like the pic was good enough for someone to buy it. In NC we've reached the point now where there are no pros on the field, only maxpreps so giving away pics isn't costing anyone else money


Oct 30, 2017 at 01:47 PM
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RandyR wrote:
... In NC we've reached the point now where there are no pros on the field, only maxpreps so giving away pics isn't costing anyone else money


MaxPreps only pays photographers for special assignments. The only income they make from most games is from photo sales. (At least that's the way it is in Utah.) So people giving away photos hurts MaxPreps photogs as well.

I still shoot for MaxPreps, but it's mostly for fun because it's rare to find a game without a small crowd of other people with cameras on the field.





Oct 30, 2017 at 02:35 PM
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MaxPreps only pays photographers for special assignments. The only income they make from most games is from photo sales. (At least that's the way it is in Utah.) So people giving away photos hurts MaxPreps photogs as well.

I still shoot for MaxPreps, but it's mostly for fun because it's rare to find a game without a small crowd of other people with cameras on the field.



good point
I used to shoot for them and might again some day now that that's the only way to sell (I assume, haven't checked but MP is in good with NC)



Oct 30, 2017 at 02:49 PM
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