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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


At this url

http://www.nikkor.com/story/0016/

used to be a paper, written by the Nikon engineer who designed the original Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 lens.
The paper explained how an aspherical lens element was used to reduce/eliminate sagittal coma flare.
Unfortunately Nikon removed this important historical document as part of their 100th anniversary celebration.

Thanks to RnRau http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1509357/1#14192772 for pointing to the new url, quote:

NIKKOR - The Thousand and One Nights No.13





An aspherical surface got over sagittal coma flare
AI Noct Nikkor 58mm F1.2
This time I'm going to discuss a standard lens using an aspherical surface, the Ai Noct NIKKOR 58mm f/1.2 following the 6th Tale discussed "the world's first aspherical SLR lens," OP Fisheye-Nikkor 10mm f/5.6.
by Kouichi Ohshita

http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/0016/index.htm


According to http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/58.htm there were two versions, namely the:

AI version (1977-1981): 7 somewhat rounded blades, production volume about 2,500 lenses.
AI-s version (1982-1997): 9 straight blades, production volume about 9,000 lenses.

I have the later version with 9 straight blades.
The Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 is quite different from the recent AF-S NIKKOR 58mm f/1.4G lens.

According to KenRockwell, quote:

"The 58mm f/1.2 Noct-NIKKOR is very special aspherical lens that was designed expressly for photography that involves brilliant points of light against dark backgrounds at large apertures."

The TechArt Pro (TAP) autofocus adapter, used on my Sony A7rII, A9, and a6300 cameras, turns this manual only lens into an AF experience, so that finally one can achieve in-focus images even with an wide open aperture.

As this lens is fairly unique and has become a collectors item, I thought it might be of interest to show a variety of images I have taken with that special lens.

The first image is a panorama of 3 images.





Sony ILCE-9 + Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 @ ISO 1600, FOCAL LENGTH 58.0 mm (58.0 mm in 35mm), APERTURE f/5.6, EXPOSURE TIME 0.01667s (1/60).

Please, join the fun and post your images taken with a Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 lens on a Sony camera.

K-H.

Edited on Sep 27, 2017 at 10:50 AM · View previous versions



Sep 19, 2017 at 06:12 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


I'd play:

Manual on A7

DSC00685 by JayPhoto, on Flickr

TAP on A7II

DSC06169 by JayPhoto, on Flickr

Both from AI version.



Sep 19, 2017 at 07:39 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


Is the qualifier only for MILC Sony only?


Sep 19, 2017 at 07:46 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


low325 wrote:
Is the qualifier only for MILC Sony only?


Thanks for the question. No, not at all.
I had any Sony camera in mind.
The more folks contribute, the better as far as I am concerned.

Here is an image with the A7rII.





Sony ILCE-7RM2 + Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 @ ISO 800, FOCAL LENGTH 58.0 mm (58.0 mm in 35mm), APERTURE f/?, EXPOSURE TIME 0.05s (1/20).

K-H.



Sep 19, 2017 at 07:56 PM
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Sony ILCE-9 + Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 @ ISO 1600, FOCAL LENGTH 58.0 mm (58.0 mm in 35mm), APERTURE f/5.6, EXPOSURE TIME 0.01667s (1/60).

K-H.



Sep 19, 2017 at 08:25 PM
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Sony ILCE-7RM2 + Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 @ ISO 640, FOCAL LENGTH 58.0 mm (58.0 mm in 35mm), APERTURE f/5.6, EXPOSURE TIME 0.0008s (1/1250).

K-H.



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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


looks awesome, i'd love to try one.

if you get a chance it'd be great if you posted some wide open images to the f/1.2 image thread where the noct-nikkor is seriously underrepresented.

edit: forgot the link: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1104043

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Sep 19, 2017 at 11:27 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


So the $3000 question, is it worth $3000? Honestly curious.


Sep 20, 2017 at 12:23 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


forgot the link: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1104043




Sep 20, 2017 at 12:25 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


Bring on the 1.2 images. You don't pay $3000 for a normal focal lengh to shoot stopped down.


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


sebboh wrote:
looks awesome, i'd love to try one.

if you get a chance it'd be great if you posted some wide open images to the f/1.2 image thread where the noct-nikkor is seriously underrepresented.

edit: forgot the link: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1104043


Many thanks sebboh for the excellent suggestion. I will do that.
Here are two images shot with A7rII @ f/1.2





Sony ILCE-7RM2 + Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 @ ISO 800, FOCAL LENGTH 58.0 mm (58.0 mm in 35mm), APERTURE f/1.2, EXPOSURE TIME 0.01667s (1/60).






Sony ILCE-7RM2 + Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 @ ISO 1000, FOCAL LENGTH 58.0 mm (58.0 mm in 35mm), APERTURE f/1.2, EXPOSURE TIME 0.01667s (1/60).

The DOF seems a bit too narrow for my taste. So stopping down just a tad should be fine.

K-H.


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Sep 20, 2017 at 06:56 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


Here are 2 images with A7rII and the Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 I believe @ f/4.





Sony ILCE-7RM2 + Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 @ ISO 1250, FOCAL LENGTH 58.0 mm (58.0 mm in 35mm), APERTURE f/4, EXPOSURE TIME 0.01667s (1/60).





Sony ILCE-7RM2 + Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 @ ISO 1000, FOCAL LENGTH 58.0 mm (58.0 mm in 35mm), APERTURE f/4, EXPOSURE TIME 0.01667s (1/60).

This is probably stopped down more than I wanted, but not by much.

K-H.






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Sep 23, 2017 at 08:04 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


Here are 5 images with the A9 and the Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 with AF from the TechArt Pro adapter.
f/1.2





f/1.4





f/2





f/2.8





f/4





For f/5.6 the A9 wouldn't autofocus any longer, it was simply too dark. I tried the A7rII, but it didn't autofocus at all.

Images for f/1.2 and f/1.4 are very similar, showing strong vignetting that I didn't correct.
At f/2 the very strong light source in the center begins to show some sunstars.
Images for f/2.8 and f/4 are experiencing less and less vignetting and gaining DOF.

Using the lens at f/2 seems promising with the already gained DOF.

K-H.






Sep 23, 2017 at 08:48 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


This lens is definitely on my "if I win the lottery" list. Speaking of which, I haven't bought a ticket in a few weeks, hmmm.


Sep 23, 2017 at 09:32 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


Lee Saxon wrote:
This lens is definitely on my "if I win the lottery" list. Speaking of which, I haven't bought a ticket in a few weeks, hmmm.



Thanks Lee. I wish you win the lottery soon!
This lens is very useful for multiple purposes, not just for f/1.2 and portrait shots.
Stopped down it also is great for landscape shots.
And the lens loves strong point light sources.

K-H.



Sep 23, 2017 at 09:44 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


Mathieu18 wrote:
So the $3000 question, is it worth $3000? Honestly curious.


For collectors, maybe. For photographers that seek good performance, not a chance. It's not even close to much cheaper modern lenses, but then of course those are "only" f/1.4.

I had one for a couple of weeks and I wasn't impressed. It's only sharp in the very middle of the frame, and the bokeh can be very funky (edit: but then I am one of those who seldom or never shoot closeups). I actually prefer the cheap Nikkor 55/1.2 even if it has a lot more spherical aberration.



Sep 23, 2017 at 10:01 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


There are also photographers who care less about performance than they do about emotion as well as the ineffable pleasures of using lenses with a rich and storied history, whether they are expensive like the Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2 or not (the Nikkor-H.C 50/2 in LTM mount comes to mind). But then I have an ambivalent attitude towards "progress", for I strongly believe that for everything gained something of equal (or greater) value is lost.


Sep 23, 2017 at 10:58 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


Why not just get the new noct?


Sep 23, 2017 at 11:41 AM
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genji wrote:
There are also photographers who care less about performance than they do about emotion as well as the ineffable pleasures of using lenses with a rich and storied history, whether they are expensive like the Noct-Nikkor 58/1.2 or not (the Nikkor-H.C 50/2 in LTM mount comes to mind). But then I have an ambivalent attitude towards "progress", for I strongly believe that for everything gained something of equal (or greater) value is lost.


Of course, but there is also hype. Rare things that was very good for the era often become collectors items, and when the prices skyrocket, even the casual users start to drool. For no reasonable reason.
If this lens was made to the same optical specs by lets say Samyang, it wouldn't even be $500 (with worse build quality, of course). And people would definitely not rave about some "magic" image quality properties, because they are not there.

I also dreamt of the Noct-Nikkor. Until I got to try it.



Sep 23, 2017 at 12:27 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Noct-NIKKOR 58/1.2 images, taken with Sony cameras


Well I don't have to dream of it, I simply enjoy using it, and have so for years before there were Sony E and FE cameras.

The nice thing about the TAP adapter is that I now can get better focused images on supporting Sony cameras than I ever managed to get with Nikon cameras.

I have an eclectic collection of lenses spanning 60 years, from the Rigid Summicron of 1956 or 1957 to the newest FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM OSS lens. I like variety and different characters. Why limit myself just to a particular type, now that I can afford it in retirement.

Also I am impressed by the fact that older manual only lenses now can be used with AF on newest cameras and benefit from recently perfected IBIS technology. Simply an amazing feat IMHO.

The Noct-Nikkor was an important milestone for Nikon in its development of their lens technology. I like seeing first hand what that was all about. I also find the images it produces quite pleasing. I don't view older lenses as competing with the "clinical" look of modern hyper sharp lenses that I use and enjoy as well. I view them as complementary.

Everybody is certainly entitled to their opinion and preoccupation with the cost aspects of their tools. But that seems to vary greatly from person to person. I am not going to dwell on that.

K-H.



Sep 23, 2017 at 05:41 PM
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