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Leighton wrote:
I would suggest you browse the ton of information in this forum for awhile, say for a week. You'll soon discover all that you need to know. At the end of that week, if you still need some answers, you'll have a better idea of the route you want to take. BTW...your English is just fine. 
The Fuji X community and FM community in general are so friendly that you guys clarified all my questions quickly. BTW I've been reading Fuji gear threads since when they were located in Alt gear threads. Thanks for a compliment to my English
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gdanmitchell wrote:
Given the number of questions you have, I'll agree with the previous poster that some general exploration of this forum may help you. I'll also give some general thoughts on the "switching" to the Fujifilm system for what I take to be your types of photography.
1. Rather than "switching" (e.g. — giving up one system and moving wholesale to another) I urge new adopters to try out the Fujifilm system before getting rid of the old gear. Also consider, at least for a while, using the Fujifilm gear to augment rather than replace your existing system. (In the end, that is how I decided to use my Fujifilm gear.)
2. When comparing to full frame systems, there are things that they can do that a smaller sensor system cannot do or cannot do as well. You'll need to decide how important these things are to your photography, or at least to the portions of your work that you'll do with the cropped sensor system.
3. That being said, the current 24MP Fujifilm systems produce excellent image quality, and prints in the 20" x 30" range and larger are a realistic target output.
4. Much of your experience is based on the older XE1 system, which I also started with. Its pluses and minuses are well known, and many of the minuses (slow AF, some hunting in low light, fewer controls, etc) have been rectified in the newer cameras. My XPro2 AFs much faster and with a great deal of accuracy. (Though in certain cases a DSLR will still be better when it comes to AF.)
5. I'm surprised that you want to carry so many bodies for travel photography, but each to his own. My travel setup is very small and light — one of the major advantages of the Fujifilm system — and I can carry the entire thing in a small messenger bag that fits under airline seats. It consists of Xpro2, 14mm, 23mm, and 35mm primes. I sometimes augment this with the 50-140mm zoom, though I used to use the 55-200mm lens.
6. Many of the Fujifilm lenses are really excellent. Check to make sure that these cover the focal lengths and other features that you require. While Fujifilm's lens offerings are increasingly extensive, there are a few gaps that might affect certain users. (For example, I love the 50-140mm f/2.8, but I'd be happy if there were a smaller and lighter f/4 version — equivalent to the Canon 70-200mm f/4 lenses.)
7. If you must use multiple bodies, consider complementary rather than identical bodies. For example, you might combine a XT2 (great for use with zooms) and the XPro2 (great for street photography with primes). Or you might augment one of the above with a smaller and lighter body such as the upcoming XE3 or the X100f.
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Steve Wylie wrote:
I agree with this. You could travel the world with an X-Pro2, an X-T2 and these three lenses. They will fit in a small Domke bag that weighs practically nothing. That's my normal location kit. Or in a Think Tank Airport Essentials, with all of the chargers, cleaning supplies, etc., etc., which fits under an airplane seat. This is my normal go-to kit for European concert tours.
Dan and Steve, thanks for valuable advices. I'll keep them in mind if I decide switching or adding Fuji-X to my kit.
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Alanu wrote:
Alex, I urge you to purchase any of the 24mp Fuji bodies and just have fun and experiment.
I shoot Canon and Fuji and I've somehow managed to figure out where and when to use it.
The 16-35 f/4IS is truly a hard lens to beat when it comes to cityscape/landscape. Even though the 6D doesn't have the best dynamic range you can still manage great files with that full frame.
The Fuji 10-24mm f/4 is a great lens in the Fuji world but I just cant wait to test out the newer UWA from them.
Alex don't test the 5dmk4.......for a Canon guy you'd be extremely impressed. The image quality on your 16-35 f/4IS will improve a lot when you use that same lens on the 5dmk4. In fact every lens will seem to jump up a notch in IQ!!!!!!
Figure out the focal lengths you require in the Fuji world and just go out and buy a Fuji for fun. That's what I did and I truly love the results I get with that system. I'm using my Fuji as a secondary system that manages to work side by side my Canon (substantially more reliable in low light) on many occasions.
I paid roughly $5000 (incl tax) Canadian for my 5dmk4. What I will suggest to you is take baby steps and give Fuji a good test run. You can buy a nice simple kit for the price of buying a Canon 5dmk4. If Fuji provided me the performance I need/demand I would sell all my Canon gear and probably would have had 2 x X-t2 with battery booster and all of their lens offerings. At this moment Fuji cannot replace my Canon gear's performance so this is why I'm incredibly happy in having my current Secondary system / Fuji kit I own.
Let your gut feel and eyes decide on Fuji gear. I have a feeling you'll appreciate the image quality. If you want a light travel kit with Fuji you'll be sacrificing some benefits you'd get with a full frame. Or if your like me bring 1 DSLR with UWA and a Fuji kit that covers the focal lengths you need.
If you feel the need to go Nikon your going to appreciate the DR and High ISO performance. Your photography demands on gear isn't as demanding as an events photographer. I think virtually any Camera system with excellent dynamic range will match you very well.
Even a Sony A7Rmk2 would give you more megapixels to play with.
Rent gear if you can and see if it meets your needs. You will never know until you give fuji a hard test drive ...Show more →
doc4x5 wrote:
I moved to Fuji from the Nikon D800E with the X E-1 and now use an X T-2 exclusively. I had Nikon digital cameras beginning with the D70. I kept the D800E for quite a while while selling off the lenses. I still have three PC-E's, 24, 45, 85. The weight advantage is significant, the quality is really close. I just rented a Fuji GFX50S for a weekend and shot over 500 images in familiar places. The image quality difference is clearly visible at 100% on a screen and at 14x16" print size but only if you are looking for differences and stick your nose in the print. At my usual print sizes, 9x13 and 13x20 at "normal" viewing distance, they're too close to be worth the US$8k a starting system would cost. When processing the GFX files, I looked back at a lot of my D800E files and files from a Sony A7RII I had rented and concluded that 24MP is just fine. APS-C is the sweet spot for me for a combination of adequate detail and reasonable lens size. Once you get used to the idea that you're focusing on the sensor instead of a ground glass in an OVF system that is intrinsically imprecise, you'll never go back.
While I have many of the Fuji primes, from the 14 to the 60 macro, I invariably use the three great zooms, 10-24, 16-55, and 50-140. They are all impressively sharp and handle well. The majority of my work is with the 16-55 f/2.8.
I do the same type of work you do, landscape, nature, occasional family and grandchild images. The Fuji works quite well and is a genuine pleasure to use.
Try it out, find a friend with one, rent one if you can do that in Moscow. You might just like it. But I agree, don't toss your old gear until you're sure. If you can't afford the new without unloading the old, maybe you're not quite ready for a change.
Best of luck.
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travelair wrote:
I've been a Nikon guy for about 40 years, being too lazy/cheap to switch, even when some other systems offered technical advantages. However, modern DSLR Nikons, and their respective AF lenses, are relative pigs compared to the FM2, FE and F3 bodies, and MF lenses, that formed the cornerstone of my Nikon experience. Wanting to lighten my load, I found the Fuji system, first with an X-E1, and now an X-T20, took me back a bit. As a long-time analog shooter, they just feel like a real camera, versus a computer with a lens attached. Something about the best camera is the one you have with you, and I found that I was seldom interested in carrying my D800, and respective optics, for 'fun' shooting. Now, with the lighter kit, I'm shooting more.
However, looking at your posted images, it seems you are willing to put some effort into making memorable images. What is the end game for you...small prints, large prints, or simply digital postings? IMO, better captures on my X-E1 were excellent to 11x14, and I'm hoping the files from my recently acquired X-T20 will let me go to 16x20.
All rambling aside, your first six images suggest that you might need to stay with Canon, and play with their excellent 17mm tilt/shift (plus maybe 24 tilt/shift), before deciding to jump ship. ...Show more →
Alanu, travelair and Eric, thanks for your personal experience and comparison of Canikon and Fuji-X. That's exactly what I looked for.
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itai195 wrote:
The main issue going with those three zooms is that the weight savings over a DSLR is a bit less. Of course, if the OP is comparing to a D750 + 16-35 + 70-200 f/4, then perhaps the 16-55 could be left out. Also, another way to fill the 24-85mm gap would be to get a 35/2 rather than a zoom, since it is tiny and light. Wide zoom, long zoom, and normal prime is actually a pretty common landscaper kit.
Thanks, mate. After some investigations I'm seriously considering 10-24 + 55-200 zoom set and 32/1.8 Touit lens to fulfill the gap in FL.
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Pavel wrote:
I love Fuji but I have to dissent with the normal "go jump in to the Fuji experience" a lot. Looking at the quality of your photos, you will find the Fuji sensor adequate, I believe, and near on par with what you have now. But for the weight advantage, which is often an illusion, you will be giving up a LOT of IQ compared to the D810 and especially the D850, likely, and especially in your niche shooting style. The X-T1 is a great sensor, don't get me wrong, especially if you like to shoot jpg's, but it just is not in the same league as the best from Nikon, not by a long shot. For starters the well-fill capacity of a base iso of 200 versus native iso 64 is a serious drag. But the Dynamic range and shadow recovery are also leagues apart. Normally that isn't such a big deal but seeing you (fantastic) photos, I think you would be impacted more than the average person.
On the specifics of the back focus, the latest crop of cameras from Fuji are getting there. One can disable the shutter from any focus and assign it to the back button. That button is a pita as far as size and location, but it is doable. the back button focusing ergonomics is what ruined any thought of upgrading to the X-T2 for me, but I don't work off a tripod and have specific needs (like shooting one handed) and I think that you would find it just fine.
Lastly I think that the ligher weight promise is a bit over-hyped. Sure you can save some weight in the bag, but it's not been a transformative thing for me. I keep the m43 system around for that. this may or may not apply to your set of values, but for me the X-T2 is too small for the larger zooms. You save weight but you wind up with a poorly balanced body/lens system compared to what you are used to. The Fuji strength is in it's primes. Once those long heavy zooms are put on - I feel most of the promise is lost. It sure is for me.
And then there is the fact that Fuji is a system that is "getting there" compared to Canon and Nikon. There are all sorts of odd behaviors. One that randomly comes to mind is "put it in manual focus" and the focus indicator disappears sort of design logic. Then there are the loose focus rings, probably because Fuji just had to cater to those who wanted 1/3 stops and would wail if only 1/2 stops were on the ring.
You are used to an optical viewfinder and you seem to shoot a lot at night. There are fabulous advantages to an electronic viewfinder, but trying to do astro-photography just about drove me insane with that over-bright thing which ruins my night visions. You may want to consider details like that, depending on exactly how you like to work.
Then there is the huge diference in battery life. The Fuji gets somewhere around 400 shots per 68 dollar battery, while the Nikon D850 gets about 1900 on a 55 dollar battery. Important if you shoot in cold weather. In Toronto in winter I got just over 80 shots with my X-pro 1 on a full charge. That was ok because by then my brains were frozen, but it might be worth factoring in.
Now this probably sounds kind of sour about Fuji, but there are simply the "look before you cross the road" points. In fact between Olympus, Fuji and Nikon, it's fuji that has my heart. But as with life a beautiful, exotic, temperamental and tempestuous woman, it's not aways as glorious and smooth sailing experience as is described in the literature. Lovers beware.  ( I wonder if I'm going to get in trouble for that allusion  )
So if you want a system where the focus is on light weight and very good image quality that you can print at decent sizes the Fuji is great. The zooms are good, but imho the primes are the real strength.
If you want lighter weight but want the most in IQ - well then if I were you drinking buddy, I'd tell you to go out and buy a Nikon D850 and suck it up on the weight aspect.  Zoom to zoom it will only be about three to five pounds. Eat some spinach, man.  
My vote. Rent for a trip or two.
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Pavel, thanks for an honest and unbiased opinion. The allusion is great and speaks for itself. Considering weight factor as the main switching force I have to admit it is not so huge as I could desire. With a tripod added it leads to 3.9kg (incl. 2 handgrips for 2 bodies and 3-4 spare batteries) while Canikon is around 4.5-4.6kg. 15% difference is not huge after all calculations. A pity. BTW I'm young and fit to lug around with a tripod and a backpack full of gear yet a low weight set-up is always welcome, you know
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Thank you all, guys, for your thoughts and shared experience. I'm very grateful. I think I should hold on a bit, take a pause in my GAS and pay more attention to editing my pictures brought from my last trip to Berlin and Dresden. Meantime I will continue reading forums and collecting opinions. Time will tell.
My main concern about Fuji-X for now is how malleable X-files are compared to ones from Canikon FF sensors.
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