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Benedictine
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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM


Okay I'm off after 12 years here. This site used to be good with nice folk who respected one another. I am afraid that that no longer seems to be the case. This experience has shown me that some folk are more interested in criticising than helping, perhaps it is the way of the world but I donít like it.

To all who have been helpful to me in the past, (especially my good friend Endre Balogh aka Strad) I give you my thanks.

I shall make no more comments or respond to anymore posts in this or any other topic but I shall continue to post in the weekly/monthly assignments until my subscription expires in December but I have cancelled my renewal.

Finally I wish you all well in your photography.



Sep 14, 2017 at 11:22 AM
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Benedictine wrote:
Okay I'm off after 12 years here. This site used to be good with nice folk who respected one another.


It still is like that. It's your call if you wish to leave, no one is asking you to.

FYI: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1508425



Sep 14, 2017 at 11:46 AM
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Sorry for your bad experience Benedictine. I did the best I could to accommodate you and see nothing out of the ordinary with your questions, or post in general, but you have made your decision and I applaud you for it. Sometimes we just mature as time goes by, and we know where to go to get beneficial advice, and leave the others behind.

Pibblepictures hasn't even been through the honeymoon period yet. I would wait for real praise once he gets acclimated to the site, if at all.



Sep 14, 2017 at 05:52 PM
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The 10-20mm & 8mm would be a good place to start selling, if you don't like ultrawide there's no reason really to keep them.

The 60mm & 50mm might be a little redundant, do you like one better than the other? Do you shoot macro?

The 75-300mm would be a good one to replace if you're looking to upgrade quality.



Sep 14, 2017 at 07:56 PM
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pshyvers wrote:
The 10-20mm & 8mm would be a good place to start selling, if you don't like ultrawide there's no reason really to keep them.

The 60mm & 50mm might be a little redundant, do you like one better than the other? Do you shoot macro?

The 75-300mm would be a good one to replace if you're looking to upgrade quality.


^^ good advice, too bad the OP is resistant to photo criticism / advice
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Sep 14, 2017 at 10:02 PM
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Thin skin in this day and age would make day to day life really tough.


Sep 15, 2017 at 12:09 AM
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Back to the OPs question....

I have the 24mm STM and love it for candid family shots on my SL1. It is a great value lens and I don't think it should be compared to and L lens. For what I use it for it is "good enough". As far as selling off all of your other glass and only keeping the 24 I would not do it. I have the 24 STM, the 50 STM , and the 85 f1.8 that I use as a prime kit for my SL1 and they are all "good enough" for me. I'm not a pro just a dad making photo albums so I don't need $20k tied up in glass. Out of the gear the OP listed I personally would keep the 24, the 50 or the 60 (not both), and the 10-20. The rest I would sell and pick up the 85 f1.8 and a 55-250 STM. YMMV

Marty



Sep 15, 2017 at 12:42 AM
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Owning the 18-55 & 55-250 STM, I find you have to work the image in processing to really bring out sharpness. It's just not a L lens.


Sep 15, 2017 at 01:41 AM
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IndyFab wrote:
Owning the 18-55 & 55-250 STM, I find you have to work the image in processing to really bring out sharpness. It's just not a L lens.


Not all L lenses are better than non-L, the 24-105L is a pretty average lens, especially at wideangle, I would expect the EF-S 24mm to outperform it on an APS-C camera, same for the 17-40L

Using DPP's DLO (digital lens optimiser) works wonders on the lenses you mention



Sep 15, 2017 at 06:11 AM
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dhphoto wrote:
Not all L lenses are better than non-L, the 24-105L is a pretty average lens, especially at wideangle, I would expect the EF-S 24mm to outperform it on an APS-C camera, same for the 17-40L

Using DPP's DLO (digital lens optimiser) works wonders on the lenses you mention


I agree with your comment regarding the 24-105. but you need less massaging than the STM's. I have a 17-40 that I wont sell, some have had issues, but I have a nice copy. I have a 15-85 & 17- 55 that are no slouches... The STM needs just a little extra massaging in post. Will look into loading DPP and give it a whirl. I read many times here that its just not that intuitive to work with.

Original 7D ~ 55-250 STM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM


The 7D gets such a bashing it really doesn't deserve


Sep 15, 2017 at 01:45 PM
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dhphoto wrote:
The 7D gets such a bashing it really doesn't deserve


So does the 24-105. See



Sep 15, 2017 at 03:29 PM
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If you like sharp lenses, you might want to hold on to that 60mm 2.8 macro. At 2.8 you'll get some excellent portraits, and at 5.6, it's crisp from edge to edge.


Sep 15, 2017 at 11:10 PM
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a) I love this lens!
b) That pic looks a bit soft
a) I'm done with this forum!




Sep 16, 2017 at 12:58 AM
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IbisTW wrote:

a) I love this lens!
b) That pic looks a bit soft
a) I'm done with this forum!

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/366/396/f8a.gif


lol, yeah it seems like a total overreaction to a valid observation. It's not like anyone called their kids ugly.


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Sep 16, 2017 at 03:51 AM
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IbisTW wrote:

a) I love this lens!
b) That pic looks a bit soft
a) I'm done with this forum!

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/366/396/f8a.gif


That made me laugh. Thank you!



Sep 16, 2017 at 05:30 PM
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Benedictine wrote:
Any thoughts would be appreciated.


You have a wide range covered. If you're not using certain focal lengths then maybe you should sell what you're not using.

I use a 24, a 50, a 100, and a 300. I've never really found the wide or super wide all that useful. I still shoot aps-c and I have two bodies mounted with what I think I'll need for each situation. I've been trying to shoot wildlife lately and vlog while I shoot and do time-lapses as well.

But I have been looking for a good deal on a 10-22. Lol.

When I take pictures at family events I use a 24 1.4 and that's it.

Anyways, hope that helps.





Sep 17, 2017 at 08:05 PM
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Clicky94 wrote:
I know the OP wishes to end this thread so if he doesn't want to reply then perhaps someone else could answer a nagging query I have about the first image.

The exposure information shows it was taken at ISO 1600 with -5 EV compensation. I can't understand the logic of this would it not be easier to reduce the ISO or am I missing the point.


I'll take a stab and guess at an answer.
I too was wondering why nothing was sharp in the two posted images.
With the settings you mentioned, does the following make sense.
Let's assume the poster was in Av mode and had also manually set ISO to 1600 as indicated.
This would leave the shutter speed floating for auto exposure.
Let's now assume he was in evaluative autoexposure.
So with all the dark shadows and bark, the AE would try to brighten the overall exposure, likely blowing out the faces and lighter colors. I speculate the photog then dialed in -EC to make the exposure as he wanted.
This would have resulted in an actual shutter speed of 1/8second and hence the overall softness.
This was either totally inadvertent, or would love an explanation of the reasoning.
I realize that when using flash, large -EC can be used to intentionally darken the background while using flash to stop action etc. Typically ghosting softness is avoided with at least -2 EC. In the first image there are highlights in the eyes that would indicate flash use unless they were din in Post.?





Sep 23, 2017 at 02:32 PM
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Thank you for the analysis. I hadn't looked at the settings.


Sep 23, 2017 at 02:41 PM
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I have the EF 70-300mm and it's an awful lens! I've been trying to sell it and can't at any price. Do you really want to keep it? The problem I see with it is that it's not the least bit sharp.

The other lens I know something about is the 50mm F/1.8. I've heard again and again that the 50mm F/1.4 is sharper and some would argue a lot sharper. I have the latter and I would say it's sharper than some of my "L" lenses if you have the right settings.

By the way, I totally agree with Indyfab about the 17-40mm F/4L. I have a good copy also and Iove the lens. I also have a 16-35mm F/4L and while the 16-35mm is sharper, the 17-40mm is plenty sharp except it gives photos a pleasing look as well. The 16-35mm is a better lens, but landscapes look more pleasing with the 17-40mm. I guess it's a different coating or something.

Just my 0.02. I don't know the other ones you list.



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