Home · Register · Join Upload & Sell

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
Username  

  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

  

Archive 2017 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS

  
 
dcperspective
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


Getting 6D MII- anybody have experience with both of these on Full Frame? Best I can tell from reviews and tests are they are both great performers and my decision may come down to size. Any thoughts? Especially interested in anyone shooting with the Sigma on the Canon DP system (5DMIV, 80D, 6DMII)

Thanks in advance.



Sep 09, 2017 at 08:18 PM
Johnny McClung
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


I've shot with both and the Sigma is more useful. The macro feature on the 24-70 f/4 is pretty cool, but nothing beats a true macro lens. I recommend buying the Sigma... (I'm also selling a new-ish one on the FM for-sale forum if you're interested) :-)


Sep 09, 2017 at 08:27 PM
Johnny McClung
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


... forgot to add, the Sigma is sharper as well and you can get shallower bokeh by going to the long tele end...


Sep 09, 2017 at 08:30 PM
pliukait
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


Have a read here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1504087

It's more or less specific to the 24-70mm



Sep 09, 2017 at 08:39 PM
johnctharp
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


dcperspective wrote:
...and my decision may come down to size.


...and weight!

The Sigma is a nice zoom in all respects, but it's also a chunker; the 24-70/4L is significantly smaller and lighter.

As for your question about Dual-Pixel compatibility, I'd recommend googling, but I will add that Sigma's modern ring-USM designs have behaved well.

(this assuming that you're looking for video tracking; even poorly behaved lenses behave 'well enough' for stills with DPAF)



Sep 09, 2017 at 11:05 PM
dcperspective
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


Yea- the more I look at it I'm probably going with the Canon to make it a more portable solution with a 70-200 4.0 IS I already have. Thanks everyone.



Sep 10, 2017 at 08:35 AM
jcolwell
Online
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


I replaced my 24-70/2.8L II with the 24-70/4L IS, and I'm very happy with the decision.


Sep 10, 2017 at 08:41 AM
Chris.P
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


I've got one for sale in the B&S section


Sep 10, 2017 at 10:10 AM
Kpjr
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


I had the Sigma Art 24-105 and can't say nicer things about it. Only sold it because of the newer 24-70 Art. The lens was superb. I'll never understand the idea of sacrificing image quality because of a slightly larger form factor. Most seem to complain about the size of these new lenses yet they have large 1-bodies (or 5Ds with battery grips). The size differences between comparable lenses is so minor that I'm not sure how it makes a difference in day to day life.


Sep 10, 2017 at 11:32 AM
Johnny McClung
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


Agree 100%. It's full-frame on a DSLR. Even Sony's mirrorless, small form factor bodies get paired with ginormous glass. I pixel peeped the 24-105 ART - it's a beaut!

Edited on Sep 12, 2017 at 08:20 AM · View previous versions



Sep 11, 2017 at 01:39 PM
johnctharp
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


Kpjr wrote:
I had the Sigma Art 24-105 and can't say nicer things about it. Only sold it because of the newer 24-70 Art. The lens was superb. I'll never understand the idea of sacrificing image quality because of a slightly larger form factor. Most seem to complain about the size of these new lenses yet they have large 1-bodies (or 5Ds with battery grips). The size differences between comparable lenses is so minor that I'm not sure how it makes a difference in day to day life.


Consider flexibility- even if a gripped 5D is used often, the grip can be removed for portability. The larger lens will always be larger.



Sep 11, 2017 at 09:03 PM
Kpjr
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


Consider flexibility- even if a gripped 5D is used often, the grip can be removed for portability. The larger lens will always be larger.

I understand that the grip CAN be removed, but I'm guessing most people that buy the grip have it attached 90+% of the time. Why else have it? When I had a smaller bodied DSLR, I always kept the added grips attached as it made the camera much easier to hold and use.

The size differences between these two is minimal. Dimensions of the Canon are 3.28" x 3.66" @ 600 grams. The Sigma is 3.5" x 4.3" @ 885 grams. (We are not evening comparing similar lenses. The Canon 24-105m L is 3.3" x 4.2" @ 670 grams while the Mk II is 3.29" x 4.65" @ 795 grams).

Even so, let's go back to the two the original poster is focused on....We're talking just over a half inch in physical size. Not sure about you, but that wouldn't even be noticeable in my hands. The weight difference is the bigger variable at around 10 oz (again, if you have a FF camera to begin with, is this really a factor?).

To each his own. I bought my DSLR/lenses to get the most out of this hobby, otherwise, I would just stick with my iPhone. Isn't that what photography is all about; capturing the best photo possible?



Sep 12, 2017 at 08:56 PM
rstoddard11
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


I have the Canon and really like it. The weather sealing factor is a major plus for me. I have used it in a blowing snow storm and have been rained on and it was fine. Super sharp at 5.6, that is the sweet spot.


Sep 12, 2017 at 09:08 PM
pshyvers
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


jcolwell wrote:
I replaced my 24-70/2.8L II with the 24-70/4L IS, and I'm very happy with the decision.


In brief, can you share why?



Sep 13, 2017 at 12:10 AM
jcolwell
Online
• • • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On
p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


jcolwell wrote:
I replaced my 24-70/2.8L II with the 24-70/4L IS, and I'm very happy with the decision.

pshyvers wrote:
In brief, can you share why?


Mostly, for the IS. I often shoot handheld in low light, and even with the excellent high ISO performance of my 6D cameras (and previously, 1DX), I find the three- or four-stop IS on the f/4 lens to give better results than the one-stop faster f/2.8 lens without IS. The same reasoning led me to sell my 24/1.4 and 35/1.4 lenses, and to go from the 16-35/2.8L II to 16-35/4L IS.

I sold the 24-70/2.8L II before getting the f/4L IS, and so I haven't done head-to-head comparisons, but comparative tests with common lenses show I'm not losing anything at f/8 and infinity, where I really can't say the 24-70/4L IS (on tripod, no IS, etc.) is much different from my Zeiss ZE lenses, at 25mm, 35mm, and 50mm. I expect there will be some more obvious differences at 50 MP or 60 MP, where I hope to soon be, and so the ZE's are staying with me, for now, at least. I'm definitely keeping my 70-200/2.8L IS II, because I value the subject isolation that it provides, but often don't need that for wider angle lenses, and when I do, I use prime lenses.

Of course, another important reason for going from the 24-70/2.8L II to 24-70/4L IS was the reduction in size and weight.



Sep 13, 2017 at 03:20 PM
pshyvers
Offline

Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Canon 24-70 4.0 IS L vs Sigma Art 24-105 4.0 IS


jcolwell wrote:
I'm definitely keeping my 70-200/2.8L IS II, because I value the subject isolation that it provides, but often don't need that for wider angle lenses, and when I do, I use prime lenses.


Pretty much what I was wondering about, thanks. The photostreams with 24-70 f/4 show very little subject isolation, and I can't decide whether I'd miss it for quick-moving portraiture.

Thanks!



Sep 14, 2017 at 12:10 PM





FM Forums | Canon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

    
 

You are not logged in. Login or Register

Username       Or Reset password



This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.