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D500 battery in a D850
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · D500 battery in a D850


The D500 battery is an EN-EL15, the D850 battery is an EN-EL15a.

What's the difference?



Sep 04, 2017 at 11:26 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · D500 battery in a D850


One is discontinued the other is not, and page 34 of the D850 brochure says they are both compatible. That does it for me, I am not concerned about the engineering changes.






Sep 04, 2017 at 11:54 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · D500 battery in a D850


Thanks. That's what I want to hear.


Sep 04, 2017 at 12:15 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · D500 battery in a D850


You have an older battery. If the back of it looks like this (Li-I on01), it may not work well with the D850. If Li-ion20 it should be fine.








Sep 04, 2017 at 01:17 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · D500 battery in a D850


Thanks for the info. I have the Li-ion20 variety.


Sep 04, 2017 at 01:22 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · D500 battery in a D850


That should be good with the D850, also. At least that's what Nikon stated at a D850 event last week that I attended.


Sep 04, 2017 at 01:27 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · D500 battery in a D850


According to the brochure, both En EL 15 and En El 15a can be used in the D850

The newer model EN EL 15a packs more power, and should/will give more shots per charge compared to the EN EL 15(reportedly, based on the CIPA, 1840 vs 1200)



Sep 04, 2017 at 01:57 PM
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Laslo Varadi wrote:
You have an older battery. If the back of it looks like this (Li-I on01), it may not work well with the D850. If Li-ion20 it should be fine.


What does may not work well mean? Less shots per charge?



Sep 10, 2017 at 12:23 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · D500 battery in a D850


The number of shots per charge difference (1840 vs 1200) is not all due to the battery but because the D850 doesn't have a built in flash (but D810 does). In CIPA testing of camera battery life, if the camera has a built in flash, every other shot must have flash on at full output which results in the smaller figure. The D850 may have other improvements in reducing power usage but this is a large part that explains why the figures are so different.

The a version of EN-EL15 is said to work better in the cold. The batteries have the same capacity.



Sep 10, 2017 at 12:33 PM
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Laslo Varadi wrote:
You have an older battery. If the back of it looks like this (Li-I on01), it may not work well with the D850. If Li-ion20 it should be fine.


If you own a D500 why would you have a Lion01 battery when Nikon offered to exchange all the Lion01 batteries you have as long as you have a proof of purchase (receipt) for your D500?

https://www.dpreview.com/news/0525212800/nikon-offers-free-battery-exchange-for-d500-owners



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · D500 battery in a D850


ilkka_nissila wrote:
The number of shots per charge difference (1840 vs 1200) is not all due to the battery but because the D850 doesn't have a built in flash (but D810 does). In CIPA testing of camera battery life, if the camera has a built in flash, every other shot must have flash on at full output which results in the smaller figure. The D850 may have other improvements in reducing power usage but this is a large part that explains why the figures are so different.

The a version of EN-EL15 is said to work better in the cold. The batteries have
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reference for: "The a version of EN-EL15 is said to work better in the cold" please?

until there is corroborating evidence from a reliable source you "can't get there from here".




Sep 10, 2017 at 12:49 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · D500 battery in a D850


Can someone tell me the difference between these two batteries? I have a D500 and a D750 with a D850 on the way - eventually. I want to be sure that both these batteries are good for the cameras I have. Thanks

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Sep 10, 2017 at 04:48 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · D500 battery in a D850


Those two are the same. The one with a serial stamp beginning with 2017 is from your d500. So it'll have far less usage.

The d850 battery will be a gray color and have more juice packed inside. But they will all work with each other.

blutch wrote:
Can someone tell me the difference between these two batteries? I have a D500 and a D750 with a D850 on the way - eventually. I want to be sure that both these batteries are good for the cameras I have. Thanks

B




Sep 10, 2017 at 05:09 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · D500 battery in a D850


There are threads on this already.

LI-ION20 and EN-EL15a are the same. They have different discharge profiles compared to LI-ION01 batteries to better cope with the D500/D850's extra electronics.



Sep 10, 2017 at 05:49 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · D500 battery in a D850


If you look closely, I was just asking if my two LI-ION20 batteries which look different were the same. I understand the difference between the three versions of the EN-EL15(a). Thanks

B



Sep 10, 2017 at 05:51 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · D500 battery in a D850


sjms wrote:
reference for: "The a version of EN-EL15 is said to work better in the cold" please?

until there is corroborating evidence from a reliable source you "can't get there from here".


You're correct this is not clear.

B&H product overview for EN-EL15 says "The 1900mAh Nikon EN-EL15 Lithium-Ion Battery is a rechargeable battery for the Nikon D500, D600, D610, D7000, D7100, D750, D800, D800E, D810 and the Nikon 1 V1 cameras. Lithium-ion batteries will not suffer from the adverse memory effects that are normally associated with other battery types."

and for the EN-EL15a it says "Power select Nikon DSLRs with this EN-EL15a Rechargeable Lithium-Ion Battery, which serves as a spare or replacement for the one provided with the camera. It is designed to offer long life and consistent power, even when you're shooting in cold conditions, and can be charged or discharged at any time without developing memory effects. The battery is compatible with the MH-25a charger."

I made the assumption that the differences in the text to indicate differences between the products, however of course I have no long-term side by side test data. It could be simply that B&H photo made new text and didn't intend the differences to reflect different battery performances.

It is also possible that the EN-EL15a is simply a different code to make it clear that if you buy this it won't be a Li-Ion-01 type (which has issues providing sufficient power to the D500) or one that is affected by one of the recalls of the EN-EL15 some years ago. But there can be differences we don't know about when Nikon doesn't exactly say it clearly.



Sep 11, 2017 at 11:24 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · D500 battery in a D850


I don't have the LiOn1 batteries any more. They were exchanged for the LiOn20's. the D500 is being disposed of today as part of a trade in for the D850😀.

sjms wrote:
If you own a D500 why would you have a Lion01 battery when Nikon offered to exchange all the Lion01 batteries you have as long as you have a proof of purchase (receipt) for your D500?

https://www.dpreview.com/news/0525212800/nikon-offers-free-battery-exchange-for-d500-owners




Sep 11, 2017 at 11:58 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · D500 battery in a D850


Laslo Varadi wrote:
I don't have the LiOn1 batteries any more. They were exchanged for the LiOn20's. the D500 is being disposed of today as part of a trade in for the D850😀.



Is this trade in still available? I totally missed it when I got my D500. I can't find it on nikonusa.com

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Sep 11, 2017 at 01:35 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · D500 battery in a D850


yes, contact Nikon by phone they will tell you what to do.


Sep 11, 2017 at 01:48 PM







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