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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


I have yet to shoot beyond ISO6400, not sure why.
Would appreciate impressions of image quality. I shoot mostly in good light, and bump ISO to get faster shutter speeds, but have not run up a condition (yet) where I need to double the ISO6400. I am sure I will though. I don't use in-camera NR either.
Thanks for a learned opinion.
John



Aug 30, 2017 at 06:33 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


Same here....I 've never had the need to shoot above 6400


Aug 30, 2017 at 06:51 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


Why not just try shooting at that ISO indoors to see what you think? That is probably the best and fastest way to get an impression of IQ, as you already have the equipment. I shoot the 7d2 at that ISO, and as the 5ds has almost the same pixel density, it will perform pretty closely. My tolerances might not match others though.


Aug 30, 2017 at 10:39 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


I have used the 7D2 at 12800 for a niece's wedding and found it to be a mixed bag. I am not a pro and was there as a guest (they hired a pro) and I sent them the images I took simply because I had them, so maybe I am not as demanding as you may be.
In semi-decent light where the high ISO gives a 'nice to have' shutter speed and where the subject was largely lighter tones, I found it quite acceptable under the circumstances. In low light and darker subjects the noise becomes noticeable so it is a choice of noise or detail smoothing.

But, as ever, some shots I thought were unacceptably noisy, my niece thought were great. That is often the case with people who are not photo enthusiasts - they want the image first and consider technicalities a 'nice to have'.

As Teamspeed says - we don't know how accepting you are of noise so it can be hard to advise. Just try it.



Aug 30, 2017 at 02:16 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


My samples from the 7D2, the 5DS should be close, perhaps a bit better after post processing due to the increased detail it can capture, allowing for aggressive-er NR.














Aug 30, 2017 at 02:53 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


There is really no fixed answer to the question. Whether the high ISO performance is good enough depends on what you're doing with the files and your tolerance for color and luminance noise. IMO the 5DSR is not a great camera at high ISO. I don't even like the results at 1600 but have gotten usable shots printed at 16x24 (without cropping) at ISO 2000 with NR in post. If you're printing large NR throws away a lot of the camera's resolution. OTOH it's possible to shoot higher ISO and print something around 12x18 with good results.


Aug 30, 2017 at 04:14 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


Looks quite good to my eye!
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Aug 30, 2017 at 11:32 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


I will shoot 25600 very often with the 5D4 as well, during fall sports. The season is coming up fast!


Sep 01, 2017 at 01:06 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


dmcphoto wrote:
There is really no fixed answer to the question. Whether the high ISO performance is good enough depends on what you're doing with the files and your tolerance for color and luminance noise. IMO the 5DSR is not a great camera at high ISO. I don't even like the results at 1600 but have gotten usable shots printed at 16x24 (without cropping) at ISO 2000 with NR in post. If you're printing large NR throws away a lot of the camera's resolution. OTOH it's possible to shoot higher ISO and print something around 12x18 with good results.


I agree, noise is very noticeable on the 5DSR, though I have only used LR for NR - I believe there is much better software out there for that...

TBH I find it noisy at ISO 400!




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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


Depends on the raw processor you use. I use DPP, the results seem to almost always seem superior to whatever Adobe puts out from Canon raw files.


Sep 01, 2017 at 03:17 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


Thank you all.
John



Sep 03, 2017 at 11:36 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


Opening RAW in DPP (all Canon cameras) and then sending to your favorite photo processing app seems to prevent large red dots in the shadows and mid-tones.


Sep 04, 2017 at 11:32 AM
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TeamSpeed wrote:
My samples from the 7D2, the 5DS should be close, perhaps a bit better after post processing due to the increased detail it can capture, allowing for aggressive-er NR.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Sports-Events/Mad-Ants-20152016/Feb-25-2016/i-pjxx4f2/0/50bbe6d0/X2/216A4644-X2.jpg

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On the third photo the cheerleader in the foreground appears to have some kind of wavy ripples on her inner right thigh. I think I have seen this kind of stuff before. Is this some kind of artifact or is it due to a wrinkle in the fabric hose she might be wearing?



Sep 05, 2017 at 06:03 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


dalite wrote:
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On the third photo the cheerleader in the foreground appears to have some kind of wavy ripples on her inner right thigh. I think I have seen this kind of stuff before. Is this some kind of artifact or is it due to a wrinkle in the fabric hose she might be wearing?

My best guess is that this is stepping at the edge of a shadow caused by multiple light sources that are somewhat closely & evenly spaced from each other. Iíve seen all kinds of strange effects from stadium lighting.



Sep 05, 2017 at 08:23 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


I use Canon software to get the raw files from the 5DSR, but then import said raw's to LR - are you guys saying it's better to send them to LR from DPP?




Sep 05, 2017 at 09:10 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


yes


Sep 05, 2017 at 10:41 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Anyone Shooting the 5DSR at ISO12800?


Do not judge the 5DsR's high ISO if you are using LR for NR, it's just not that good. Use DxO 11 PRIME NR and if necessary Topaz denoise in post.


Sep 06, 2017 at 12:28 AM







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