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Hard stop sure but not at infinity


Aug 24, 2017 at 08:14 PM
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Rajan Parrikar wrote:
No. For instance, on the Zeiss 50 Makro Planar, you turn the ring all the way to the hard stop and it is at infinity focus. It is very useful for quick shooting, or for night sky long exposure photography.


Tilt shifts are another game entirely. They need to be able to focus well past infinity



Aug 24, 2017 at 08:16 PM
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I have to say I am super excited by all these lenses - although sadly knowing Canon the prices will likely be eye-watering and I have already spent my (meagre) lens budget this year ...not that I really need another lens but...GAS...

I think I'm most psyched by the TSE 50mm though, as I already love my 50 2.5 macro for product photography and this will probably blow it out of the water +adjustable DOF.



Aug 24, 2017 at 08:16 PM
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Any speculation on price? They look great but also expensive.


Aug 24, 2017 at 08:18 PM
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RobDickinson wrote:
Tilt shifts are another game entirely. They need to be able to focus well past infinity


As a longtime user and owner of TSE 17, 24II, 45 and 90, I'm familiar with the sport. :-)



Aug 24, 2017 at 08:19 PM
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Canon have to be careful on price the Schneider ones are very good


Aug 24, 2017 at 09:01 PM
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Pete73 wrote:
Any speculation on price? They look great but also expensive.


My guess is:
85mm - $1800
50mm TSE - $2000
90mm TSE - $2000
135mm TSE - $2500

All MSRP. Expensive? Yes. But these are tools for professionals and very high end amateurs. Compared to what people spend on luxury cars I think photography is a fairly cheap hobby. The difference between a Honda and a BMW can easily be $20-30K. For $30k you can buy a whole canon outfit (outside of big whites). And I see people driving luxury cars in my town all the time.Yet whenever I pull out a 5D + 70-200 people think I am made of money.



Aug 24, 2017 at 09:09 PM
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It looks like the 85L 1.4 has a weather seal, which would mean it focuses internally


Aug 24, 2017 at 09:20 PM
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That 85L looks sweet and so glad it has IS. All the TS-E have appeal, but not sure which one I'd go for if I had to choose one, probably the 50 I guess. If I get a new 135mm it will be the Sigma or hopefully Canon are working on a true 135L replacement with IS, a twin to the 85 f/1.4L IS, say 135 f/1.8L APO IS would be magic and add 0.25x max magnification too Canon.


Aug 24, 2017 at 09:21 PM
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Milan Hutera wrote:
Not that I'm in the market for either of these, but I wonder what will happen to 85L 1,2, AKA "The Grenade". If they'll keep it in the line up or if it will be discontinued.


We're still working with rumors, but previous rumors claimed that this lens is not an outright replacement. One reason that keeping the 85/1.2L II alive is for video, where its unique look and USM motor are both very effective on Canon's Cinema EOS cameras.



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Peter Figen wrote:
I wonder also how close the T stops are on the two lenses - maybe closer than you think. It may be that practically speaking the new 1.4 lens is not much different in light gathering ability than the old 1.2, plus if it has less vignetting wide open that would affect the perception of speed as well.


If we were to use the 35/1.4L II as a guide, we might expect the overall T-stop to be lower at f/1.4 due to vignetting, which seems to be a trend for highly correct lenses as of late. Zeiss' Otus line also exhibit this behavior.

So the 85/1.2L II may very well have a greater transmission advantage over the incoming 85/1.4L IS than one would expect from the difference in marketed f-stops.



Aug 24, 2017 at 09:46 PM
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What a nice surprise - waking up at 5a.m. in a Bangkok hotel to this.

Sony users will be ecstatic at this latest news from their favourite lens maker.



Aug 24, 2017 at 10:32 PM
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Would love to know the tilt and shift specs on all three of these. The photos of the 90 and 135 suggest +/- 15deg of tilt?! Or does that look more like +/- 10deg?


Aug 24, 2017 at 10:49 PM
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Peter Figen wrote:
I wonder also how close the T stops are on the two lenses - maybe closer than you think. It may be that practically speaking the new 1.4 lens is not much different in light gathering ability than the old 1.2, plus if it has less vignetting wide open that would affect the perception of speed as well.

johnctharp wrote:
If we were to use the 35/1.4L II as a guide, we might expect the overall T-stop to be lower at f/1.4 due to vignetting, which seems to be a trend for highly correct lenses as of late. Zeiss' Otus line also exhibit this behavior.

So the 85/1.2L II may very well have a greater transmission advantage over the incoming 85/1.4L IS than one would expect from the difference in marketed f-stops.


Would like to see what the rear element looks like. Consider also the current 85L is 72mm filter and this one will be 77mm, assuming it's not just added girth/bulk due to IS and other components, like how all recent lenses seem to be getting fatter... I'd like to see better across-frame performance at wider apertures. I.e. a pretty flat field with consistent sharpness.

I will get one for sure. Already asked my dealer to put my name down. It will be useful for the usual weddings/events type work. Not sure what I'll do with the 85L v1... probably keep it for old times sake. It's such an iconic lens from the late 80s.

I would also like to see a 135L IS, but f/2 or f/2.5 to keep size reasonable. Actually I'd rather have a 70-135/2L IS...


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Aug 24, 2017 at 10:59 PM
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rscheffler wrote:
.... Actually I'd rather have a 70-135/2L IS...





Aug 24, 2017 at 11:01 PM
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matejphoto wrote:
Compared to what people spend on luxury cars I think photography is a fairly cheap hobby. The difference between a Honda and a BMW can easily be $20-30K. For $30k you can buy a whole canon outfit (outside of big whites). And I see people driving luxury cars in my town all the time.Yet whenever I pull out a 5D + 70-200 people think I am made of money.


I have a friend who competes in bass fishing tournaments. He hauls his $50,000 bass boat to the lake with an $80,000 pickup truck. BTW, he's a GS11 and his wife is a GS13.

Whenever I get G.A.S. I remind my wife of my friend.



Aug 24, 2017 at 11:03 PM
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Pete73 wrote:
Any speculation on price? They look great but also expensive.

matejphoto wrote:
Compared to what people spend on luxury cars I think photography is a fairly cheap hobby. The difference between a Honda and a BMW can easily be $20-30K. For $30k you can buy a whole canon outfit (outside of big whites). And I see people driving luxury cars in my town all the time.Yet whenever I pull out a 5D + 70-200 people think I am made of money.

dmacmillan wrote:
I have a friend who competes in bass fishing tournaments. He hauls his $50,000 bass boat to the lake with an $80,000 pickup truck. BTW, he's a GS11 and his wife is a GS13.

Whenever I get G.A.S. I remind my wife of my friend.


So combined they make over $120K US ($150K CAD, from my POV), ignoring any locality adjustment. Depending on where they live, their taxes/cost of living might be reasonable, too... It's prioritization. For me it's camera gear, others it's boats, cars, stereos, etc...

And who actually buys those vehicles (rather than leasing)? Sure, they're still expensive. But I suspect most shop based on monthly or bi-weekly payments and swap for the next shiny thing when the period is over. With camera gear, my feeling is leasing is extremely rare. Maybe a bit more common for working photographers, but still probably rare. So to drop $10-20K on a decent but not extravagant system will seem like a lot to others. A decent Leica system will come close to that boat.



Aug 24, 2017 at 11:15 PM
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Thanks Canon. Now about that 50mm f1.4, and a 55-60mm f2 2:1 Macro - if possible? Oh yeah, and remember you promised to clean up 85mm f1.8? Also, quite a few people would love to see your fantastic 135mm f2L reworked to kick butt.

That'd be great.

Thanks again.



Aug 25, 2017 at 11:45 AM
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What Canon don't have is a 105mm F1.4 or a 135mm F1.8.


Aug 25, 2017 at 12:49 PM
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SoundHound wrote:
What Canon don't have is a 105mm F1.4 or a 135mm F1.8.


Do Canon users suffer from not having a 135mm F1.8 despite the availability of a solid performer in the F2.0?

Without trying to start a war, what benefits are we missing out on?



Aug 25, 2017 at 01:05 PM
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