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Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II
  
 
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p.74 #1 · p.74 #1 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


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Press info, comes up live view on third push. Canon has their act together when it comes to the touch screen, more I use it better I like it. Have not tried it in review mode but it would be cool if it works there too.


Thanks ... will check.

Found it. !!!

Two button action. With the review at full view (i.e. not zoomed in) ... HOLD the review looking glass button, and THEN push the INFO button. Will cycle to the scroll down mode with histo, channels, settings, etc.



Aug 07, 2017 at 12:45 AM
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p.74 #2 · p.74 #2 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


Want some fun and interesting reading? From the 6D Release topic in 2012: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1149531

"The 6D is another clear example of Canon basically crippling a potentially very good camera by intentionally not including some features and specs that should and could very well be included and most likely are in their competitor's products. (namely the D600).

At best the 6D is a good backup body to my 5D3.

I like wifi and gps, but why isnt it included in the 5D3 also? Interchangeable screens are great but why include the capability in a lower end enthusiast model that attracts the customers that most likely are NEVER going to change a focusing screen and leave that capability out
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Aug 09, 2017 at 09:30 PM
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p.74 #3 · p.74 #3 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


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I understand that...but... watch the video, 42-55 seconds in. "That rain was really scary. But then I turned around to Eric Stoner from Canon and said 'Hey, is this thing weatherproof?' And he was like, 'Class 4 weatherproof, no problem.'"

http://www.facebook.com/bheventspace/videos/10158999366280462/

That's the statement for which I am looking at clarification.


I got an answer from Andrew MacCallum, Senior Technical Specialist at Canon, who was leading the B&H Photo walk mentioned in the video, here is his reply:



'A mis-spoken statement and I believe he was trying to paraphrase my comments. "Class 4 water proof" is not actually a rating Canon uses.

I was actually leading the photo walk and yes, we did have a pretty heavy downpour. Since our attendees were using Canon EF 24-105 F4L IS II lenses, we were fairly safe to use the cameras out in the open once we let the HEAVY rains pass.

Canon does not state a specific weather resistance "level" or rating. However, the weather sealing of the EOS 6D Mark II is the same as the current line of EOS bodies including the EOS 5D Mark IV and EOS 7D Mark II.

It should be known, that while we do everything we can to help prevent dust and moisture from entering the camera, we cant completely "seal" the camera and you should take precautions to help prevent any dust or moisture from entering the camera- use of a rain cover or other protection is still suggested.'





Aug 28, 2017 at 10:13 PM
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p.74 #4 · p.74 #4 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


Here is a review that focuses on the dynamic range of the 6DII vs 5DIV and 80D.




Aug 31, 2017 at 01:50 PM
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p.74 #5 · p.74 #5 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


Dustin does very good down to earth reviews. Though "good enough" is disappointing in my mind for the 6D2.


Aug 31, 2017 at 02:28 PM
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p.74 #6 · p.74 #6 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


Interesting findings and a good honest review. It appears that in real world shooting both the 6DII as well as the proclaimed superior DR of the 80D both struggled to regain highlights after a -3 stop push. And the vastly superior sensor on the 5DIV didn't do that much better. Considering the price differences I sure would hope you gain something for an extra $1,300.

So far I've had no issues what so ever with this new body. I've been getting great results and it's a joy to finally have a FF with a flip/tilt screen.


I liked his one comment at the 16 min mark, saying he's a good photographer and never needs to recover terribly from over or underexposure. A little hint for our little Nikon DR fanatic friends.



Sep 01, 2017 at 02:59 AM
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p.74 #7 · p.74 #7 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


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I liked his one comment at the 16 min mark, saying he's a good photographer and never needs to recover terribly from over or underexposure. A little hint for our little Nikon DR fanatic friends.


Isn't the real point of more DR, reducing the need for graduated ND filters and exposure bracketing?



Sep 06, 2017 at 10:03 PM
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p.74 #8 · p.74 #8 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


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Isn't the real point of more DR, reducing the need for graduated ND filters and exposure bracketing?


Yep of course a 'good photographer' never has to shoot a wide dynamic range and can with just the power of their photographic skill even out that lighting at sunrise etc



Sep 06, 2017 at 11:20 PM
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p.74 #9 · p.74 #9 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


pliukait wrote:
Want some fun and interesting reading? From the 6D Release topic in 2012: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1149531



People have a tendency to forgive features that weren't included, however it may upset more and have longer term consequences if people have to take a step laterally or even backward with sensor/IQ performance. It is a bit different now as well, a) there wasn't a new sensor design offered in 3-4 other cameras at the time the 6D came out and b) the 6D was a new offering with nothing to base itself against.

The 6D2 is a successor now, and in a sea of other bodies offering a newer sensor. If you dig through the facts of the matter, you find that the 2 releases are not identical in nature. 5 years is a LONG time in technological age, so expectations run quite high for the 6D2, especially given what is available on other bodies that cost less than the 6D2.



Sep 08, 2017 at 11:36 AM
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p.74 #10 · p.74 #10 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


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Isn't the real point of more DR, reducing the need for graduated ND filters and exposure bracketing?


It can help reduce the need for graduated filters or exposure blending, but so far there are no cameras out there that have enough DR to completely eliminate that need... and I continue to see lots of really horrible results from people who seem to think it can.



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p.74 #11 · p.74 #11 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


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It can help reduce the need for graduated filters or exposure blending, but so far there are no cameras out there that have enough DR to completely eliminate that need... and I continue to see lots of really horrible results from people who seem to think it can.


Of course, but it certainly would be beneficial to start out with a top quality file versus a step backward. It has been five years after all, and they've proved they can do better.



Sep 11, 2017 at 03:44 PM
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p.74 #12 · p.74 #12 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


scott f wrote:
Of course, but it certainly would be beneficial to start out with a top quality file versus a step backward. It has been five years after all, and they've proved they can do better.


I think Canon RAW files are pretty much top quality to begin with... no black point clipping, baked-in noise reduction, bizarre colour casts, 12-bit (or worse) lossy compression shenanigans, and for the most part you are starting with sharper images.



Sep 11, 2017 at 09:14 PM
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p.74 #13 · p.74 #13 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


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I think Canon RAW files are pretty much top quality to begin with... no black point clipping, baked-in noise reduction, bizarre colour casts, 12-bit (or worse) lossy compression shenanigans, and for the most part you are starting with sharper images.



In comparison to what? Certainly not my a7r2 file.



Sep 11, 2017 at 09:27 PM
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p.74 #14 · p.74 #14 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


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In comparison to what? Certainly not my a7r2 file.


I was referring to my A7RII/A7II/A6500 files - I have no idea what you're doing with yours. If the Sony stuff had any redeeming qualities, I would have probably kept it.



Sep 11, 2017 at 09:43 PM
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p.74 #15 · p.74 #15 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


no baked in NR on the a7r2, I do see that on the a7s though.
a7r had odd colours at higher iso sure, not base iso
14 bit uncompressed raws (I wish they would get a clue on lossless compression!)
and oh 14 stops of dr.

I shoot with a 6d and a7r/a7rmk2 and for landscapes the a7r/2 murder the 6d



Sep 11, 2017 at 09:56 PM
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p.74 #16 · p.74 #16 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


molson wrote:
I was referring to my A7RII/A7II/A6500 files - I have no idea what you're doing with yours. If the Sony stuff had any redeeming qualities, I would have probably kept it.


Silly comment. Be serious please. I do agree about Sony struggling with RAW files. It took a long time to get them to lossless files, and now they have a "star eater" algorithm. Canon is good quality, just not top tier sensor performance that many would expect at this point.



Sep 11, 2017 at 11:06 PM
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p.74 #17 · p.74 #17 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


I keep my 6d for astro but swapping that for a 5d4 soon


Sep 11, 2017 at 11:08 PM
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p.74 #18 · p.74 #18 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


Could use some advise. I currently have a canon 60D and Tamron 200-500 lens. Need to upgrade, lens and camera slow- most of my photography is birding and wildlife, usually at full zoom. Considered the new Tamron 150-600 gen 2 for the zoom - but hear its soft at the high end and still not super fast. To go canon the 100-400 sounds ok, but can't use the 1.4 TC with the 60D, so would be stuck at 400-
Although had planned on just upgrading lens now, body later, with the 6Dmk2- considering body now and maybe lens too- Budget an issue- Although not a novice, still have a lot to learn about using settings effectively. I tend to hand hold, due to where I am using the camera- often I do not have a tripod/monopod with me. I am not overly big, and have small hands, so weight and size of grip is important. AF speed and picture quality are of prime importance, as well as reach. Suggestions? Can the new 6D use the 100-400 with 1.4 TC? I also have a telescope and want to get into astrophotography, so do not want to limit that with choice of body- I do understand I need to look at a different lens for that.



Sep 17, 2017 at 12:58 AM
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p.74 #19 · p.74 #19 · Official: Canon Announces the EOS 6D Mark II


What sort of astro are you wanting to do? If telescope work with trackers etc, I'd suggest a 7dmk2, if you can survive without the flip screen. It handles longer exposures better than the 6d over 30 seconds or so, from what I've read

Others might be able to give you a better run down on the af vs the 6dmk2, but the spread would be better at least.

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Could use some advise. I currently have a canon 60D and Tamron 200-500 lens. Need to upgrade, lens and camera slow- most of my photography is birding and wildlife, usually at full zoom. Considered the new Tamron 150-600 gen 2 for the zoom - but hear its soft at the high end and still not super fast. To go canon the 100-400 sounds ok, but can't use the 1.4 TC with the 60D, so would be stuck at 400-
Although had planned on just upgrading lens now, body later, with the 6Dmk2- considering body now and maybe lens too- Budget
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