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MedicineMan404
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Remember guys I'm just a snapshooter. This is all fun and games for me so really no serious C/C.
The image below plucked from 15 shot as the buteo was coming in. He was in a tree 30 feet from the feeding tower and once he jumped I had less than a second to get on him, then road him with the shutter until he saw me and pulled away.

You can see 13 of the shots in the sequence on my site, I just don't post up repetitive shots on my Flickr-
Click on each picture to enlarge.
http://www.stopitdown.com/2017/06/20/af-tracking-with-the-sony-a9/

Sony ILCE-9
FE 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 G OSS
ƒ/5.6 267.0 mm 1/2500 250 Flash (off, did not fire

Buteo face to face by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr



Jun 20, 2017 at 04:21 PM
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good job!

How are you liking the a9?



Jun 20, 2017 at 06:43 PM
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Thanks Nekro.
I've only had a total of 30 min's actually using it.
I think it will make a great traveling companion with the A7Rii. One for
landscaping, one for BIF.
The alpha9 itself is truly something to behold if you are a mirrorless fan.

I already have a complaint though. From years of using other Sonys I'm used to
FN button to change drive mode. Now it appears I have to use the top left dial. Well
truthfully for my intended use of this camera it will live in high FPS mode so it really
matters not.

I was surprised to see Adobe/Bridge already had the update; all I had to do was go to
the Adobe cloud and update my pc.

Now I and many others wait out the FE100-400. I've got both TCs ordered for it, not hoping
a lot for the 2.0--that will be hail mary situation---but the 1.4 should work a charm; and if
as good as the EOS 100-400ii + 1.4TCii I'll be very happy. The Canon zoom with TC is the
benchmark for that type of lens in my opinion.

Oh. I did sit for 40 ish min's in the overcast Sun and never saw any warning and I haven't update the FW yet.




Jun 20, 2017 at 06:51 PM
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Quote:
"I already have a complaint though. From years of using other Sonys I'm used to
FN button to change drive mode. Now it appears I have to use the top left dial. Well
truthfully for my intended use of this camera it will live in high FPS mode so it really
matters not."

I am afraid we'll have to get used to it.
The old method was more to my liking.
Great shot Robert. Did the A9 track okay?

K-H.



Jun 20, 2017 at 09:09 PM
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I wish I had a neighbourhood RTH

Thanks for sharing your first impressions.



Jun 20, 2017 at 09:26 PM
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Thanks Geoff, but don't you have your own personal eagle
K-H, tracking was remarkable---this from me coming from NEX-5,6,7,a-6000, a-6300, A7S, A7R, A7Rii....can't say compared to a99ii or 1DXii yet but so far my gut says outstanding. Did you look at the series posted on my blog?
Not selling the 1DXii yet guys but I love the weight.

Another thing about the image posted above for those curious. I pulled exp 0.7-1 stop and shadows 30 percent. I was expecting him to come from a copse of evergreens and not in the crap sky.



Jun 20, 2017 at 09:42 PM
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Yup, I looked at the series, would have picked the same frame you did.
Also the Lexar 64GB 2000x is tops, as we learned from arbitrage's post.

K-H.



Jun 20, 2017 at 10:10 PM
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Yes, have the Lexar 2000x 128gb in the bottom slot.
JPG to the top, raw to the bottom BUT, there is something really good
about the JPGs coming SOOC.

So K-H, agree? Tracking not bad at all, basically coming straight at me.



Jun 20, 2017 at 10:16 PM
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Robert, tracking seems fine. For me the A9 is the first mirrorless camera that seems to accomplish that.
Tracking Hummers in Flight seems a bit more challenging, depending on where the initial focus was.
Thanks for pointing out the good SOOC JPGs. I have read similar comments before.
So far I have been shooting raws only, I will add the JPGs now to see for myself.

K-H.

Edited on Jun 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM · View previous versions



Jun 20, 2017 at 10:34 PM
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I personally like the new dial more.


Jun 20, 2017 at 10:42 PM
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K-H, you know how little I truly know about all this, but I shot a Robin perched on the fence.
I processed the raw and did like I've read elsewhere and compared my final to the jpg version then felt I'd wasted time in raw. That approach would not have worked with the hawk above unless I can pull a whole stop out of a jpg. Think that's possible? Only way to find out.......
Regardless, tomorrow I'll try a low light high iso and see what can be pulled.



Jun 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM
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nekrosoft13 wrote:
I personally like the new dial more.


Nekro, I'm just a creature of habit. I'll get over it



Jun 20, 2017 at 11:16 PM
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MedicineMan404 wrote:
K-H, you know how little I truly know about all this, but I shot a Robin perched on the fence.
I processed the raw and did like I've read elsewhere and compared my final to the jpg version then felt I'd wasted time in raw. That approach would not have worked with the hawk above unless I can pull a whole stop out of a jpg. Think that's possible? Only way to find out.......
Regardless, tomorrow I'll try a low light high iso and see what can be pulled.


Robert, of course there are limits of what can be pulled out of a JPG file.
There are even limits what can be done with raws.
Here in NM I encounter DR limitations all the time.
I consider iSO up to 25,600 useable from the A9.
Of course, that doesn't look like an ISO 640 image.
BTW, you know a lot more than you pretend to know. My sense.

K-H.

PS: My tracking example of a dove.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1255248/2247#14073738



Jun 20, 2017 at 11:35 PM
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https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2017-06-21-A99028-FE-MACRO-G-OSS-Two-Doves-Bees/i-RG3rzP2/1/e41bf513/O/_DSC9012%20Bees%201600x1600%20OOC.jpg
Sony ILCE-9 + FE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OSS @ ISO 640, f/5.6, 1/1000s.

This image is from a JPG, slightly modified in C1P.
I was playing around and had set Creative Style Standard to +1, +1, +3.

This is the image derived from the raw file.
https://photos.smugmug.com/KHW/Pics-by-Date/2017-06-21-A99028-FE-MACRO-G-OSS-Two-Doves-Bees/i-SvmrV3T/0/acf59fe4/O/_DSC9012%20Bees%201600x1600%20ARW.jpg

K-H.



Jun 21, 2017 at 12:56 PM
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I hope those aren't Africanized bees, you are awfully close. I stay away and so do the hummers when my feeder is full of hornets and yellowjackets.


Jun 21, 2017 at 01:02 PM
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mogul wrote:
I hope those aren't Africanized bees, you are awfully close. I stay away and so do the hummers when my feeder is full of hornets and yellowjackets.


Thanks. Yeah! Great point. Luckily these aren't Africanized bees.
A beekeeper has set up a few beehives in the neighborhood.
We have yellow and black honeybees,

There are also hornets and yellowjackets.
The hummers stay away from all of them, but manage to fetch some sugar water.

K-H.




Jun 21, 2017 at 01:11 PM
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I have to start paying attention more. Ended up with 50 shots of so that looked incredibly dark but I wasn't really paying attention because it was so bright out on Sunday. Yeah, I had knocked the EV dial down to -2, haha.


Jun 21, 2017 at 04:23 PM
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K-H, I've been a beekeeper for almost 10 years so I appreciate your shot! Sadly I lost 5 hives to bears

TMaG, that dial is kinda stiff, hard to knock out of position--but it doesn't lock. How did you know it down -2ev ? Just curious, I'd not want to do the same.

A fantastic revelation ---for me--- The big dial on the back is more pronounced. I've assigned it to aperture..which is the way I have all my Canons, front dial shutter...manual of course. I know there are better ways but that's what I'm used to with auto-iso. I am already seeing auto-iso with a limit of 25K, damn!
Of course we all have different sensitivities to noise right...



Jun 21, 2017 at 06:17 PM
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K-H
You might have an interest.
My cat Milo at ISO 25,600.
What can you say about this image?
http://www.stopitdown.com/2017/06/22/sony-a9-iso-25600/



Jun 22, 2017 at 06:25 PM
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MedicineMan404 wrote:
K-H
You might have an interest.
My cat Milo at ISO 25,600.
What can you say about this image?
http://www.stopitdown.com/2017/06/22/sony-a9-iso-25600/


Thanks Robert. Actually an interesting exercise.
You seem to have gone the JPG route.
On page 2 of the first menu did you have high ISO noise reduction on?
Also where do the vertical and horizontal stripes in the OOF background area come from?

So, I would approach this differently.
I would start with shooting raw, lossy compressed, or even better uncompressed.
Then high ISO noise reduction in camera is ignored. Good that's what you want. I would keep that setting on Off.
When taking the raw image I would try to get the cat properly exposed.
In post you don't want to pull shadows up. That only increases noise.
Pulling highlights down in post is not a problem. That doesn't increase noise.
Getting the cat exposed correctly at ISO 25,600 is the way to go.
There will be quite a bit of noise at the pixel level.
No problem, we'll get rid of that later.

So I would use the latest version of Capture One Pro 10.
Keep sharpening and noise reduction at their default settings. We take care of that with Nik.
On page 3 of the C1P10 tools you can play with AWB. Ignore that for right now.
There are 3 color wheels below the WB.
The right most one has a slider for changing the high intensity light level.
If necessary pull that down, then go to page 4 for typical adjustments, also on page 5.

Then I send a tif file, 16bit, RGB to CS6. (I shoot RGB, not sRGB.)
First thing I do is use Define 2 of Nik, to smooth the noise in the OOF background area.
The noise in the cat is probably fine, don't make it more visible by smearing it.
I know if I shot with my A9 and 90/2.8 MACRO G OSS the infocus areas would be incredibly sharp.
So skip sharpening for now.

Back to CS6. Combine the layers, maybe try Auto Contrast.
Switch to 8 bit from 16 bit, and switch from RGB to sRGB.
Save the finished JPG image.

I am by no means an expert in any of this.
But this is how I get by.

K-H.



Jun 22, 2017 at 09:19 PM
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