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, you know how it is, Anurag ó do as I say, not as I do!

nandadevieast wrote:
Yes, indeed, you said it and exactly what I am doing now, should have listened to you.
At that time, even you sold your 100-400 so I was shaky.
I ended up owning a 300 in the whole process which I don't regret one bit. I will see down the line which one is better for me, hopefully by using them in the wild and not on paper. This duplication doesn't bother me as much as 12-100 and 40-150 would have.
In any case I have bought into M43 for wildlife and nature so having a tele prime and also
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Jun 26, 2017 at 04:20 PM
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Good choice. It is the only choice that gives you a 100mm to 400mm focal-length range without screwing around with TC's. Plus all those odd focal-lengths in between can be very helpful for precise compositions without having to change your distance to subject.

Besides that, it is a better lens than many think.



Jun 27, 2017 at 02:14 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
Good choice. It is the only choice that gives you a 100mm to 400mm focal-length range without screwing around with TC's. Plus all those odd focal-lengths in between can be very helpful for precise compositions without having to change your distance to subject.
Plus all those odd focal-lengths in between can be very helpful for precise compositions without having to change your distance to subject.
Besides that, it is a better lens than many think.


Good point, I end up shooting my PL100-400 at other than the long end more than at the extremes.



Jun 27, 2017 at 03:38 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
Good choice. It is the only choice that gives you a 100mm to 400mm focal-length range without screwing around with TC's. Plus all those odd focal-lengths in between can be very helpful for precise compositions without having to change your distance to subject.

Besides that, it is a better lens than many think.


I agree and am only an enthusiast, but I love the 100-400. I used it as my primary lens in Tanzania last year. There are many travel situations where you simply can't "zoom with you feet" so I'd rather have a "soft" shot at 400mm than no shot at all. These are some shots taken at 400mm (resized for the web) that I feel printed out at 13 x 19 beautifully.


















Jun 28, 2017 at 05:36 PM
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Hi guys,
My dealer had a copy of 100-400 which he had ordered after the GH5 launch here in India. The copy was for his personal use. He did give it to me for a day yesterday and today, along with the 40-150 Pro (without the TC).

Fortunately, I also have a 300 Pro and I have been playing with it for couple weeks now (on my feeder) so I have a good handle on that lens.

In brief, the Panasonic 100-400 didn't do it for me. I just couldn't get good shots with it. Maybe it was a very brief experience or maybe I was coming from 300 Pro, I don't know the reason..,

1) It was unpredictable (in my hands)
2) I got good shots at 100 mm but no luck at 300 and 400mm
3) I was on ISO 6400 easily. The lens is dark.

40-150 was a breeze. Sharp, spot on, doesn't need much light. I was very happy with it. Very easy and simple lens to use.

I have asked the dealer to get me the kit which comes with MC14, that will save me money also.

I can't buy 100-400 anymore. I own 300 anyways so 40-150 with TC will give me a 100-400 option. And its 2.8 and these cameras really need light so that's good.

I can also use TC on 300.

I really wanted to buy that lens.



Jun 28, 2017 at 05:58 PM
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You are all set once you get your MC-14. Your next purchase could be one of the f1.2 lenses i.e. the Nocticron 42.5 or the budget-priced Mitakon version; the Olympus 25/1.2 ... and Olympus will shortly release their 17/1.2 lens.

nandadevieast wrote:
Hi guys,
My dealer had a copy of 100-400 which he had ordered after the GH5 launch here in India. The copy was for his personal use. He did give it to me for a day yesterday and today, along with the 40-150 Pro (without the TC).

Fortunately, I also have a 300 Pro and I have been playing with it for couple weeks now (on my feeder) so I have a good handle on that lens.

In brief, the Panasonic 100-400 didn't do it for me. I just couldn't get good shots with it. Maybe it was a very
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Jun 28, 2017 at 08:25 PM
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Imagemaster wrote:
Good choice. It is the only choice that gives you a 100mm to 400mm focal-length range without screwing around with TC's. Plus all those odd focal-lengths in between can be very helpful for precise compositions without having to change your distance to subject.

Besides that, it is a better lens than many think.


I agree 100% with you on this.
I had the Olympus 300mm and the MC-14 and the PanaLeica 100-400mm at the same time and ran side by side tests.
At 300mm they were identical at f5.6 and f5.7 repectively, and at 420mm f5.6 on Olympus 300mm+TC and 400mm f8 on the PanaLeica I could not see any difference either. Since I like zoom lenses a lot more than fixed focus ones that was an easy decision for me which one to keep.
I am as happy as I can be with the 100-400.



Jun 29, 2017 at 02:01 AM
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Julius wrote:
I had the Olympus 300mm and the MC-14 and the PanaLeica 100-400mm at the same time and ran side by side tests.
At 300mm they were identical at f5.6 and f5.7 repectively, and at 420mm f5.6 on Olympus 300mm+TC and 400mm f8 on the PanaLeica I could not see any difference either. Since I like zoom lenses a lot more than fixed focus ones that was an easy decision for me which one to keep.
I am as happy as I can be with the 100-400.


The images I got with the 300mm only looked better than those from the zoom due to the better background blur. Having the versatility of the zoom and not having to deal with TC's and not having 100-300mm covered with the same one lens, made choosing the zoom a no-brainer for me.

Then there are some that say the prime is better just because they have to justify their purchase of it.



Jun 29, 2017 at 02:55 AM
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Tony what you say is correct, and your images speak for it.
It could have been my inability mostly to employ the correct technique. I can't rush and proclaim the lens to be a dud in a days use. But I figured quickly that it's a difficult lens for someone like me who is inexperienced in dealing with 800mm length.
I have noticed that these camera's quickly run up the ISO scale and I found 40-150 to be more helpful in that regard and overall an easier lens to use.
Mind you that I was not looking for a super tele lens, or deciding between 300 and 100-400. I was looking for a 100-400 solution (100-200 in micro four thirds parlance).

Imagemaster wrote:
The images I got with the 300mm only looked better than those from the zoom due to the better background blur. Having the versatility of the zoom and not having to deal with TC's and not having 100-300mm covered with the same one lens, made choosing the zoom a no-brainer for me.

Then there are some that say the prime is better just because they have to justify their purchase of it.




Jun 29, 2017 at 03:30 AM
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You mean 50-200mm?


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Selling 300
Buying 100-400
Der aaye, durust aaye

mitesh wrote:
Hate to say "I told you so", but I did tell you so:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1476235/0#13927197







Nov 10, 2017 at 12:55 PM
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Been all over the 300F4, PL 100-400 and trying to decide between them. Panasonic just threw me an unexpected curve ball and released the 200 2.8 which looks way to interesting to just pass up due to high price. Waiting for some reviews and then I'll make a choice I believe.

The thing is, using an older E-M1 (not Mark II) I could get the PL 100-400 and the G9 (or E-M1.2) for a couple of hundred more then just the 200 2.8.

Then again, there is no substitute for a truly great lens



Nov 10, 2017 at 03:32 PM
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200 looks like a great lens. It could be the sharpest lens ever made at this price.
Just that, a FF 200mm 2.8 L (Canon) costs 800 dollars and its very good, as good as their 135/2 L which is very good.
So this has got to be record breaking sharp.


Wilbus wrote:
Been all over the 300F4, PL 100-400 and trying to decide between them. Panasonic just threw me an unexpected curve ball and released the 200 2.8 which looks way to interesting to just pass up due to high price. Waiting for some reviews and then I'll make a choice I believe.

The thing is, using an older E-M1 (not Mark II) I could get the PL 100-400 and the G9 (or E-M1.2) for a couple of hundred more then just the 200 2.8.

Then again, there is no substitute for a truly great lens




Nov 10, 2017 at 03:43 PM
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nandadevieast wrote:
200 looks like a great lens. It could be the sharpest lens ever made at this price.
Just that, a FF 200mm 2.8 L (Canon) costs 800 dollars and its very good, as good as their 135/2 L which is very good.
So this has got to be record breaking sharp.


Not only record breaking sharp but simply record breaking with very few flaws. For the price, I expect nothing but stellar performance, sharpness, contrast, micro contrast, ca-control and not the least, beautiful bokeh. If it fails to deliver on the bokeh quality, I would say one is probably better of with the Olympus 300 F4 for long lens use.



Nov 10, 2017 at 04:51 PM
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I have sold my 300/4, luckily without any loss. I rethought the whole thing and now I am buying Pana 100-400. My kit will look like:
EM1.2
12-100 Pro
100-400 PL
42.5/1.7
20/1.7

I also sold my 40-150 Pro recently. Most all my pictures happen while traveling and I canít have 3 behemoths in my bag, so 100-400 is a better idea for me despite 300mm being sharper and all.

I was also considering RX104 and even 75-300 Oly (light lens).



Nov 10, 2017 at 05:30 PM
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nandadevieast wrote:
I have sold my 300/4, luckily without any loss. I rethought the whole thing and now I am buying Pana 100-400. My kit will look like:
EM1.2
12-100 Pro
100-400 PL
42.5/1.7
20/1.7

I also sold my 40-150 Pro recently. Most all my pictures happen while traveling and I canít have 3 behemoths in my bag, so 100-400 is a better idea for me despite 300mm being sharper and all.

I was also considering RX104 and even 75-300 Oly (light lens).



I don't think I could sell my 40-150 unless I change system. Most of my photos are shot with that one lens and I love it. Guess I could change it for a PL 50-200 if they ever release it and the bokeh is better, otherwise the 40-150 has got a permanent place in my bag.

I don't do much travel but enjoy adventures and hiking which makes m43 ideal. Even with the bigger lenses it is still a small system. 12-40 and 40-150 makes for a superb 24-300 F2.8 coverage in a small and light package even when hiking with lots of other gear.

I totally understand your kit though and think it looks like a really great setup.

I am torn between getting a G9 or a telephoto lens (200 F2.8 or 300 F4).



Nov 10, 2017 at 06:35 PM
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Bingo! People complain about the size of the 40-150, 300/4, 200/2.8 and the f1.2 lenses but (a) these lenses are still significantly smaller and lighter than FF lenses, and (b) there are other smaller/lighter options if one needs something smaller and lighter.

Wilbus wrote:
Even with the bigger lenses it is still a small system.






Nov 10, 2017 at 06:46 PM
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bobbytan wrote:
Bingo! People complain about the size of the 40-150, 300/4, 200/2.8 and the f1.2 lenses but (a) these lenses are still significantly smaller and lighter than FF lenses, and (b) there are other smaller/lighter options if one needs something smaller and lighter.


Exactly!



Nov 10, 2017 at 07:25 PM
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Rasmus, 40-150 is a great lens and I didnít want to sell that. But unlike you I have 12-100 which has considerable overlap. I have never felt the need to use anything else. Also itís stabilisation is superb. Thatís the reason I sold it.
Till now of all the lenses I own, I have used 12-100 the most, 20 also quite a bit. 40-150 the least. Recently on a Himalayan trip i didnít even take it and rather took 300.
But if I had 12-40 like you, then I wouldnít sell it.

Wilbus wrote:
I don't think I could sell my 40-150 unless I change system. Most of my photos are shot with that one lens and I love it. Guess I could change it for a PL 50-200 if they ever release it and the bokeh is better, otherwise the 40-150 has got a permanent place in my bag.

I don't do much travel but enjoy adventures and hiking which makes m43 ideal. Even with the bigger lenses it is still a small system. 12-40 and 40-150 makes for a superb 24-300 F2.8 coverage in a small and light package even when hiking
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Nov 11, 2017 at 05:57 AM
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Indeed, कभी नहीं से देर भली 😁

nandadevieast wrote:
Selling 300
Buying 100-400
Der aaye, durust aaye





Nov 11, 2017 at 06:23 AM
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