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p.26 #1 · p.26 #1 · Canon Summer


Yes, Ilya, those pictures are missing for me as well.


Oct 03, 2017 at 09:07 AM
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p.26 #2 · p.26 #2 · Canon Summer


Me too.


Oct 03, 2017 at 09:24 AM
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p.26 #3 · p.26 #3 · Canon Summer


Well, I fixed it; turns out the FM forum now properly catches https:// images - the fact of which I was unaware so I kept stripping the secure protocol from the links, and that server did not like that. I apologize for the confusion.


Oct 03, 2017 at 10:06 AM
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p.26 #4 · p.26 #4 · Canon Summer


Snopchenko wrote:
Due to its fast and erratic flight pattern, shooting was very complicated for a relative newcomer like myself. I was using the 1D Mark 4 camera (what else) with the Tamron 70-300/4-5.6 VC lens throughout, the vast majority of the shots were done at f/5.6 and 300mm. Most are crops of varying severity from the lightly processed 16MP OOC JPEG files.
http://pp.userapi.com/c837137/v837137170/4e992/WT5-B8WKjYk.jpg
I'm not convinced of the results myself, to be honest. I felt like I was way out of my league on this one, but afterwards, when I started massacring shots by the dozen and my mother voiced her objections, I
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I think you did very well considering that you are not a regular macro shooter and are using a slow lens that isn't really designed for macro work.

My impression is that these creatures are not the most difficult to capture with the camera because they hover for short times, instead of just flying around erratically like most butterflies and dragonflies. But I haven't ever tried (have seen them only twice over the last 5 years or so, in both cases with no camera available). It's probably easier to use a tele prime or macro lens with manual focus, and try to take the picture when focus is right, instead of waiting on the AF of the lens.

BTW, I have no problem seeing the pictures (both embedded and external links).



Oct 03, 2017 at 10:10 AM
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p.26 #5 · p.26 #5 · Canon Summer


technic wrote:
I think you did very well considering that you are not a regular macro shooter and are using a slow lens that isn't really designed for macro work.

My impression is that these creatures are not the most difficult to capture with the camera because they hover for short times, instead of just flying around erratically like most butterflies and dragonflies. But I haven't ever tried (have seen them only twice over the last 5 years or so, in both cases with no camera available). It's probably easier to use a tele prime or macro lens with manual focus, and
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Thank you! Well... for what it's worth I really had problems with focusing and I don't think I would've had nearly enough success with MF since the creatures were moving along every axis. Besides, the DOF was already criminally shallow in many cases (it's shot at f/5.6 and 300mm after all), and I have problems trying to find the point of best focus when using MF - just takes me forever for some reason.

Oddly enough, just yesterday I procured a Canon 100-400/4.5-5.6 L IS lens (version one) to use for awhile, but... I'm not in VDK by now. Go figure.

P. S. I already fixed all the pictures (turns out the simplest solution was the best) but now I messed up the order. Not that it matters a lot though; I just wanted the first one, which is mostly in orange-ish color, to stay on top.



Oct 03, 2017 at 10:22 AM
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Snopchenko wrote:
Thank you! Well... for what it's worth I really had problems with focusing and I don't think I would've had nearly enough success with MF since the creatures were moving along every axis. Besides, the DOF was already criminally shallow in many cases (it's shot at f/5.6 and 300mm after all), and I have problems trying to find the point of best focus when using MF - just takes me forever for some reason.


Regarding the focus, my experience is that AF often is too slow to keep up with such subjects. For sure most lenses are too slow focusing at close distance, maybe a fast focusing lens with a 1DX type camera would work but I have never tried that. AF can work when a butterfly or dragonfly is hovering or gliding, but not when they are flying at full speed, hunting etc. because the speed is too high and the flight path too erratic. It is almost impossible to keep the subject in focus with AF, better prefocus and wait for the best moment (or if you have a fast camera, fire a series of shots when focus is about right and hopefully one will be spot-on). With some of my subjects like the bigger flying dragonflies, even keeping the subject in the frame for more than a second is already very tough ;-)

Yes, DOF is close to nothing in these situations and I know what you mean regarding finding the point of best focus, it all happens too fast so you have to work on 'intuition' and accept that you will have very few real keepers. With moving bugs you have no time to adjust the focus back and forth to find the best setting. However, one of the big problems of using AF when shooting bugs is that you do not know what the AF is going to focus on (if you cannot put the focus point in the right place, because the subject is constantly moving). If you let the AF decide it will probably focus on a high-contrast leg or a wing, instead of on the eye/head that you would normally prefer to put the focus on. And sometimes the AF simply keeps trying to focus without allowing the camera to take the shot ... that's why I almost always use MF nowadays for such shots.



Oct 03, 2017 at 10:51 AM
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p.26 #7 · p.26 #7 · Canon Summer


A few from today














Oct 06, 2017 at 01:08 AM
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p.26 #8 · p.26 #8 · Canon Summer


That's a great job with the moth Ilya - a good number of in-focus shots for a small moving target. I've never done so well with something like that.


Oct 06, 2017 at 03:07 AM
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p.26 #9 · p.26 #9 · Canon Summer


15Bit wrote:
That's a great job with the moth Ilya - a good number of in-focus shots for a small moving target. I've never done so well with something like that.

Thanks! (sorry I've only just noticed your post).
I'll be revisiting the Summer thread again because I've found some unpublished pictures from Thailand.
https://pp.userapi.com/c841335/v841335811/2a751/TIrtJ2FGEnE.jpg
Visiting Mon Cham outside Chiang Mai.
https://pp.userapi.com/c841335/v841335811/2a75b/2LbDOyg6-I8.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c841335/v841335811/2a765/GWUSjrcSTiI.jpg
Hillside terrace plantations.
https://pp.userapi.com/c840233/v840233811/3573d/5bBbTIhsOAs.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c840233/v840233811/35747/sBX3KhnelHs.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c841335/v841335811/2a76f/-5vOvh_aBZ8.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c841335/v841335811/2a7a1/r-vcJgLcSnU.jpg
(sorry for the vertical pics)
https://pp.userapi.com/c841335/v841335811/2a7b5/X50RR4OgalM.jpg



Oct 21, 2017 at 09:09 AM
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