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When I get the 2015 I'll just drop the 2TB I have in to it


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When I get the 2015 I'll just drop the 2TB I have in to it


If you have a 2010 I think it's a SATA drive and the newer faster ones are PCIe. You can check right now by looking in the system report of your computer. You'll be able to use as a thunderbolt drive though. If OWC makes one of the case extensions for 2013-2015 models then you be able to put it in that too.



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I use these for external 2.5 inch SATA SSD drives when I'm mobile fits right in my laptop bag and the drives are tiny. Actually I think I have the thundebolt 2 one that's the original one.

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-Thunderbolt-Adapter/dp/B009HQCARY?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B009HQCARY



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We're in the middle of a switch from SATA (design for disks) drives to PCI (NVMe) drives design for flash so that's the confusion. Apple went first as usual and was way ahead on performance but everyone is switching slowly as well. Here's a whole bunch of them in the M.2 form factor which is different from Apple's so they'll be showing up on Windows and Linux too.

You'll notice the Samsung way over to the right leading the pack in performance and cost: Seq Read 3,500 MB/s, Seq Write 2,100 MB/s, Random Read 440,000 IOPS, Random Write 360,000 IOPS, Endurance 1,200 TBW and capacity 2TB. That's what Apple ships in their machines but just with a different form factor than M.2.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891.html



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rbf_ wrote:
If you have a 2010 I think it's a SATA drive and the newer faster ones are PCIe. You can check right now by looking in the system report of your computer. You'll be able to use as a thunderbolt drive though. If OWC makes one of the case extensions for 2013-2015 models then you be able to put it in that too.


Guess I can't use it in the 2015 what PCIe would you get with maximum capacity?
Thanks for saving me $$$



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Guess I can't use it in the 2015 what PCIe would you get with maximum capacity?
Thanks for saving me $$$


I think the max capacity they made in 2015 model was 1TB I saw some on ebay going for around $2k for lightly used the other day. We're going to be seeing Moore's Law causing a lot of doubling in drive size over the next 5+ years or so. I think 16TB enterprise SSD's are already here but they are insanely expensive right now. Once a few big companies order a few truckloads of them it'll come right down though.


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rbf_ wrote:
I think the max capacity they made in 2015 model was 1TB I saw some on ebay going for around $2k for lightly used the other day.

Ouch
To be clear I can't use a SATA in the 2015 models?
I really need an internal 2TB+, 2K for only a 1TB is nuts
Thanks





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Ouch
To be clear I can't use a SATA in the 2015 models?
I really need an internal 2TB+, 2K for only a 1TB is nuts
Thanks



Then I'd look at 2016's or buy a 2015 with 256GB and swap it to a 2TB Apple SSD. I haven't done that though so I don't know how hard it is. OWC sells Apple compatible more affordable PCIe upgrade kits I'm not sure if they have a 2TB model yet they make them on their own.

It really sounds like you're better off get a 2016/2017 model with 2TB and then waiting for the case expansion to come out to me. A little USB to SD card reader can't be that much of a pain... You'll be getting the new graphics cards too. 5 or 6 years and you are due for a refresh on a laptop.


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OK, thanks for the help


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If you use a mac book pro the best way to expand storage is to use an external enclosure (you can buy on amazon) and then use a standard 2.5" SSD drive, I use SanDisk Extreme Pro 1TB drive. You will get about 500MB/sec read and write which is sufficient. It is slower than PCI-e NVMe but it will make no difference in editing 4K footage from a camera like my 5D MKIV/1DX II or dealing with large RAW/TIFF files. The MacBook pro is limited by the low voltage CPU that constantly throttles downs as the laptop heats up and the really poor ATI mobile GPU (for editing 4K) so making the storage faster will not make any impact in how fast you can get your projects done. the ROI for your business is almost zero.


I have the 15.4" 2016 MBP with touch bar (I actually sent $2800 for this machine) but I regret it, I would stick to my older 2015 MPB if I were to do it again, I agree with online reviews pointing out to poor battery life, and it not being faster than the older model. It was a waste of $$$ IMO. At least try the 2015 before you shell out for the latest model.





Good luck

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Are you guys using the smcFanControl app? I like to run my fans at 4k rpm at default and usually manually peg them at 6k rpm when doing strenuous tasks. It definately works to drop the temps considerably (15-20 degrees easy) but I'm not sure if it will be enough if the 2016's are getting that hot. What temps are you getting? I also park my laptop on a laptop stand on my desk to get airflow underneath and prevent heat soaking the desk. Right now I'm at 102.9 degrees mostly idle.


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I use a cool tray and run the rpm software
Ill idle at 110 and can keep it around 155 running C1 or PS
If i dont watch it it will be around 205



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Yeah my prior macbook used to get up well over 200 if I wasn't careful particularly if used flat on a desk.



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It depends on the load, when I edit or jut transcode a 1DX MKII uncompressed 4K video the temp reaches about 80C and the fan is already running at max rpm making unpleasant grinding sound. Same when I try to stick a 500 Mega pixel or higher panorama out of 16Bit TIFF files. For normal PS/DPP it runs about 58-60C. My Mac Pro is still much much better than the MBP for any kind of heavy processing work despite the older CPU.

Overall the new laptops really struggle with heat because they made them too thin.



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How true just thinning out the mbp caused so many problems


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Looks like I'm waiting until late 2017 or early 2018 earliest for an upgrade to my 15. I want to see how the Mac Pro and iMac Pro compare too. A 13 with an Iris Pro or whatever they are calling it now might be interesting as a really portable machine I'll have to look into it a bit. I have the Iris Pro in my 15 and runs cooler and is more power efficient than discrete gpu's. Surprisingly it can drive 5k too, this design really surprised me. I was really surprised Intel didn't make an equivalent portable Core i7 sku and they didn't have a new 15 model that even has the crystalwell eDram that it was based on. I hear the current radeon gpu's suck a lot of power too. Very strange set of circumstances here... It's not Apple's fault that Intel doesn't have new quad core i7's with Crystall and Iris Pro...

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So it looks like I should get something like this 2015 MBP then?








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PrecisionPhoto wrote:
So it looks like I should get something like this 2015 MBP then?


That's a great deal. If it's legit I would jump on it. Just check to see whether it has the gpu. The Radeon R9 was better than the Iris Pro which I don't think got a revision since it came out.


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rbf_ wrote:
That's a great deal. If it's legit I would jump on it!

Guys sells a lot of MBP with great feedback



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Guys sells a lot of MBP with great feedback


Iris Pro 5200 was a great integrated gpu and I use it now but it is old. But it came out in 2013 and was never rev'd so I think you'd want Radeon R9 given your use case. It was drawing even with the older gpu's but I think R9 made it look a bit dated if I remember the reviews. There are deals out there, R9 version has two gpu's R9 + Iris Pro. Better safe than sorry I'd say.


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