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p.6 #1 · p.6 #1 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


Personally I'd like a 6lb 200-400 f4 FL E w/built in TC. Not sure I could afford it, but I'd sure like one!


Oct 02, 2017 at 07:07 PM
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p.6 #2 · p.6 #2 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


Wouldn’t I would owe you $1.20?

I did own the 50L 1.2 and loved the build and results from that piece. I think it is a lot less controversial than the 58g. But it’s odd that neither of them make a super clean and perfect pro 50. Both of their 50 1.4 lenses are subpar.

85 1.2ii - had that too. Beast lens. AF by wire though, so slow.

Blakehfreeman wrote:
You each owe me $1 when they announce a 1.2! I always hear difficult/expensive but never impossible. I actually think a huge issue with 1.2 was the mechanical link for aperture..and my guess would be that this should be easier now that the aperture link is electronic. But you negative Nancy's can keep raining on my parade!





Oct 03, 2017 at 01:35 AM
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p.6 #3 · p.6 #3 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


I've already put in my guesses earlier on but gonna add a boring one.
AF-P 24-120/f4. I guess the E designation is not necessary since it's AF-P. And throw in an FL element in there too, why not.

Reason being I think Nikon needs a solid all round performer (including in live view and silent AF video) for their new generation of DSLRs and future mirrorless.
I think they missed an opportunity to release one with the D850. The promise of good live view/silent AF video performance could have encouraged a few D850 buyers to spring for the kit instead of body only. As it is with the current 24-120/f4, I think few D850 target buyers will be motivated to buy the kit.



Oct 03, 2017 at 02:39 AM
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p.6 #4 · p.6 #4 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


It's a bit weird that one of the three big dragons is a G while the other two are Es. They have to fix that, surely.


Oct 03, 2017 at 12:03 PM
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p.6 #5 · p.6 #5 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


This is what I am hoping for as well, an updated 14-24.


Oct 03, 2017 at 01:33 PM
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ATX353 wrote:
This is what I am hoping for as well, an updated 14-24.


It'll be interesting to see what they do with that. Will it be an updated 14-24 f2.8? Will they expand it to be 14-30mm f2.8 or 12-24mm f2.8? Will they opt to go with two lenses, like a 16-35 f2.8 and 11-24 f4? It doesn't really have any heritage behind it, and Nikon could change things up dramatically if they so choose.



Oct 03, 2017 at 04:50 PM
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p.6 #7 · p.6 #7 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


$1 says the release a 16-35mm 2.8E and 14-24mm 2.8E the same day. Drop the mic and walk off the stage. They had a clear lead on the wide end that has evaporated over the past ten years.


Oct 03, 2017 at 04:58 PM
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Blakehfreeman wrote:
$1 says the release a 16-35mm 2.8E and 14-24mm 2.8E the same day. Drop the mic and walk off the stage. They had a clear lead on the wide end that has evaporated over the past ten years.


There is still no direct competition from anyone for the 14-24/2.8, so they might drag their feet updating that one. Any zoom lens that is wider is a full stop slower, and any zoom lens that is also F2.8 is not as wide. It's also still pretty great optically but improvements are always welcome (adding VR would be great too). A 16-35/2.8E FL VR would be really nice though, I would be very interested in that and I hope you're right.



Oct 03, 2017 at 05:04 PM
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joefoo wrote:
It's a bit weird that one of the three big dragons is a G while the other two are Es. They have to fix that, surely.


The 300/2.8 and 200-400/4 are very likely going to be updated to FL & E status next. At least the 300/2.8 was on Nikon's list a few years back where they gave a roadmap of updates.



Oct 03, 2017 at 05:09 PM
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p.6 #10 · p.6 #10 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


28e
105e
need something in the middle
50e is next, here's hoping!



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Blakehfreeman wrote:
$1 says the release a 16-35mm 2.8E and 14-24mm 2.8E the same day. Drop the mic and walk off the stage. They had a clear lead on the wide end that has evaporated over the past ten years.


Here's the question, when will they come out?!



Oct 03, 2017 at 08:54 PM
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p.6 #12 · p.6 #12 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


ATX353 wrote:
Here's the question, when will they come out?!


I'm sure @canadamark knows more about the trends
I don't know anything. But it would be cool for them to release another couple of lenses in time for us all to by each other holiday gifts, right?

is it possible that we could track patents on prime E FL glass or no?



Oct 03, 2017 at 10:23 PM
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p.6 #13 · p.6 #13 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


Yes and no... my understanding is they sometimes patent a lens years prior and often those patents don't turn into anything. So could we track, yes, would it tell us much, not likely!

Dj R wrote:
I'm sure @canadamark@ knows more about the trends
I don't know anything. But it would be cool for them to release another couple of lenses in time for us all to by each other holiday gifts, right?

is it possible that we could track patents on prime E FL glass or no?




Oct 03, 2017 at 10:26 PM
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p.6 #14 · p.6 #14 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


GAS attack ^


Oct 03, 2017 at 11:21 PM
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p.6 #15 · p.6 #15 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


welp I'm cheating on nikon again.
sold my 58G locally b/c it's just not what I want out of my 50mm range prime, a $1,400.00 lens.
it was ok on my d750 but not the d850.
I took the $1,150 and bought a sigma 50 art. I will use the leftover money to purchase a 50 1.8G for family/travel. two for the price of one, essentially.

when they make a 50 1.4E I'll be there.

I believe I am set until then.
Nikon D850/D750
12-24 Art
24-70 2.8E
70-200 2.8E
20 1.8G
28 1.4E
50 1.4 Art
105 1.4E



Oct 24, 2017 at 08:56 PM
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p.6 #16 · p.6 #16 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


You still need to add a Chub! 😬👍🏻.. I am cheating also, love my 50mm Art. Enjoying it so far?..

Dj R wrote:
welp I'm cheating on nikon again.
sold my 58G locally b/c it's just not what I want out of my 50mm range prime, a $1,400.00 lens.
it was ok on my d750 but not the d850.
I took the $1,150 and bought a sigma 50 art. I will use the leftover money to purchase a 50 1.8G for family/travel. two for the price of one, essentially.

when they make a 50 1.4E I'll be there.

I believe I am set until then.
Nikon D850/D750
12-24 Art
24-70 2.8E
70-200 2.8E
20 1.8G
28 1.4E
50 1.4 Art
105 1.4E




Oct 24, 2017 at 09:20 PM
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p.6 #17 · p.6 #17 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


@ Dj R: I don't like reading about the D850 and the 58mm f/1.4G not matching well. Someone else, somewhere else stated that the resolution power of the new sensor still would not cause any issues with the 58mm lens. May I thus ask what specifically did you find out and obviously not like?


Oct 25, 2017 at 07:43 AM
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kwe67 wrote:
@ Dj R: I don't like reading about the D850 and the 58mm f/1.4G not matching well. Someone else, somewhere else stated that the resolution power of the new sensor still would not cause any issues with the 58mm lens. May I thus ask what specifically did you find out and obviously not like?


I don't want to hate on the 58.
it will work with the d850
but I want the sharpness to match my 105e and 28e, and 70-200e.
the 58 wasn't designed to be sharp





Oct 25, 2017 at 11:53 AM
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p.6 #19 · p.6 #19 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


Dj R wrote:
I don't want to hate on the 58.
it will work with the d850
but I want the sharpness to match my 105e and 28e, and 70-200e.
the 58 wasn't designed to be sharp




Just a differing opinion.... I have shot with the 200mm F2, 105mm F1.4, multiple 85's & multiple 50's and if I had to keep one lens it would definitely be the 58mm F1.4. I wouldn't even blink on my decision.

Use F1.4 for that sublime rendering and bokeh and if you want great sharpness stop down to F2 and you will still get better bokeh imo than all the other 50mm competitors.



Oct 25, 2017 at 12:05 PM
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p.6 #20 · p.6 #20 · Nikon E FL Lens Series - what do you want & expect next? (1.4 glass, etc)


I have the 24-70VR, 70-200FL E. Huge fan of these 2 lenses.

The bokeh on the 105mm 1.4 looks strange in some instances. Not a fan.

Not hot about the 85mm range even though bokeh is better than the 105mm 1.4. Does this need to be upgraded? Possibly.

Anyone not a fan of the 35mm 1.4? I used to have it and found it rendered nice photos. Just wasn't sure about the focal length. That might need an update to get even sharper as everyone harps on about the Sigma Art 35mm.

I'm very tempted to get the 58 1.4 as my walk around lens. Bokeh and how it renders the picture look superb.

I'd like to see an update to the 135mm DC F2.0. Both this and the original 105 DC have better bokeh than the curnet 105mm 1.4.



Oct 25, 2017 at 01:27 PM
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