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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


is this thread gonna happen or what?!!?


Jul 03, 2017 at 07:42 PM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


low325 wrote:
is this thread gonna happen or what?!!?


Cool it bro.

I'm on it!



Jul 03, 2017 at 08:25 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


queue the crickets?


Jul 05, 2017 at 08:15 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


Dj R wrote:
queue the crickets?


I hate when you pre-order from a store and then other stores have stock.



Jul 05, 2017 at 08:34 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


Hardcore wrote:
I hate when you pre-order from a store and then other stores have stock.


I hear that!
is there a dislike button! haha!



Jul 05, 2017 at 08:44 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


This lens is unbelievably sharp!! I had never owned a wide angle this sharp...
Sigma can go take a hike now with it's ART lenses! (this should stir some pot)




  NIKON D750    28.0 mm f/1.4 lens    28mm    f/1.4    1/250s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D750    28.0 mm f/1.4 lens    28mm    f/1.4    1/250s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D750    28.0 mm f/1.4 lens    28mm    f/1.4    1/250s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jul 09, 2017 at 06:55 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


Very nice Elijah. I'm traveling for two weeks, and wouldn't you know it, mine arrived the day after I left town.


Jul 09, 2017 at 07:10 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


Love the first one, Elijah! Great use of the 28mm for this environmental portrait, very cinematic look. And the rendering is to die for. How are you feeling so far between the 35mm and new 28mm? Both rendering an FL for people photography?



Jul 09, 2017 at 07:33 PM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


I think I'm really going to like this lens! Great shot Elijah!


Jul 09, 2017 at 09:49 PM
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mcpallesen wrote:
Love the first one, Elijah! Great use of the 28mm for this environmental portrait, very cinematic look. And the rendering is to die for. How are you feeling so far between the 35mm and new 28mm? Both rendering an FL for people photography?


Right now the biggest decision that I'm up against is 28mm vs 35mm focal lengths alone.
Indeed, the 28E is sharper than 35G but not enough for me to hate the 35G; it's well sharp enough.
In fact, sometimes I don't want the lens to be TOO sharp, 'coz it brings out more flaws in skin on my clients... that means more PP for me!

I have a wedding coming up that I will be shooting with @DJ R at the end of this month...
I will use this lens exclusively and see how well the 28mm performs in terms of perspective distortion for group shots & people.
I have said earlier that I may even end up keeping both, 28E and 35G.



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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


Your portrait shot above is all the answer I need.

28e with its sharpness and cream is a 35 1.4 if you step forward one step or crop. And I think bokeh is better then 35 from the two samples of your tripod. The wide perspective adds an interesting 3d effect. But not so wide like a 24 or wider that it feels wonky or stretched out. Its a more interesting 35 or a a classy 24 with better manners.

I will be keeping 24 and 35 just in case through the end of the season. But I think 20, 28, 58, 105 is the new holy quad.



Jul 10, 2017 at 12:53 AM
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My gut feel is that if you are a 50mm FL shooter the 28mm appeals more. I have always preferred the 50mm FOV and for street/environmental portraits I loved the 28mm FOV but there has been a lack of great 28 lenses from any of the major players. I do think if you are a 35mm FOV shooter the 28mm may not appeal as much as a 24mm.


Jul 10, 2017 at 02:10 AM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


I have a 35 mm F/1.4 so it really doesn't make too much sense to go to a 28 even though it is a nice lens. I am much more of a medium telephoto photographer meaning, I prefer the 85 105 and 135 for most of my work. I very seldom use a 50 or the 35 or even a 20. I've been enjoying the sample images though.


Jul 10, 2017 at 02:17 AM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


For me, 28mm is a very useful focal length. On a full frame camera, it's pretty wide and useful for certain architecture and interiors. On a crop, it's a great normal range lens. That's a nice balance.


Jul 10, 2017 at 02:46 AM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


Really love the rendering of this lens. Great images!

Can't wait until the 20mm and 50mm get updated.

I agree: a 20 f/1.4E, a 28 f/1.4E, a 50 f/1.4E, and the 105 f/1.4E would be "a holy quad."

This is exactly the sequence I carry via AI-S lenses.



Jul 10, 2017 at 04:03 AM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


28mm all the way.


Jul 10, 2017 at 05:45 AM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


Agreed, FL should be the deciding factor. Both are great lenses.

I own the 35mm 1.4G and it is hands down my favorite lens. I rolled with 35mm + 58mm combo for a while, but have now gone back to 35mm + 85mm 1.4G as this FL spread makes more sense for me. 35 and 58 seemed too close. Actually, having owned both I slightly prefer the rendering of the 35mm 1.4G over the 58mm 1.4G - for some reason I find it more "balanced" in it's character with still the nice organic draw that I love.

The 28mm 1.4E looks amazing. However, I think I will stick with 35/85 for now (got a 180mm 2.8D too for the compressed shots). My "going light"/reportage camera is a Leica Q, which has a wonderful 28mm f/1.7, so I still got a 28mm to play with. :-)

28mm is definitely more challenging to shoot for people photography, but when it works, it's amazing and lends a certain intimacy and sense of "being there", that you don't get to the same extent from 35mm.



Jul 10, 2017 at 07:12 AM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


I posted a few thoughts on the idea of purchasing this lens in Corey's discussion thread a few weeks ago. I am borrowing some of that info and adding a few new ideas here in Elijah's, as there have been a few good points made by forum regulars.

Title: I feel that 28mm is probably the most versatile WA for a portrait/wedding shooter

20mm is too wide to shoot portraits of humans regularly, obviously.
24mm is interestingly wide but it'll never be wide enough to be a professional's only WA. it is not the best FL for humans, more distortion than most people want to see.
35mm is where a lens on FF becomes absolutely perfect for humans. it's not always wide enough for "getting ready" or "ceremony" time, and groups.

28mm is better for humans than 24mm. so it becomes a compromise between 24/35. good for groups. it's more of a swiss army knife.

@Elijah and I shoot weddings together occassionally. And you may have noticed that we flip flop gear a lot. Lately, our theme has been "less is more". Meaning, we want to select few excellent tools and just focus on the people we are working with and our job, rather than wondering what tool to grab next. Or feeling pressure to use all of these $1,500 to $2,795 tools on a regular basis - to warrant their term in our bags.

Ironically, my setup from a year ago was 20 28 58 105... plus my two wedding zooms (24-70 70-200 f2.8) which are for backup and assistants to rock. Now today, I'm back to considering 28. Albeit an upgrade from G to E.
Granted, most of us don't/won't use the 20 much. but it's cheap and light, and takes up little to no room. It was a great kit. But I find that I prefer a 2 prime setup (aside from the 20). I dual wield, and I just don't want to change lenses.

On a personal note:
I have since sold my 105. I just flat out prefer 85mm. When Nikon makes an 85mm E, which will be upgraded to better compliment our larger sensors of today, I'll probably get it. I am loving 35/85 right now. Current prime collection is 20 35 50 58 85 (all nikon, 1.4 where available). The 50mm 1.8G is a lens that everyone should own. Either, as a backup. Or as a lens that you throw on when you're out with your family. On FF, it's just a dream FL for ME. And the lens is fast, sharp, and makes nice bokeh. I have not used my 58mm for two months, since going back to the 85. It's been by design to see if I'd miss it, before selling it. And honestly, I don't miss it at all. When I officially decide if I'm getting the 28, I'll decide my next move. I will sell a prime or two.

What I'm trying to say is that for a wedding or portrait shooter, who dual wields... having a 35/85 or 28/58 or 24/50 or 35/105 (whatever your thing is) on you at all times, you will never have to look for your bag or desire another lens all that often. 99% of the day can be shot with these two "fighter lenses", whatever the FL are for YOU. When I look at these FL options (for pairings), if I were to design the best pairing for ME, I think my summary that the 28mm is the most versatile WA for a portrait/wedding shooter - this hits home! The key being that it's wide enough for 99% of the "getting ready shots" and the groups!!! There are many times that I have to back up far too much with a 35mm, when shooting groups. the 28 will be better here. Will 28/85 leave too much gap? Maybe, maybe not, we are shooting with 24-36mp, we can crop. You can get very close to your subject with the 28mm. It's sharper than the gang. And it's designed for our larger sensors. I am leaning towards ordering one, as I type this out!

Obviously if I get the 28mm, I will sell my 35. They are too close, too expensive, and too heavy to own both. Less is more, remember.

In the end, I may end up with 20, 28e, (and either) 58/85.
So, two "fighter primes", and the 20 for special needs. And the nifty fifty for backup, casual days. And then my zooms. 70-200 24-70 12-24.

Remember this, from the other thread:
if you don't already own a 28 1.8g or have never owned it.... do not rush out and get the 28e.
more importantly..... don't get a 28e and fund it by selling your 24 and or 35. if you get a 28e, keep the others in case you don't fall in love with 28.
28 is tough. MANY people can not find a way to use it. and not find a way to fall in love with it.
2k is a lot of coin to have invested in a FL that you don't love.
so if you can't afford to get it, while keeping your wide angle prime(s), wait and rent it first.
cheers

p.s. Interesting here, my new lens arrangement could all be 77mm!
did you realize the 70-200 2.8G & E are both 77? same for: 85 f1.4, 28 f1.4, 20 f1.8!
so dual wield 28/85
then the 20 and 70-200 in a small bag. done.






Jul 10, 2017 at 07:37 PM
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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Nikon 28mm f/1.4E ED Image Thread


I think the gap between 28 and 85 is too wide especially for getting ready. There are times when I would want a tight shot of the bride but not as tight as a 85. This is where the 58 comes in. I'm going 28, 58 for getting ready, 28, 105 for ceremony with a little 58 thrown in. 28, 58 for group shots, 58, 105 for for portraits with a little 28 thrown in. Mostly 28, 105 for reception and 28 for dancing.

I totally get the difficulty of carrying 3 lens for quick changes while using 2 cameras. I'm still working that out. I carried the 3rd lens in a pouch on my waist but I do not like it. The last wedding I had the 3rd lens in my main bag with the top open for easy access and preferred that to having the waist pouch.

If Anyone has a easy way to deal with the third lens let me know. I'm going to try the trilens when it becomes available http://www.friidesigns.com.



Jul 10, 2017 at 08:29 PM
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Mykal wrote:
I think the gap between 28 and 85 is too wide especially for getting ready. There are times when I would want a tight shot of the bride but not as tight as a 85. This is where the 58 comes in. I'm going 28, 58 for getting ready, 28, 105 for ceremony with a little 58 thrown in. 28, 58 for group shots, 58, 105 for for portraits with a little 28 thrown in. Mostly 28, 105 for reception and 28 for dancing.

I totally get the difficulty of carrying 3 lens for quick changes while using 2 cameras. I'm
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yea I may need to reconsider and go 28 58, with the 70-200e on reserve.
what pouch are you using?
I may get the HF large pouch, but it seems difficult to do a behind the back swap with a lens - in a pouch!



Jul 10, 2017 at 09:07 PM
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