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I have never had a lens with 82mm thread. Will my standard Lee holder system work without vignetting at 16mm?


May 19, 2017 at 11:44 PM
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MRomine wrote:
82mm filter thread, that is crazy. All of my old RZ lenses were only 77mm and those were huge. I can't imagine such a large lens on such a small mirrorless body. I would think the balance would be pretty unbalanced.

Sony gear, especially their lenses are too expensive.


Almost every 16-35 and or 24-70 2.8 is 82mm. My Sigma 24-35, 135 all 82mm. Sonys GM 24-70 is also. Nikon , Canon don't know don't care. Costs are relative to need. You don't need it don't buy it. Nothing is unbalanced if you hold it correctly. It's a big lens with big IQ and speed, your going to pay for that. Btw the Sony 2.8 is only 160grams heavier than the F4 version.



May 19, 2017 at 11:48 PM
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Gary Clennan wrote:
I have never had a lens with 82mm thread. Will my standard Lee holder system work without vignetting at 16mm?


Gary your 100mm square should work I would think. More the issue if anything is the filter holder sticking out to far. I can get 2 empty filter rings on the GM 24-70 and the same on my Sigma 24-35 both 82mm



May 19, 2017 at 11:51 PM
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Canon 16-35/2.8 is 82mm for V2 and V3. Zeiss 18/21mm also 82mm. Zeiss 16-35/2.8 however is 77mm.

Had a look at dpreview sample gallery, the lenses seem to be sharp where the focus point is. Or at least some parts of the photos were always sharp. Few blurred somewhat badly by motion blur. 16-35/2.8 seemed to be a bit smeared on the right side edge but could not say for sure from those pics.

Especially one image had high clarity - the guy sitting in the bus watching his cellphone. It was from 12-24/4 lens. Canon 16-35/2.8 V3 however may be able to deliver more (at least on native body) than this 16-35/2.8 GM excluding vignette problem if that is a problem for someone.



May 19, 2017 at 11:54 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Almost every 16-35 and or 24-70 2.8 is 82mm. My Sigma 24-35, 135 all 82mm. Sonys GM 24-70 is also. Nikon , Canon don't know don't care. Costs are relative to need. You don't need it don't buy it. Nothing is unbalanced if you hold it correctly. It's a big lens with big IQ and speed, your going to pay for that. Btw the Sony 2.8 is only 160grams heavier than the F4 version.

+100000000 I will never get the obsession with this "unbalanced" comments. These are not point and shoot cameras...hold them correctly, as GMPhotography mentioned, and its all good. The only lens I have tried that I will call unbalanced is the old Canon FD 300mm 2.8 Fluorite (the black version). All the weight was on the front element so instead of holding the lens by the body like any other big lens I have owned, on that one you basically had to grab it by the front element area..it was weird




May 20, 2017 at 12:55 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I am still debating this move. The CV 12 is half the weight and about 1.5" shorter. It also renders beautiful sunstars starting at f/7.1.
It's a stop slower though and I am wondering if the 4 asphericals and exotic glass in the new FE 12-24 will translate to much higher resolution and aberration control in comparison.



Still considering. But the new 12-24 may satisfy more, just half a kilogram and you have cover for a 12mm, 15mm, 20mm and 24mm prime lens. For the weight, space and price of that all those prime lenses require, the 12-24 seems to be a better choice. What I am wondering is the characteric of the new lens (sunstar, sharpness, distortion), maybe I will need to wait for more review to come



May 20, 2017 at 01:16 AM
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Gary Clennan wrote:
I have never had a lens with 82mm thread. Will my standard Lee holder system work without vignetting at 16mm?


If it's the one with 100x100mm, then yes. I have an 82mm adapter for it myself. Note that there is a standard and a wide angle (WA) version of the 82mm adapter, so make sure you get the right one.



May 20, 2017 at 01:48 AM
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SoundHound wrote:
Probably best to wait for the reviews and tests. Canon's third try at 16-35 F2.8 has so much vignetting at 16mm F2.8 that it's better to buy their 16-35 F4.0. Cheaper and with VR too.


I sold my Canon 16-35 2.8 because of poor performance, then got the f4 - huge improvement in image quality. Kind of why the new Sony 16-35 2.8 doesn't excite me as much as the 12-24. Although the 16-35 2.8 is a very important lens for Sony and if it's as good as the Canon 16-35 f4, it'll be a killer. If I ever move totally away from Canon, then I'll probably pick one up.



May 20, 2017 at 02:12 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Update now B&H is saying July 31st for both lenses. This mornings no it was August 31 for the 16-35.

So I should be hearing a big Yahoo here. Lol

Still a little late for me I'm driving back to Az from Ny I think on the 18th. Dang


B&H still says 8/31, perhaps it was a typo...



May 20, 2017 at 02:14 AM
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Amazon now say July

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SEL1635GM-16-35mm-2-8-22-Camera/dp/B071LHLS11/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1495211023&sr=1-4&keywords=Sony+16-35mm+GM&refinements=p_n_availability:1248801011&linkCode=sl1&tag=sonyalpharumo-20&linkId=df798f22f39e8aba670f5f8930b43630



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Adorama saying August 31. Checking Best Buy 8/31

Weird



May 20, 2017 at 02:22 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Almost every 16-35 and or 24-70 2.8 is 82mm. My Sigma 24-35, 135 all 82mm. Sonys GM 24-70 is also. Nikon , Canon don't know don't care.


Even if every single one ever made was 82mm, I still think that is crazy huge. Like I said that is larger than the ole RZ lenses and I can't imagine attaching one of those to a Sony. For what I shoot I don't want or need massive lenses. They are a hindrance to me. I prefer something much smaller.

Costs are relative to need. You don't need it don't buy it.

I don''t and I wont.

GMPhotography wrote:
Nothing is unbalanced if you hold it correctly.


That is a huge misnomer.

GMPhotography wrote:
It's a big lens with big IQ and speed, your going to pay for that. Btw the Sony 2.8 is only 160grams heavier than the F4 version.


I don't doubt the quality, my little experience with Sony glass has all been very favorable. But still over priced.



May 20, 2017 at 02:37 AM
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We certainly can disagree on the balance. Sure it's heavier but you can still balance heavy. I shot medium format and that by far is much harder to balance. Of course when you get the big guns out things get spread out with balance so makes it harder. Now need to remember it's much easier for me because I've been at this for decades so I'm Used to weight and bulk. The real problem here is the physics you just can't get fast glass small. Even Leica there 75 sumilux is big but that's RF and different designs.

You might be more happier with F4 zooms and some small primes. GM glass is expensive but it has special elements to control CA, special polishing for Onion rings and designed for the highest IQ.are they expensive , sure they are not cheap no question. Money is a funny thing, some folks really watch the output some will go for the best they can get. Neither is wrong but understanding what your buying is essential.



May 20, 2017 at 02:48 AM
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See here is the new 16-35. If you just understand the specs you know it's going to be big and expensive. Hey I don't like spending 2200 either but if your after the best IQ than you have no choose. The GM lenses are really really good.

Designed to achieve 50 Line pairs/mm resolving power
Two XA (extreme aspherical) elements w/ high surface precision
Constant F2.8 max aperture maintains exposure and Depth of field
Uncompromising G Master design for smooth bokeh and high resolution
11-blade circular aperture contributes to gorgeous bokeh



May 20, 2017 at 02:53 AM
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I agree it's a great range.
However, I am getting the 16-35 GM and only really need the extra 12mm. That makes the little VC 12 prime still a good choice.
But then, the zoom still gives 12-16mm which is very usable. I will try this lens when available.

ThanhHa wrote:
Still considering. But the new 12-24 may satisfy more, just half a kilogram and you have cover for a 12mm, 15mm, 20mm and 24mm prime lens. For the weight, space and price of that all those prime lenses require, the 12-24 seems to be a better choice. What I am wondering is the characteric of the new lens (sunstar, sharpness, distortion), maybe I will need to wait for more review to come




May 20, 2017 at 05:41 AM
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I'm very interested in the 12-24 and it will probably replace my FE16-35 if the IQ is up to scratch. I have never really been into the 16-35 range as I nearly always work with 2 bodies and having the 24-70GM which is just superb at the wide end I just don't need the overlap. Also I don't really need a f2.8 lens in this range as it is mostly used for landscape when I would be stopped down anyway.


May 20, 2017 at 07:35 AM
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Is there anywhere around with decent infinity flat-field samples? The DPreview test pics are utter rubbish for assessing landscape performance.


May 20, 2017 at 08:53 AM
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I pre ordered the 16-35 at Amazon. At least I got it in . Probably change when the time comes. Just maybe this could be hard to get first round. So covered myself.


May 20, 2017 at 01:43 PM
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Here is the proper link to Amazon. It's still says July 31st but everywhere else says August 31


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071LHLS11/ref=as_li_ss_tl?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1495129503&sr=1-4&keywords=Sony+16-35mm+GM&refinements=p_n_availability:1248801011&linkCode=sl1&tag=sonyalpharumo-20&linkId=638d82b83bbe1711edda6db50b7cc83e



May 20, 2017 at 01:45 PM
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Sony Pro Support told me August as well so who knows. I really got interested in the 12-24mm because that way it will be a great addition to my Canon ef 35mm 1.4L ii and I will sell my Tamron 15-30mm 2.8. Then again, 2.8 is really my slowest lens so getting an F4 is not my preference but for what I use these wide zooms, sharpness across the frame matters more than the faster speed (cant believe I just said that lol).


May 20, 2017 at 02:00 PM
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