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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · this is still an experiment...


working still on a new personal vision of wedding photography.

Experimenting with taking it down to the core.



Do you see something in this?


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May 07, 2017 at 02:37 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · this is still an experiment...


Nice stuff. 5 is a bit eh for me. Just seems like a botched exposure save thing rather than a specific effort for a more artistic type shot.
The others are really nice for sure.



May 07, 2017 at 03:01 PM
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We don't matter. Do you see something in this?

I've heard you write about moments being most important to you, but I see style being the most important element of these.

With that said, I do like them and respect you for continually trying to define your vision. I just don't think a wedding photography forum is the best place to get feedback




May 07, 2017 at 07:01 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · this is still an experiment...


canerino wrote:
We don't matter. Do you see something in this?

I've heard you write about moments being most important to you, but I see style being the most important element of these.

With that said, I do like them and respect you for continually trying to define your vision. I just don't think a wedding photography forum is the best place to get feedback





Feedback is important for an artist. This is not a marketing research. So why not get feedback from someone who knows what he is talking about? Other artists work also get curated by experts, not by the masses. I think this is a valuable way to get "professional" feedback.

I sees something in this. (0:
All my personal work I have been doing this way the last few months.


In discussion with others, I found that this style is not the best way to highlight emotions. Some emotions, like laughing, look weird in this reduced style. That is something I did not anticipate and need to think about. Moments is all for us, but we want to show them in an artistic way. So this new insights causes some problems...


Thank you for your feedback, Chuck!


oh, in case you want to see some moments from this wedding...
https://hamburg-hochzeitsfotografen.de/auf-dem-lande/



heiko



May 07, 2017 at 07:36 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · this is still an experiment...


I love these. This is a style that really appeals to me.

However, I do wonder how many would agree with me? Yes I love them but could I sell this style to others. Especially women who might not get on with how *aggressive* these are. And it's the brides doing the buying, mostly.

So from a personal point of view, absolutely. From a business point of view? I'm not so sure....

Gordon



May 07, 2017 at 09:09 PM
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The only way you will find the answer you are looking for is to continue photographing. Along the way, define and redefine your vision. You'll know when you get there.




May 07, 2017 at 10:37 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · this is still an experiment...


Amazing wedding art! i love it! Terrible story telling and memory capture, brides may want more then this.


May 07, 2017 at 11:01 PM
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I personally like the story telling moments on all of them. As for the artistic feel, I would ask myself these questions:
Am I able to deliver images capturing the entire day that will be consistent with this look? Consistency is the key here. Or Am I planning these images just as bonus images to a less artistic majority of images?

How would these images actually print since there are areas without any details in black/whites?





May 07, 2017 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · this is still an experiment...


I really like (most) of these.


May 08, 2017 at 08:30 AM
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heikoM wrote:
Feedback is important for an artist. This is not a marketing research. So why not get feedback from someone who knows what he is talking about? Other artists work also get curated by experts, not by the masses. I think this is a valuable way to get "professional" feedback.

I sees something in this. (0:
All my personal work I have been doing this way the last few months.

In discussion with others, I found that this style is not the best way to highlight emotions. Some emotions, like laughing, look weird in this reduced style. That is something I did not anticipate
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I think the wedding looks great. If you are in it for the business, drive at what you have on the blog. It's a good product.

Question, what is it that you want to get from shooting the images you posted above? What is the goal?



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · this is still an experiment...


I think this would be a hard sell as your overall shooting style, but I can totally see brides loving this as a one-off sort of thing. For example, #2 and #3 would make a great diptych printed and framed as wall art. Definitely gives me some ideas...


May 08, 2017 at 12:02 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · this is still an experiment...


All that really matters in the grand scheme of things is, can you sell these to clients and make a living doing it?


May 08, 2017 at 02:29 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · this is still an experiment...


I have looked and then looked again..... with a couple of days between.

Some of these I get and other just don't resonate with me... either in abstract or not.
Some are creepy(4 & 9).

I love the fact you are pushing. That is probably the biggest take away.
I can see big city or more eclectic clients seeing as a bonus to or add on.

Cool that you shared.

-Mark



May 08, 2017 at 05:29 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · this is still an experiment...


I dig it. The style will narrow your audience dramatically, but I assume that's what you're going for. But I like it a lot


May 08, 2017 at 05:30 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · this is still an experiment...


canerino wrote:
We don't matter. Do you see something in this?

I've heard you write about moments being most important to you, but I see style being the most important element of these.

With that said, I do like them and respect you for continually trying to define your vision. I just don't think a wedding photography forum is the best place to get feedback



Nothing wrong with getting some feedback from fellow shooters. Granted it is not at a workshop and face to face or at a competition....
But it is still fine getting feedback.
Just keep it in perspective.

-Mark






May 08, 2017 at 05:32 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · this is still an experiment...


canerino wrote:
I think the wedding looks great. If you are in it for the business, drive at what you have on the blog. It's a good product.

Question, what is it that you want to get from shooting the images you posted above? What is the goal?



I donīt believe this new approach is any more successful then our standard approach. We sell quite good.


Itīs as I said some months ago. I want to create something. I like images that are transcendent, less detailed, reduced to itīs bare core. I feel this style, where the subject is kind of isolated from the rest makes it less realistic, but still preserves the emotion of the moment. Itīs a bit like a haiku.


After reeding what I just wrote above it sounds like utter crap. Maybe itīs my insufficient language skills, maybe itīs just that, crap. I donīt know. But, my personal photographic style has evolved to something like that, and I like it. Maybe itīs just that: I like it.


heiko



May 08, 2017 at 07:13 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · this is still an experiment...


andrewhenders wrote:
The only way you will find the answer you are looking for is to continue photographing. Along the way, define and redefine your vision. You'll know when you get there.




This "define your style" is easy said. To make such unorthodox and "extreme" images you need commitment. You need to believe that something useful will come out of this. If you just shoot, as you normally do, you will not pushing these boundaries in your head, in your vision, further. But that is, what it takes.

I have been playing around with this for some time. I had moments where I thought what bullshit and abandoned it. But I come back, again and again.


heiko



May 08, 2017 at 07:26 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · this is still an experiment...


I love the images! When you manage to create timeless photos like this at a wedding then youīre one of few who deserve to be called "artist". Whether the brides like it is another matter But having a piece of visual art on my wall from my own wedding...sounds great.


May 08, 2017 at 07:28 PM
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DCPhotoAL wrote:
All that really matters in the grand scheme of things is, can you sell these to clients and make a living doing it?



nope (0:

Itsīs not what really matters. If this would be true, there never would have been any poor artists in the world. No painters, no musicians who do something that nobody wants...


heiko



May 08, 2017 at 07:29 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · this is still an experiment...


Love the inky blacks, simple compositions, and the perspective of things. They really feel very thought out, but the really read in a way that is really direct. For me personally, 4, 5, & 9 area bit too much for me. Too much contrast and not enough context in the image to really succeed for my eye...but that may differ on paper versus on a screen.

Speaking of context, I wonder how these fit into an entire wedding. What kind of images do these live with? Are they details adjacent to shots with more elements? How much of these images are you doing when shot versus in post? I ask that last question because they almost look like they came from an IR-converted camera or something.



May 08, 2017 at 07:33 PM
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