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Abdoozy
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I was using the 10-18f4 crop sensor lens on my A7ii -- between 12-15mm, it was usable with minor correction -- but I sold that lens, and now I find myself needing (or maybe just wanting) something wider than 16mm. Given the dearth of FE options at the ultra wide end, what are some options for adapted lenses that will give good IQ and full frame coverage? AF isn't important.


May 06, 2017 at 11:19 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


The Voigtlanders (15, 12 and 10mm).

Also since you are familiar to using APSC lenses, another recommendation would be a Samyang 12mm f2; it's cheap, f2, focuses down to 20cm and it's usable area is something like 15mm on FF.



May 07, 2017 at 04:22 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


I like my Voigtlander 15. Took me three tries to get a good one, but once I did I love it.


May 07, 2017 at 04:39 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


Maybe our guide to UWA-lenses for the Sony a7 series will give you a good starting point to get a grip on the available options?


May 07, 2017 at 05:01 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


If you can handle the size, the ZE/F Distagon 15/2.8 has become a relative bargain on the used market. Optically, I don't think you can do better.

There's the Canon 11-24mm L, though, given some of the problems people have had adapting the 16-35L's, I imagine your adapter would have to be as good as a native mount to minimize the FC. Same goes for the Nikon 14-24.

It would be interesting to see how Sigma's 12-24 ART does on an MC-11. I've seen a few raving reviews from users shooting it on other bodies, so it might be worth a look.

I think that covers the massive lenses.



May 08, 2017 at 12:02 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


My favorite is the CV 12/5.6.


May 08, 2017 at 12:05 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


My favorite UWA prime is the Voigtlander 12. My favorite zoom is the Nikon 14-24. The 14-24 needs a near perfect adapter for best results, but I found the results are worth the effort.


May 08, 2017 at 12:11 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


I have the 14-24mm adapted on a Novaflex, and i am selling it soon for the CVIII 15mm and Loxia 21mm combo. The 14-24 is fantastic, but i feel it is time for a change


May 08, 2017 at 12:51 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


Can anyone comment from experience on the Laowa 12 and 15mm UWAs or the Irix 11 and 15mm UWAs?

Thanks



May 08, 2017 at 05:35 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


Laowa 12mm is pretty good, but I don't have anything else to compare it against. Seems reasonably good in the corners (for an ultra wide) very little distortion and well built.


May 08, 2017 at 05:39 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


Abdoozy wrote:
Given the dearth of FE options at the ultra wide end....


Funny you see it that way. I'd say that FE has more UW options than almost anyone else in native/native-like mounts-- and some of those are class-leading.

If AF, wide aperture are not important, than definitely the VL 12mm f/5.6-- small, nice little optic.



May 09, 2017 at 01:42 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


Found this test on an 18mm F3.5 Zuiko whilst looking for a tamron 17mm 3.5 comparison:

https://28mmf2.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/the-sony-a7r-and-a-zuiko-18mm-f3-5/

Not a budget lens but Encourages me to try a few of my Zuikos on the a7II.




May 09, 2017 at 04:02 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


14mm SP/XP Rokinon is a good lens to consider


May 09, 2017 at 05:14 AM
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Depends on the application, I'd say:

If you are after compact landscape lenses in native e-mount, a good copy of one of the three Voigtlander lenses (10, 12,15mm) may be your best choice.

If you are looking for lenses that can be used for astro, the new Samyang 14 2.4, the Zeiss 15 2.8 or even the Tamron 15-30 2.8 may be the ticket.

The Laowa 15 2 has been a mystery thus far. It's quite compact and light for such an ambitious design. Forum owner/admin Fred apparently will receive a test copy. Last I heard was that it should be available this month, not sure about the newest status, though.

In case you can afford to wait a little bit longer, you might want to see what Sony has in the works: A 16-35 2.8 GM has been rumored for quite a while. to be announced within the next few months.



May 09, 2017 at 07:38 AM
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Thanks. I'm very very happy with the 16-35f4. My interest is in the 10-15 range. And I rarely shoot UWA wide open. If I need more light I adjust elsewhere or use a tripod. So the idea of a f/2.8 or faster aperture sounds expensive and counterproductive for me, based on how I shoot.

Right now I'm leaning toward the VL12. The VL10 is intriguing though. I wonder how much difference there is between the VL10 cropped to a 12mm FOV and the VL12 uncropped, both at f/8? Because I often will crop in a bit on landscapes and interiors (and compose with this expectation). If the VL10' cropped to 12 has better edge and corner sharpness at f/8 than the uncropped VL12 image, it's a no-brainer.

I'm tempted to rent them both and do my own testing, if I can find someplace that rents both, that is.



May 09, 2017 at 02:35 PM
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My favorites are: CV 10/5.6, CV 15/4.5 III, AF-S 14-24/2.8, WATE 16-18-21/4.

Edited on May 10, 2017 at 09:11 PM · View previous versions



May 10, 2017 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


My three favourites would be the CV 12, Zeiss 15 Distagon and the Leica Tri-elmar 16-18-21.


May 10, 2017 at 09:07 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


I got Samyang 12mm f/2.8 (using less than month) so far happy with size/weight/price/performance
Soon will check on nighty sky and interiors







May 11, 2017 at 03:50 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


I love my CV 15/4.5 III on the A7R2. The CV is tiny. I am adapting an M-mount copy. It has quite a bit of vignetting, even stopped down.


May 11, 2017 at 06:41 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Best ultra wide for full frame?


Voigtlander 15, 12, or 10 will be the best size wise. Super lenses.

Samyang 14/2.8 is nice but very big. Good choice for nightscapes/milky way.

Samyang 12mm f/2.8 fisheye is amazing if you want a fisheye. I love this lens. It is almost too big but smaller than the 14mm.

I think the Canon 11-24 and Nikon 14-24 are way too big unless you only use a tripod 100% of the time and don't mind a huge lens with a small camera.




May 11, 2017 at 07:27 AM
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