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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · trying for the Dietrich


not sure if this constitutes a 'Dietrich' but I think I got the ball in some worthiness of focus.










Apr 28, 2017 at 06:34 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · trying for the Dietrich


The ball is sharp but that's the easiest part. All the other elements that make up a good Detrick are lacking.


Apr 29, 2017 at 05:08 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · trying for the Dietrich


all good...will review those other elements and keep clicking! Thanks


Apr 29, 2017 at 01:54 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · trying for the Dietrich


Shooting at night will eliminate Paul's element of side-highlights on the ball.


Apr 29, 2017 at 10:12 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · trying for the Dietrich


gschlact wrote:
Shooting at night will eliminate Paul's element of side-highlights on the ball.


Unfortunately, these games start at 7PM and I have merely mins before sunset and I can't focus solely on the pitcher during that time. Will have to wait for a day game before I can put more emphasis on that.




May 01, 2017 at 03:59 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · trying for the Dietrich


Having never shot baseball, I don't know what a Dietrich is . . .so I googled it and stumbled upon a 2007 story of an Allan Detrich from the Toledo Blade. . .interesting read.


May 01, 2017 at 04:19 PM
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mikekeating wrote:
Having never shot baseball, I don't know what a Dietrich is . . .so I googled it and stumbled upon a 2007 story of an Allan Detrich from the Toledo Blade. . .interesting read.

please share the link...would be nice to know the origins of the Dietrich.




May 01, 2017 at 04:22 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · trying for the Dietrich


I never found it. Still don't know what a Dietrich is in this context.

But here is the article on Allan Detrich (note the spelling) Detrich



May 01, 2017 at 04:32 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · trying for the Dietrich


mikekeating wrote:
I never found it. Still don't know what a Dietrich is in this context.

But here is the article on Allan Detrich (note the spelling) Detrich


I think Paul - that commented above - once gave the definitions/criteria here and has been discussed a myriad of times on this forum before. Thanks for the link.



May 01, 2017 at 04:35 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · trying for the Dietrich


Search Sports Corner for Dietrich. Many entertaining threads.
The Dietrich is named after that photography and now typically refers to the frozen, in-focus ball with the pitcher framing the ball in the background bokeh.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · trying for the Dietrich


found a post this past year - spectacular capture! https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1432251/0?keyword=Dietrich#13575921


May 03, 2017 at 06:27 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · trying for the Dietrich


Here is the refresher...

"Dietrich" is "Detrick"... named after Chris Detrick of the Salt Lake Tribune who posted this on SS back in 2005. If shooting a softball freeze its a "Lady Detrick" or "Dietrich" or "Marlena"...

I can't believe it has been 12 years, but here it is...
http://www.sportsshooter.com/news/1502

Here are some tips I posted a few years ago...
1) I really like it when there is no question of angle and that you are completely 100% in front of the pitcher and behind the catcher, so much so, that the ball is going to hit you right in the nose if you continue to look at it. On the one above, the perception is that the ball is going to leave the frame on the right. I don't ever want the perception that it's going to leave the frame. I want it to start in the frame, continue in the frame and never leave the frame as it comes right into your grill. Therefore, the ball has to be bullseyed and the pitcher has to be bullseyed. With the pitcher left justified and the ball to the right, it doesn't carry the same impact. The perception is that the ball is going across the frame and will eventually leave it. Here is a little test... draw a line that starts at the pitcher's mid-chest or head, through the middle of the ball, and continue the line until the line until it intersects with the bottom edge of the photo. Have you created a 90 degree angle between the line you have drawn and the bottom edge of the photo? If yes, you composition is bullseyed and you are good. If not, your composition is skewed and the ball is perceived to be leaving the frame. Just that little hiccup in perception can make or break the shot. Hope this makes sense.

2) Let the ball be the subject. Allow your composition to let the ball be the subject. Along with bullseying everything... You really want to underexpose so that the pitcher and that bright background is killed somewhat and the ball becomes the highlight of the frame.

3) Lighting is all important. The best time of the day is a late sun with its position about 3 o'clock in relation to the ball.

4) Finally, even though the ball is the subject, the liveliness of the pitcher in the follow through will compliment the ball. I like to see a high leg kick... something that allows the legs to frame the ball.

Some posts over the years from FMers, although many images are now missing...
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/761277/
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/897976/
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/533255/

And one from a few years ago...








May 04, 2017 at 12:59 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · trying for the Dietrich


Cool deal, thanks for the info. Reminds me of that line from Major League 2: "If you can hit it, I will let you name it"

That is a cool shot, BTW.



May 04, 2017 at 02:05 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · trying for the Dietrich


That is some great history on the subject - thanks for sharing it!

I tried again last night and I am convinced that it just can not be done on that field being that the press box prevents any access directly behind the home plate. I purposely crushed myself against the press box to see if the change in angle would have much effect but I really need to be literally behind the catcher I think or within the confines of the batters box.

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May 04, 2017 at 05:34 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · trying for the Dietrich


If there's something that never gets old, it's aspiring for the perfect Dietrich. My experience has been that trying to get all the variables to line up is like finding a unicorn stable (pitch velocity, access location, stadium location, time of day)
Frozen Ball Calcs by John Korduner, on Flickr


ETA. I believe it was Dietrich that popularized the setup on sports shooter bringing the idea to the masses, but he definitely didn't create the idea. There's a great frozen ball pic in Life Magazine from the 60's? I can't find it, but I remember the pitcher was wearing red, and think it was probably bob Gibson with St. Louis.

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May 05, 2017 at 12:22 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · trying for the Dietrich


Shot a few weeks ago with 1dx, 100-400, shifted the focus point left 2 over the batter. In LR I can easily see the wording on the ball.




May 05, 2017 at 01:04 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · trying for the Dietrich


ok...I think I'm getting closer. Next time I'll try switching from f/2.8 to f/4.








May 25, 2017 at 12:23 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · trying for the Dietrich


Getting there...


May 25, 2017 at 04:22 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · trying for the Dietrich


...and moving to the batter's right. Sadly there were 2 older women sitting directly behind the home plate at yesterday's game where I wanted to stoop.


May 25, 2017 at 04:23 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · trying for the Dietrich


It can be addicting.


May 25, 2017 at 10:57 PM
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