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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


I was wondering if the sony 55mm f1.8 was worth the extra money in comparison to the older zeiss contax lenses?


Apr 17, 2017 at 11:53 PM
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Jmonat7 wrote:
I was wondering if the sony 55mm f1.8 was worth the extra money in comparison to the older zeiss contax lenses?


Depends on what you want. I have ae and mm 1.4/50 contax lenses and love them but they have funky or pictorial bokeh. They are very sharp wo.

The fe 1.8/55 has unusually smooth bokeh which is its feature, or superpower. It's quite a special lens and worth every cent.



Apr 18, 2017 at 12:07 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


They are just completely different lenses. At one time, I had the 55/1.8, CY Zeiss 50/1.4, the Leitz Cron-R 50/2, Minolta MC Rokkor 50/1.4 PG, and the Minolta MC Rokkor 58/1.2 PG. All looked very different from each other.

Among any quality 50-ish lenses, there just aren't any bad options, just different looks.



Apr 18, 2017 at 01:02 AM
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JohnJ wrote:
Depends on what you want. I have ae and mm 1.4/50 contax lenses and love them but they have funky or pictorial bokeh. They are very sharp wo.

The fe 1.8/55 has unusually smooth bokeh which is its feature, or superpower. It's quite a special lens and worth every cent.


Thank you for the advice! I have the contax 50mm f1.7 and enjoy the color rendering but find that the bokeh is a bit too nervous and am trying to find something with smoother bokeh. The 55mm f1.8 is tempting but also comes at a premium. This is outside of the 50 range, but since you seem to enjoy contax lenses I was wondering if you have any experience with the 85mm f2.8 and how the bokeh is?



Apr 18, 2017 at 01:29 AM
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TheEmrys wrote:
They are just completely different lenses. At one time, I had the 55/1.8, CY Zeiss 50/1.4, the Leitz Cron-R 50/2, Minolta MC Rokkor 50/1.4 PG, and the Minolta MC Rokkor 58/1.2 PG. All looked very different from each other.

Among any quality 50-ish lenses, there just aren't any bad options, just different looks.



That is very true. The rokkor 50mm f1.4 is a very great lens by the way. It is one of my favorite 50mm lenses.



Apr 18, 2017 at 01:30 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


The 55mm f1.8 has really smooth bokeh for a 50mm lens. That combined with the very sharp edges and corners for 1.8 and the better than average flare performance make this lens a winner. Worth every penny imo


Apr 18, 2017 at 02:40 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


I had the 55/1.8 and sold it. It's high quality and very crisp, but as stated in many other threads, some find the rendering "sterile". I do; I didn't really care for its look compared to my other 50/55 lenses.

Also, if you like to use manual focus (as I do), it has the worst MF of any lens I've ever used, thanks to focus-by-wire. Endless back-and-forth, and I could never be quite sure whether I was hitting optimum focus. No such problem with any of my other lenses...



Apr 18, 2017 at 02:47 AM
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Jmonat7 wrote:
Thank you for the advice! I have the contax 50mm f1.7 and enjoy the color rendering but find that the bokeh is a bit too nervous and am trying to find something with smoother bokeh. The 55mm f1.8 is tempting but also comes at a premium. This is outside of the 50 range, but since you seem to enjoy contax lenses I was wondering if you have any experience with the 85mm f2.8 and how the bokeh is?


If you are looking for smoother bokeh behind the subject then the FE 1.8/55 will almost certainly suit your needs. I'm sure you've already researched the FE 1.8/55 so are probably aware that it is not a 'perfect' lens as it does have various faults (onion ring bokeh in specular OOF highlights and quite strong Longitudinal CA are probably the worst issues). IIRC I think it's not as sharp around the edges as some other lenses, but that's not something that matters much to me so I'm not sure if this is in fact the case. I'm sure that in certain respects the Contax 1.7/50 and 1.4/50 are 'better' lenses but as I said earlier it just depends on what you want.

I've never used the 2.8/85 so can't comment (although I did have the Contax 1.4/85 about 20 years ago).



Apr 18, 2017 at 02:49 AM
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I you enjoy the Contax 50 f:1.7, and are looking for "the same less the funky bokeh", the 55 f1.8 is not the place to go IMHO. The Contax, for all its weaknesses (it was an inexpensive lens in its time), offers a very "alive" rendering, alluring and with great colours, and "pop", whcih the Sony-Zeiss, for all its strong points, does not. The 55 is very clean in all aspects, but very clinical and, to my eyes at least, lifeless. I should know, because of the hoopla I bought one, couln't get shots I liked out of it, sold it, bought it again, thinking I must have had a bad copy, and sold it again. And for all of this, I have just one keeper! That said, many people love theirs to death, and the naysayers are probably in the (large) minority


Apr 18, 2017 at 04:42 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


I find the 55/1.8 quite amazing in terms of resolution and transition zone/background smoothness. It lacks local contrast but post-processing improves this shortcoming greatly.
LoCA can also be minimized in post. The bones are there: Resolution and smooth bokeh. However, this lens must be complemented by post-processing to get alive. I have many presets for it.
As someone mentioned, specular highlights are busy sometimes (onion rings) and that's not very easy to fix but it's a very common occurrence with aspherical lenses. (The FE 50/1.4 does better here though)

Actually, the FE 50/1.4 does better in many fronts. Cleaner inner disks, lower LoCA and high local contrast (micro-contrast). If you don't mind the weight, that's the Sony 50mm lens to get.
However, if weight is a main concern and you don't mind 'post-processing', the 55/1.8 is a killer lens.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


The Minolta MC Rokkor 55/1.7 might be as cheap as chips but it's a great all-round performer. Philip Reeve, in his comprehensive review compares it favorably to the FE 55/1.8, which costs 30 times as much. There are lots of sample photos in his review but Philip also used the Rokkor 55/1.7 exclusively for a month.


Apr 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


One of the bigger advantages for the FE 55/1.8 is that it's sharp from edge to edge at F1.8 so if you like shooting wide open alot the FE 55mm is hard to beat unless your looking at picking up something like the FE 50mm F1.4 or some of the other top modern 50mm lenses.


Apr 18, 2017 at 02:00 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


I like to use both the FE 55/1.8 and ZM 50/1.5 for portraits of my family. The ZM definitely has more character, but I can't fault the rendering of the FE in most cases. As it's sharper across the frame than the ZM, it makes it easier to position the subject's eyes off center, which is important for framing and composition sometimes. The background is smooth. The CA and lesser global contrast don't bother me much for this application. For landscapes, the FE is obviously the clear winner.

An example below. The eyes are in perfect focus and crisp in the original file. Some of the magic is lost as I did a quick edit on an iPad to generate the image, but the overall rendering still shows.







Apr 18, 2017 at 03:23 PM
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Jmonat7 wrote:
Thank you for the advice! I have the contax 50mm f1.7 and enjoy the color rendering but find that the bokeh is a bit too nervous and am trying to find something with smoother bokeh. The 55mm f1.8 is tempting but also comes at a premium. This is outside of the 50 range, but since you seem to enjoy contax lenses I was wondering if you have any experience with the 85mm f2.8 and how the bokeh is?

P50/1.4 b/g bokeh is even more nervous than the P50/1.7. In certain conditions (w/o, subject close, detailed b/g), I find the rendered image downright nasty. CZ Planars 50 in C/Y mount have high resolution, contrast and saturation in a small package. Planar bokeh cleans up when stopped down, but cannot compete with the sibling Sonnars. If you want smooth blur at any setting, try the S85 or S100: both are small and work beautifully on Alpha 7.



Apr 19, 2017 at 12:33 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


My 2 cents, I've tried both Contax Planars and have the FE 55 now. I preferred the rendering of the 50/1.7 to the 1.4 and I'm not alone. The 1.4 has much more SA wide open which maybe some like but some hate. The FE definitely has smoother bokeh. The C/Y 1.7 was a bit funky but I kind of liked it too. Both give great seperation, I don't find the FE clinical, but the C/Y has more personality. That said if you like the 50/1.7 I think you would like the 55/1.8. You trade some color and contrast for better sharpness and bokeh... But you get more sharpness and bokeh then you lose in color and contrast.


Apr 19, 2017 at 01:38 PM
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Jmonat7 wrote:
I was wondering if the sony 55mm f1.8 was worth the extra money in comparison to the older zeiss contax lenses?

I really like my 55mm and even though I'm a speed freak, I kept the 55mm instead of going with the 50mm because at 1.8 is sharp across the frame which is important for me as I use it for environmental portraits where my subject is not dead center.
It really has nice pop to it's colors as well and as far as that "sterile" rendering, please do not pre judge the lens based on those comments. The lens had great rendering and to me that sterile comment is one of those weird descriptions someone said then it keeps getting repeated over and over in opinion.
Good luck



Apr 19, 2017 at 01:39 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


Thank you everyone for the advice it is very much appreciated! I am going to look into it more, as I think I can make a compromise in terms of bokeh for the character of the planar lenses, I am going to give the loxia 50 I try if I can find one as I really enjoy prominent sunstars for my cityscapes and think it would be a nice step up from my C/Y 1.7.


Apr 19, 2017 at 06:42 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


Jmonat7 wrote:
Thank you everyone for the advice it is very much appreciated! I am going to look into it more, as I think I can make a compromise in terms of bokeh for the character of the planar lenses, I am going to give the loxia 50 I try if I can find one as I really enjoy prominent sunstars for my cityscapes and think it would be a nice step up from my C/Y 1.7.


I replaced my 55/1.8 with a Loxia 50 and love it. The whole Loxia line is a marvel; I have all 4 of them now, and look forward to more, hopefully a 28 sometime soon.



Apr 19, 2017 at 07:43 PM
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DannyBurkPhoto wrote:
I replaced my 55/1.8 with a Loxia 50 and love it. The whole Loxia line is a marvel; I have all 4 of them now, and look forward to more, hopefully a 28 sometime soon.


That's good to hear! A 28 would be the perfect companion to the 50 in my opinion, but at the moment I am very happy with my c/y distagon 28. The loxia lenses seem to render with that classic zeiss character that the c/y lenses do, just with better coating and sunstars among other things.



Apr 19, 2017 at 07:53 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Sony 55mm f1.8 vs. Zeiss Contax 50mm f1.4 or 1.7


Depends on what you use the lenses for. For a portrait application, or near WO shooting the contax 50 1.7 isn't that great. For superb contax colors, more 3d, excellent resolution across frame when stopped down, compact size, cheaper price and more pleasant focusing experience get the Contax. For better bokeh, better optical correction, more transparent files and AF, get the FE 55.

Or, get the Contax 50 1.7 and Minolta 58 1.2 for the price of a FE 55--that's what I ended up doing.



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