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Bespoked wrote:
OIS doesn't really work in conjunction with IBIS for increased stabilisation, I've tested it countless times and it seems IBIS negates the in-lens stabilisation.


I'm not sure what "tests" you've done or what camera / lens combo you have, but Brian Smith (who I'm going to guess has some decent knowledge on Sony cameras/lenses) reports that the camera and lens will work together:
http://briansmith.com/sony-a7ii-hands-on-review/



Mar 12, 2017 at 03:59 PM
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I already ordered this lens. I'm looking for one thing AF speed. Going to be more my studio lens. I'll get a look lens in 135 to replace my GM. I might even buy back the 50 1.4 FE. I'm sad I sold my GM 85 as I loved it but the stop down focusing and AF speed was hurting me


Mar 12, 2017 at 04:17 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I already ordered this lens. I'm looking for one thing AF speed. Going to be more my studio lens. I'll get a look lens in 135 to replace my GM. I might even buy back the 50 1.4 FE. I'm sad I sold my GM 85 as I loved it but the stop down focusing and AF speed was hurting me


At what f/stop on the 85GM did you find that it became an issue to focus reasonably quickly?
I've never used the lens stopped down beyond f/2 except for a rare cityscape in sunlight, but I know what you mean with the hunting.

So many great choices now - the 50/1.4 is fantastic; curious to see if the Batis 135 suffers similar swirly/cat's eye bokeh as their 85.


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Mar 12, 2017 at 05:11 PM
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The 85mm GM is more intended for available light shooting and not for studio. The excellent wide open or close to wide open performance of that lens will get lost for studio purposes, IMHO. I love that lens for what it is designed to be used and as such, I don't think I have ever shot it at aperture of smaller than f/4. My most common aperture range is between wide open and f/2 and occasionally I stop it down to f/2.8. As such, I don't recall encountering any hesitation in the AF performance.


Mar 12, 2017 at 05:19 PM
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At those F stop speeds of 2.8 and higher not really a issue. Working at F8 in studio with moving model was not cutting the cheese. I agree with Joshua its a outside type lens or available light. Great lens love it but I got money on the line so i need that AF speed that this new lens may give me. Batis 85 i just hate the manual focus. This is where this issue is I'm stopped down and i got a moving model. It does not always keep up. This is a catalog shoot so background gets wiped out




  ILCE-7RM2    Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM (SEL85F14GM) lens    85mm    f/8.0    1/200s    160 ISO    0.0 EV  




Mar 12, 2017 at 05:29 PM
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Here she is moving to get the dress in motion. Its a touch soft




  ILCE-7RM2    Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM (SEL85F14GM) lens    85mm    f/8.0    1/200s    160 ISO    0.0 EV  




Mar 12, 2017 at 05:59 PM
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This is a Tuxedo and Choir clothing distributer that does a huge catalog every year. Its a two day shoot for me with about 6 models in total. Its a very clean make the cloths look awesome type of shoot.


Mar 12, 2017 at 06:01 PM
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ecarlino wrote:
I'm not sure what "tests" you've done or what camera / lens combo you have, but Brian Smith (who I'm going to guess has some decent knowledge on Sony cameras/lenses) reports that the camera and lens will work together:
http://briansmith.com/sony-a7ii-hands-on-review/


Not sure what he has done (or who he is) and haven't read the article, but can confirm that having OIS + IBIS as opposed to simply IBIS only doesn't improve stabilisation as per my thorough, but admittedly non expert tests.

When I spoke to Sony, they themselves told me that the OIS disables 2 axis (I think, this was some time ago) of the IBIS system, they work in conjunction with each other, but IBIS isn't fully functional when an OIS enabled lens is attached, bolstering my opinion on the back of my results.

I could be wrong, but I've thoroughly tested this and spoken to a Sony tech about it.
It's one of the reasons I have the 85GM instead of the Batis, it was one less point of difference for the Zeiss.



Mar 13, 2017 at 01:07 AM
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Bespoked wrote:
Not sure what he has done (or who he is) and haven't read the article, but can confirm that having OIS + IBIS as opposed to simply IBIS only doesn't improve stabilisation as per my thorough, but admittedly non expert tests.

When I spoke to Sony, they themselves told me that the OIS disables 2 axis (I think, this was some time ago) of the IBIS system, they work in conjunction with each other, but IBIS isn't fully functional when an OIS enabled lens is attached, bolstering my opinion on the back of my results.

I could be wrong, but I've thoroughly
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My understanding is that OIS will become more relevant on longer focal lengths. The IBIS mechanism only has so much travel, and apparently longer lens shake can exceed its limits. Whereas OIS can be designed for the specific lens and the amount of shake/travel required. But I don't believe IBIS limits are an issue at 85 or 135mm. Maybe at 200-400mm.



Mar 13, 2017 at 07:55 AM
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Yes, perhaps, but here we're talking about the two 85mm lenses I tested and how OIS didn't help stabilise the one with it anymore than the other lens using IBIS, which was my point exactly, OIS doesn't help the Batis 85 achieve more stabilisation than an 85GM, so, on any body with IBIS that particular function isn't a point of difference.


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I shot the 85GM before first light today, stopped down to f5.6 without issues, not sure what is going on. Yes it focuses slower than some other lenses, but so do my big glass lenses from other manufactures.



Focus was on the white tower using large flexible point, no re-compose.



Mar 13, 2017 at 10:52 AM
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Bespoked wrote:
I shot the 85GM before first light today, stopped down to f5.6 without issues, not sure what is going on. Yes it focuses slower than some other lenses, but so do my big glass lenses from other manufactures.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3848/32571492034_ee6d30d2d6_b.jpg

Focus was on the white tower using large flexible point, no re-compose.


is it possible your lens and/or sensor need some cleaning?



Mar 13, 2017 at 04:04 PM
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Bespoked wrote:
but can confirm that having OIS + IBIS as opposed to simply IBIS only doesn't improve stabilisation as per my thorough, but admittedly non expert tests.

When I spoke to Sony, they themselves told me that the OIS disables 2 axis (I think, this was some time ago) of the IBIS system, they work in conjunction with each other, but IBIS isn't fully functional when an OIS enabled lens is attached, bolstering my opinion on the back of my results.



my understanding is that when the lens has it, the 2 axis that are implemented in the lens are turned off in the camera b/c the lens does a better job than the camera can for those 2 axis.



Mar 13, 2017 at 04:06 PM
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Yep, looks like oil on the sensor glass or smears on the lens.
Not an image for a client, just something I made early morning for fun.

That's one downside with mirror-less imo, the sensor gets dirty much quicker.
It must be because there's less to hinder debris, oil and moisture from getting to the sensor when changing lenses.



Mar 14, 2017 at 02:40 AM
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Reading here that the lens focuses wide open instead of at shooting aperture is a REAL plus for me, as 99.9% of my shooting is seascapes in bright sun, stopped down to f11 or f13 for depth of field. Back when I had my A7R (I also use a Nikon D800e), focusing out doors with the 35mm f2.8 and 55mm f1.8 was a real issue. I am left eyed, and had to use one hand to shield the eyepiece in order to see the focusing image. It was areal issue, to the point I ended up using the Nikon more often, as it always focuses wide open. I tried everything: "SHOOTING EFFECTS" ON and OFF. The A7RII focuses wide open with those lenses, and also the wonderful 16- 35mm FE lens. I am an amateur, but do serious photography (to me anyway). I now use an over-sized eyecup, and wide open focusing, and all is well. Back when I was having problems, Guy was a big help here giving me advice. This is a great site. Thank you all.
Dave in NJ
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Mar 15, 2017 at 08:27 PM
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Seems like a great lens for the money, definitely going to be interesting seeing it back to back with the Batis.

The 85GM is sharper wide open than this is and the GM will likely have better bokeh, so I guess you have to weigh what will work best for your style of shooting and your budget.



Mar 17, 2017 at 07:39 AM
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Already owning the Batis 85, I was curious if I could trade the batis for this lens and release some cash. Seems not that much, in fact a quote from a company i've used a ton (and normally give rates comparable to ebay sales minus the crazy fees) quoted a price for the batis which barely coveres the new price of the sony 85.

I guess i'll stick with the Batis for a while, not such a hardship though



Mar 17, 2017 at 08:16 AM
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Hi folks,

I have already mentioned it in the FE images thread, but this seems to be the right place for that information.

I have just received the Sony FE 1.8/85 and started my rolling review: https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-sony-fe-85-mm-1-8/

First examinations:

- Build quality feels solid and appropriate
- Size-wise, it's a perfect match for the A7, very well balanced
- AF is fast, reliable and quiet
- Very sharp wide open at distances from headshot to infinity. Seems to be a little softer at close focusing distances.
- Moderate LoCA, but purple fringing at contrast edges, also in the middle and especially in the sharp area.
- Bokeh has got some structure, not bad but nothing to rave about so far
- No Distortion at all, have to double check that without electronic contact.
- Intense flaring and ghosting with the sun in the frame

So far, it matches it's price point very well. Sharpness is really good, the flare performance could be limiting for landscape work.

Further examinations coming soon..

Jannik

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Mar 17, 2017 at 09:49 AM
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Thanks Jannik!


Mar 17, 2017 at 10:12 AM
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Jannik Peters wrote:
Hi folks,

I have already mentioned it in the FE images thread, but this seems to be the right place for that information.

I have just received the Sony FE 1.8/85 and started my rolling review: https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-sony-fe-85-mm-1-8/

First examinations:

- Build quality feels solid and appropriate
- Size-wise, it's a perfect match for the A7, very well balanced
- AF is fast, reliable and quiet
- Very sharp wide open at distances from headshot to infinity. Seems to be a little softer at close focusing distances.
- Moderate LoCA, but purple fringing at contrast edges, also in the middle and especially in the sharp area.
- Bokeh has
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Great write-up Jannik!!
I will be checking your rolling review as it progresses.

So far, it seems the advantages of the Batis is better flare control and lower LoCA. The disadvantages are more distortion and higher price.
Bokeh seems to be a wash from the examples I've seen. Same swirl and structured OOF area. (That's the biggest GM advantage)

How does AF speed compares to the Batis?



Mar 17, 2017 at 02:30 PM
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