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p.9 #1 · p.9 #1 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development


for me a 40 is a typical street or a discrete portrait lens with environment.
therefore it should a pancake and no lightmonster.

What a pity that they did not not pimp there existing 40mm 1.4 or 40mm 2.0.




Mar 14, 2017 at 11:48 AM
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rsrsrs wrote:
for me a 40 is a typical street or a discrete portrait lens with environment.
therefore it should a pancake and no lightmonster.

What a pity that they did not not pimp there existing 40mm 1.4 or 40mm 2.0.



Hmm the existing 1.4/40 would need t pimped out of existence to be other than a ,character' lens.....

And the 2/40 is designed for a mirror box, so no design based on it makes s sense on mirrorless.

So they had to design from scratch. Whether f1.2 was a good idea will depend on whether the f1.2 performance is decent, and if not much price is paid for that in stopped down performance. If both of those things I'm happy with f1.2 and a bit of extra bulk, though I can totally see why some would prefer smaller and f2 (It's usually me that's arguing for smaller slower and better!)



Mar 14, 2017 at 12:22 PM
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p.9 #3 · p.9 #3 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development


Juha Kannisto wrote:
Yeah, all the shots so far were from CP+ where Cosina had some samples for trials, but that ended on 2/26.


Yes, but wouldn't there have been lots and lots of people trying them on their own cameras, and then put up samples on the internet? That's what usually happens, but this time there seem to have been like ~3 people and non of them shot anything that really could tell much about the lenses.



Mar 14, 2017 at 05:37 PM
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p.9 #4 · p.9 #4 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development


I'm most intrigued by the 40/1.4 but not only for it's wide open performance but stopped down for landscapes.


Mar 14, 2017 at 05:57 PM
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rji2goleez wrote:
I'm most intrigued by the 40/1.4 but not only for it's wide open performance but stopped down for landscapes.


+1

Needs to be decent wide open, but excellent by f/2.8 or so and it would be a keeper for me.



Mar 14, 2017 at 10:22 PM
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Makten wrote:
Yes, but wouldn't there have been lots and lots of people trying them on their own cameras, and then put up samples on the internet? That's what usually happens, but this time there seem to have been like ~3 people and non of them shot anything that really could tell much about the lenses.


The lenses were only available for testing at Cosina Voigtländer area's counter at CP+ and couldn't be taken away more than a few meters, and there wasn't much to shoot there, so that's why nobody could really take very representative samples. And I think since the show was in Yokohama Japan, most general visitors were Japanese and would only post something in Japanese media and social media sites right at the time of CP+, not so much in international Camera forums...

If you Google search for reports in Japanese e.g. by using Voigtländer name written in Japanese with some CP+ related keywords, you could see more hits from Japanese media / social media:
フォクトレンダー CP+ 2017
https://www.google.co.jp/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%82%AF%E3%83%88%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC+CP%2B+2017&*



Mar 15, 2017 at 05:25 AM
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Any news?


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p.9 #8 · p.9 #8 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development


Steve Huff posted some thoughts on a pre-production 65mm today, optics should be final according to him but the cosmetics are still subject to change so no photos of the lens.

Not surprisingly, it looks sharp and CA is really well controlled (non-existent?). A lens I would really like to try.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2017/05/01/a-first-look-at-the-voigtlander-65mm-f2-macro-prototype-for-sony-e-mount/



May 02, 2017 at 02:00 AM
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I guess that 65mm is probably coming out first. I keep an eye on Cosina's Japanese website but there have been no release dates or other announcements yet on these new lenses after CP+. Since they said in an interview that they are trying to release 65mm and 40mm within 2017, I guess it might still take some months, but Steve Huff's field test indicates that 65mm might not be very far off... I might be getting both of them but need to fund an A9 first.


May 02, 2017 at 06:19 AM
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p.9 #10 · p.9 #10 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development


That 35/1.4 doesn't seem to have as the same ergonomics as the 35/1.4 M VC. They don't seem as nice.

I think it's a great option to have the other lenses, but I'm too well adjusted to 35mm to consider 40mm anymore. Maybe 7 years ago, I would have gone for it.



May 02, 2017 at 09:31 AM
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p.9 #11 · p.9 #11 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development


ricardovaste wrote:
That 35/1.4 doesn't seem to have as the same ergonomics as the 35/1.4 M VC. They don't seem as nice.


Definitely a matter of taste. The new E mount 40/1.2 and 35/1.4 lenses both have superior ergonomics compared to the VM 35/1.4 or VM 40/1.4, at least for me. I'll always take a focus ring where my fingers can get comfortable over a focus tab. It's kind of necessary given the size of the VM 35/1.4 and VM 40/1.4, but I found the 40/1.4 to be a pain to use compared to something with a real focus ring, like a Canon 50/1.4 LTM which has almost perfect ergonomics for me.

That said, I wouldn't mind of the aperture rings of these new E mount lenses had wings. It wouldn't be pretty but it'd improve the ergonomics. The aperture ring seems a bit too flush with the focus ring, might be hard to find by touch without wings or at least some space between the focus ring and the aperture ring.



May 02, 2017 at 03:54 PM
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arduluth wrote:
Definitely a matter of taste. The new E mount 40/1.2 and 35/1.4 lenses both have superior ergonomics compared to the VM 35/1.4 or VM 40/1.4, at least for me. I'll always take a focus ring where my fingers can get comfortable over a focus tab. It's kind of necessary given the size of the VM 35/1.4 and VM 40/1.4, but I found the 40/1.4 to be a pain to use compared to something with a real focus ring, like a Canon 50/1.4 LTM which has almost perfect ergonomics for me.

That said, I wouldn't mind of the aperture rings of
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Ah yes, that is true on the focusing ring. It didn't actually occur to me, I was mostly just looking at how similar the aperture ring was (and small), and how it would be easy to get them mixed up when keeping your eye on the finder.

Saying that, I can see why a larger focusing ring would be useful for a non RF camera too. I actually prefer a nub for RF lens in this range, but it's not for everyone. I imagine the throw would be much greater on this newer lens too, which would make a nub ridiculous.



May 03, 2017 at 11:17 AM
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p.9 #13 · p.9 #13 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development


What will the e-mount Voigtlander NOKTON 40mm f/1.2 go for $$$ ?


May 04, 2017 at 01:41 AM
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p.9 #14 · p.9 #14 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development


In this Japanese DC Watch CP+ event report they interviewed some Cosina people about the new lenses and there was a price estimate of "below 150 000 JPY" for the 40/1.2 as well as 65/2. I quess that would be the MRSP. The MRSP of 10/5.6 for E-mount is 155 000 JPY, so I guess they would be priced close to that one. Street price for the 10mm was around 133k yen (including tax) when it was released.

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/eventreport/1046053.html



May 04, 2017 at 03:56 AM
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