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Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?
  
 
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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


An early review of the Olympus 150/2 lens noted some focusing variability http://www.lenstip.com/188.10-Lens_review-Olympus_Zuiko_Digital_150_mm_f_2_Autofocus.html.
However when C-AF Silent low focus is spot on, that lens on E-M1.2 can deliver convincing results IMHO. In my experience S-AF Silent low delivers more consistently in focus results.





E-M1.2 + 150/2.0 SHG @ f/2.8, C-AF Silent low, handheld.

K-H.


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Feb 21, 2017 at 02:34 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


A question for all of you: Do you use lenses like the Panny 100-400 and Oly 300/4 handheld?


Mar 04, 2017 at 10:18 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


Handheld: Only 300/4 Pro, little tuna 150/2.0 SHG
Tripod: Big tuna 300/2.8 SHG

I don't have the Panny 100-400.

K-H.



Mar 04, 2017 at 10:45 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


I agree, I use SAF plus MF unless it's a fast moving subject.


Mar 04, 2017 at 10:59 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


Also, I use Silent Shutter most of the time, unless it's for hummingbirds.


Mar 05, 2017 at 12:20 AM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


Bobg657 wrote:
Also, I use Silent Shutter most of the time, unless it's for hummingbirds.


Thanks. Why the exception for hummingbirds? Have you actually observed the rolling shutter effect? TIA.



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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


I have, also where you have buildings in the background and you're panning they distort.


Mar 05, 2017 at 01:59 AM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


bjornthun wrote:
A question for all of you: Do you use lenses like the Panny 100-400 and Oly 300/4 handheld?


I use the PL 100-400 a lot on both E-M1 mk1 and mk2 bodies and always handheld with the lens OIS set to on and the camera set to lens OIS priority. As I am mostly after birds (the little monsters) my shutter speed is usually high and I use currently C-AF with low speed + silent shutter and with C-AF set to focus priority, 9 point focus grid.

I have been doing pretty well with mk2 except with birds near water, the 9 point grid does not seem to prioritise the middle square and the water seems much more interesting to the camera than the birds

I am going to play with the C-AF lock setting but of course the weather changed and I am waiting it out.

Jeff



Mar 05, 2017 at 05:39 AM
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k-h.a.w wrote:
Handheld: Only 300/4 Pro, little tuna 150/2.0 SHG
Tripod: Big tuna 300/2.8 SHG

I don't have the Panny 100-400.

K-H.

Thanks, this helps me. I'm considering m43 for long glass. The Sigma 150-600 Contemporary becomes too unwieldy for handholding on Sony mirrorless. AF isn't that great either.

Love those names," big tuna" and "little tuna" for the big lenses.

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jeffp3456 wrote:
I use the PL 100-400 a lot on both E-M1 mk1 and mk2 bodies and always handheld with the lens OIS set to on and the camera set to lens OIS priority. As I am mostly after birds (the little monsters) my shutter speed is usually high and I use currently C-AF with low speed + silent shutter and with C-AF set to focus priority, 9 point focus grid.

I have been doing pretty well with mk2 except with birds near water, the 9 point grid does not seem to prioritise the middle square and the water seems much more interesting
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Thanks, what I like about the Sigma 150-600 is the flexibility of a zoom, but the Sigma is big, really a big "tunafish", and the max aperture is about the same as the PanaLeica 100-400, so that shouldn't be a problem either.

The possibilty of going handheld, at leadt in bright light is a big plus for both the Oly 300/4 and Pana 100-400, when compared to my current Sigma 150-600 solution. I'll continue to check out threads here and look at images with those lenses.



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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


I rented both the Pana 100-400 and the Oly 300/4 when looking for a birding lens for my OM-D EM-1 M1. Both were great, but in the end the Oly won out. I did use both hand held, and find that option a big advantage over my Canon 500/f4 setup.



Jul 09, 2017 at 05:40 AM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


jstephens62 wrote:
I rented both the Pana 100-400 and the Oly 300/4 when looking for a birding lens for my OM-D EM-1 M1. Both were great, but in the end the Oly won out. I did use both hand held, and find that option a big advantage over my Canon 500/f4 setup.



The OM-D EM-1 M2 does the same as the OM-D EM-1 M1 - but without focus hunting.
I find that alone worth having the OM-D EM-1 M2.

K-H.



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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


KH, a few thoughts on your questions:

-I use Silent Low almost exclusively unless it's a hummer or panning with buildings in the background, as those situations will likely show rolling shutter effects.
-When using Panny lenses with an Oly body, the lens switch controls IS on/off, I think there's a menu setting controlling which to use.



Jul 09, 2017 at 06:28 PM
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Bobg657 wrote:
KH, a few thoughts on your questions:

-I use Silent Low almost exclusively unless it's a hummer or panning with buildings in the background, as those situations will likely show rolling shutter effects.

-When using Panny lenses with an Oly body, the lens switch controls IS on/off, I think there's a menu setting controlling which to use.



Thanks Bob.

After having shot tens of thousands of hummingbird in flight (HIF) images with both the Olympus E-M1II and the Sony ILCE-9 I have seen too many images severely affected by the rolling silent shutter effects of the E-M1II. However that's not the case for the silent shutter of the ILCE-9. So I agree with your first statement for the E-M1II.

With regards to your second point, in the E-M1II Menu C2 I can leave Image Stabilizer set to S-IS 1 and Lens I.S. Priority set to On and then mechanically select OFF for the POWER O.I.S switch on the PL Nocticron 42.5/1.2 lens.

That would result in only the camera IBIS to be active, right?
Then I don't have to fiddle with the Menu settings when next mounting the 300/4 PRO lens.

K-H.



Jul 09, 2017 at 10:38 PM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


I'm not certain about the second point, my understanding is the switch overrides everything else so it would be interesting to verify IBIS is working.


Jul 09, 2017 at 10:58 PM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


Bobg657 wrote:
I'm not certain about the second point, my understanding is the switch overrides everything else so it would be interesting to verify IBIS is working.


IBIS seems to work fine with the Nocticron.



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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


I guess that answers that question! Thanks for the info.
Bob



Jul 09, 2017 at 11:18 PM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Which shutter is best for E-M1.2 and 300/4 Pro for birding?


Bobg657 wrote:
I guess that answers that question! Thanks for the info.
Bob


Thanks Bob.

Of course when you mount the 300/4 PRO on the E-M1II with the above mentioned settings, setting the IS switch on the lens to OFF disables all image stabilization.

K-H.



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